DUST Search - How well do you think the Pilot suit will fair in infantry combat?

Blind Nojoy wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

I imagine the Pilot suits will have less speed than scouts, less stamina, higher profile, lower HP, no light weapon slot, only one equipment module (1.8 scouts have two) and only zero to two modules.

Still a better Assault than the Minmatar Assault.

Anybody else plan to run Pilot suits on the ground, without a vehicle?

I would imagine it would have next-to-no HP, no module slots, and only allow a sidearm to be fit.

Its utility would likely come from specialized equipment, or just from bonuses.

This. A pilot that ejects over enemy territory is in some deep sh*t. You have a 9mm pistol, 2 magazines, a knife, flares and smoke, a radio, a Capri sun worth of water, and 5 lbs of whatever stuff you want to bring with you (and can fit).

The suit is going to be what connects you to your vehicle. Basically a harness that connects you to the cockpit so you stay in there securely.

The pilot suit should definitely be restricted to sidearm only. Pistol really since you can't fit anything bigger than that in a cockpit, but some racial sidearms are SMGs so I guess SMGs will have to be allowed. As someone pointed out, the vehicle IS your weapon.

You shouldn't get any modules...they are all now burning in the smoking hole that was formerly your weapon. If there's any benefit, the scan profile should be low, so you can do what downed pilots do: evade and hope for rescue, or work your way back to friendly territory.

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Billi Gene 514	Posted - 2014.03.10 09:16:00 - [31] - Quote Blind Nojoy wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I imagine the Pilot suits will have less speed than scouts, less stamina, higher profile, lower HP, no light weapon slot, only one equipment module (1.8 scouts have two) and only zero to two modules. Still a better Assault than the Minmatar Assault. Anybody else plan to run Pilot suits on the ground, without a vehicle? I would imagine it would have next-to-no HP, no module slots, and only allow a sidearm to be fit. Its utility would likely come from specialized equipment, or just from bonuses. This. A pilot that ejects over enemy territory is in some deep sh*t. You have a 9mm pistol, 2 magazines, a knife, flares and smoke, a radio, a Capri sun worth of water, and 5 lbs of whatever stuff you want to bring with you (and can fit). The suit is going to be what connects you to your vehicle. Basically a harness that connects you to the cockpit so you stay in there securely. The pilot suit should definitely be restricted to sidearm only. Pistol really since you can't fit anything bigger than that in a cockpit, but some racial sidearms are SMGs so I guess SMGs will have to be allowed. As someone pointed out, the vehicle IS your weapon. You shouldn't get any modules...they are all now burning in the smoking hole that was formerly your weapon. If there's any benefit, the scan profile should be low, so you can do what downed pilots do: evade and hope for rescue, or work your way back to friendly territory. in a land of nano-circuitry, artificial intelligence and field technology (shields)... why wouldn't a pilot have optimised subroutines built into their suit? I'm all over the idea of vehicle modules for drop suits!.....make them inefficient and aimed towards stuff like 5% turn speed bonus!!! or 1% bonus to spool time or 10% of damage done to passengers gets directed at the vehicle... stuff that is marginal but allows for vehicle users to ..... use vehicles..... you catch a pilot out of water they are toast...fair enough.... also there was a thread on reducing vehicle module and turret effectiveness to the tune of what ever teh pilot suits bonuses are... take it further so that racial suits only buff racial systems.... Pedant, Ape, Troll. My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 926	Posted - 2014.03.10 10:07:00 - [32] - Quote If its purple I will wear it 24/7 "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 308	Posted - 2014.03.10 10:22:00 - [33] - Quote I still say Pilot Suits are completely unnecessary. Everything that vehicles users want can/should be achieved through Skill, just like Dropsuits. The extra bonuses that they want should be attached to the specialty variants of the vehicles, just like Dropsuits. Why try to shoehorn in a different system for vehicles, when the one we have works just fine?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2894	Posted - 2014.03.10 10:24:00 - [34] - Quote It wont Be lucky to get a SMG to put on it, mod wise or equipment wise it will be for vehicle mods mainly and useless for on the ground Intelligence is OP
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 672	Posted - 2014.03.10 10:54:00 - [35] - Quote Blind Nojoy wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I imagine the Pilot suits will have less speed than scouts, less stamina, higher profile, lower HP, no light weapon slot, only one equipment module (1.8 scouts have two) and only zero to two modules. Still a better Assault than the Minmatar Assault. Anybody else plan to run Pilot suits on the ground, without a vehicle? I would imagine it would have next-to-no HP, no module slots, and only allow a sidearm to be fit. Its utility would likely come from specialized equipment, or just from bonuses. This. A pilot that ejects over enemy territory is in some deep sht. You have a 9mm pistol, 2 magazines, a knife, flares and smoke, a radio, a Capri sun worth of water, and 5 lbs of whatever stuff you want to bring with you (and can fit). The suit is going to be what connects you to your vehicle. Basically a harness that connects you to the cockpit so you stay in there securely. The pilot suit should definitely be restricted to sidearm only. Pistol really since you can't fit anything bigger than that in a cockpit, but some racial sidearms are SMGs so I guess SMGs will have to be allowed. As someone pointed out, the vehicle IS your weapon. You shouldn't get any modules...they are all now burning in the smoking hole that was formerly your weapon. If there's any benefit, the scan profile should be low, so you can do what downed pilots do: evade and hope for rescue, or work your way back to friendly territory. So you're saying that a Pilot suit will give a vehicle absolutely massive buffs? Like up 30% from what they currently have? The lower the buffs from such a suit to the vehicle, the higher the combat potential will be. And inversely, absolute *** combat means massive vehicle buffing. High combat --weaker vehicle Low combat -- strong vehicle. Of course knowing CCP, the pilot suit is going to be next in line to the Capsuleer suit, so it might get out of hand if implemented... If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3013	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:08:00 - [36] - Quote Pilot suits would either make balanced vehicles OP, or be another SP and ISK sink required to have a balanced vehicle. Either way it's a bad idea.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4757	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:16:00 - [37] - Quote Hagintora wrote: I still say Pilot Suits are completely unnecessary. Everything that vehicles users want can/should be achieved through Skill, just like Dropsuits. The extra bonuses that they want should be attached to the specialty variants of the vehicles, just like Dropsuits. Why try to shoehorn in a different system for vehicles, when the one we have works just fine? You think the one we have now works just fine? I've been getting the impression that people on both sides of the fence are taking issue with it. Honestly, I still don't understand why CCP is so averse to Capacitors for vehicles. Instead of this duration/cooldown junk and triple-hardener fits and what-have-you, we could have a system whereby vehicle modules are limited only by the capacitor amount and recharge rate of the vehicle, and then give infantry means of neutralizing that energy to temporarily disable a vehicle's active modules. Right now a triple-hardener vehicle is nearly impossible to kill, and the new passive armor repairers can be buffed up with high skill levels to repair up to around 560 hp per second. As a dedicated vehicle user, I think a system of capacitors and EWAR to neutralize them would provide far better balance than what we have right now. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 252	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:45:00 - [38] - Quote Impact absorbing inertial fields...ie, no crash damage. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2894	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:46:00 - [39] - Quote Skihids wrote: Pilot suits would either make balanced vehicles OP, or be another SP and ISK sink required to have a balanced vehicle. Either way it's a bad idea. I want my pilot suit I dont want to be in my vehicle with a scout suit Its alright for you You can get a suit which helps increase your weapons damage, or equipment perform better or even take less dmg from the enemy Intelligence is OP
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3156	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:50:00 - [40] - Quote People saying that pilots shouldn't be required to train into their suit to get today's vehicle performance is ridiculous. That's like saying a Logistics should just train assault but get logi bonuses when wearing a logi suit. // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana

