DUST Search - The 1.8 Assault Suit pt2: The Reckoning

Heimdallr69 wrote:

Connection Failure wrote:

Heimdallr69 wrote:

You people should learn before talking **** too anyone, any relevant player knows me which means you're irrelevant not me...
"GG was very EZ"

Wow, waggle that e-peen a little more there big guy. Seriously, who the hell do you think you are? You were in AE for a while...BFD, You were a loser neck beard back then when you thought that being good at a video game actually meant something in real life, and your a loser still with this last post.
Posting your corp history....wow, am I supposed to be impressed? QFT scrub, nobody cares.
Did you get kicked out of AE because you're such an absolute ass hat? Or because even you are too incompetent to roll with that rag tag bunch of miscreants who hid behind exploits for the longest time, and are currently falling apart?

You're a boss in your own mind I'm sure, nobody can touch you in your bad place when you sit in front of your console, or computer screen.

By the time you realize how much of a waste of human flesh you are for beating your chest all over a video game forum, maybe, just maybe you will wake up, look around at all your life failures, and kill yourself.

No big loss.

Lmao now everyone knows Big smile

and I'm the arrogant prick? You looked at my corp and said I didn't know anything because I made a new corp so I showed you all the corps I've been in... AE, TP, IMPS. I was not beating my chest but showing you what right I have to talk about PC, since you assumed I was a nobody.

Also I left AE I was not kicked, you can ask if it means that much to you.


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The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 971	Posted - 2014.03.09 13:11:00 - [1] - Quote I'll just leave this here. Caldari assault Ck.0 Shield: 581.94 Armor:364.5 Total EHP: 946.44 Shield recharge: 31.25/s Shield recharge delay: 3.63/s Shield dep. delay: 7.6/s Armor rep: 0 Movement speed: 4.75 m/s Strafe speed: 4.28 m/s Sprint speed: 6.99 m/s Stamina: 157.5 Stamina recharge:15.75 Cost: 131,655 ISK CPU used: 391/394 PG used: 76/79 Fitting: 4x) Complex shield extenders 1x) Complex shield regulator 1x) Enhanced armor plate 1x) Basic armor plate 1x) Kalakiota RR (51.7 damage per hit, 42 in the mag, 80m optimal, 102 effective) 1x) Magsec SMG (32 damage per hit, 54 in the mag, 40m optimal, 55m effective) 1x) M1 locus grenade 1x) RE www.protofits.com Hardly a "Gimped" suit, and I run all Minmatar. I already have all of my Minmatar suits planned out, Assault included, still doesn't come close to the versatility of this Ck.0. Just watch your back for my Min Scout. Now go "Assault" something. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 972	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:07:00 - [2] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: And a Logistics suit would have 1 additional Low and High Slots, 2 more equipment Slots, and faster Recharge Delay/Depleted delay in exchange for that Side Arm. The Logistics is better or on par with 'assaulting' and can still support. Logi suit, assuming brick tanked (Still the way to go in 1.8) would be as follows for a slayer. Cal Logi Ck.0 Shield: 588 Armor: 596.5 Total EHP:1184.5 Shield recharge: 20/s Shield recharge delay: 6 Shield dep. delay: 8 Armor rep: 0 Movement speed: 4.16 m/s Strafe speed: 3.74 m/s Sprint speed 6.12 m/s Stamina: 120 Stamina recharge: 12.6/s Cost: 138,945 ISK CPU used: 452/459 PG used:98/102 Fitting: 5x Complex shield extender 4x Enhanced armor plate 1x) Kalakiota RR (51.7 damage per hit, 42 in the mag, 80m optimal, 102 effective) 1x) M1 grenade 2x) Compact Nanohive (YAY SUPPORT) Yeah, so much better than the Assault at "assaulting". Good luck getting to cover when you still have other guys running RRs and CRs with comparable EHP, moving much faster than you and your "Support" logi (You know I can tank a Gal scout to over 600 EHP while staying under scanners, fitting PRO weapons, a side arm, grenades, cloak, and RE's, right?) who only has the compact hives so you can rep yourself twice per restock and get some ammo for your only weapon. If you're going to move that slow, just for that EHP and the Proto RR, you might as well run an ADV Gal heavy. Shield: 560.1 Armor: 656.25 Total EHP: 1216.35 Shield recharge: 15/s Shield recharge delay: 5/s Shield dep recharge dealy: 6.42/s Armor rep: 1/s Movement speed: 3.85 m/s Strafe: Not calculated Sprint: Not calculated (Higher than Cal logi Ck.0) Cost: 74,250 ISK CPU used: 231/345 PG used: 73/75 Fitting: 1x) Complex shield extender 1x) Kalakiota RR (51.7 damage per hit, 42 in the mag, 80m optimal, 102 effective) 1x) Magsec SMG (32 damage per hit, 54 in the mag, 40m optimal, 55m effective) 1x) M1 grenade 2x) Complex KinCat 1x) Adv KinCat Plus the damage resistances that you get from the sentinel suit. Then just let a real logi be your "Support" and go back to your mindless zero tactics killing with your long range weapon, high EHP pool, and