Ripley Riley 950	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:52:00 - [41] - Quote Pilot suits will probably have the same base stats as a scout suits, but only pack a sidearm and will not carry equipment. That would be my guess. Out of a vehicle it would barely be able to defend itself, but with the dropsuit skill bonuses, in a vehicle it provides several passive bonuses. Pilot suit release date: Q4 2015. Maybe. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4542	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:59:00 - [42] - Quote All I know is this suit will be my main infantry suit come 1.9. Hopefully. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 153	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:07:00 - [43] - Quote Pilots should be able to hijack enemy vehicles.... This game need more vehicles! dangCCPyou'reslowpickupthepace
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 313	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:16:00 - [44] - Quote Well when i get in a pilot suit i will be able to defend myself somewhat. I have prof 4 scramblers they have to deal with while i get in my vehicle. But yeah, ittl actually be kinda neat in my opinion to see what pilots bring to the table Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1001	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:30:00 - [45] - Quote I think that the pilot suit will be far less actual combat oriented than even the scout, and have bonuses to the vehicles used. Hopefully when we actually get pilot suits, we will have all the racial vehicles and the racial suit can give bonuses to its racial vehicle. For example, I can see the Min HAV being a slightly smaller tank, with less EHP, a good mix of module slots, faster than the other tanks, and an auto cannon or a mortar. So the pilot suits bonuses could increase range on the auto cannon and mortar, and maybe their blanket bonus across all races could give a faster cool down rate to active modules. Still kind of hoping that the Min HAV will be nothing more than a stolen Cal LAV with a large rail turret duct taped to the top of it. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 545	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:32:00 - [46] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: I plan on picking them up when and if MTAC's are released. Don't you mean you plan on picking them up if Pilot suits are released? DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
martinofski Quebec United 327	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:42:00 - [47] - Quote I hope the pilot suit will have a white pilot cap built-in with the helmet.


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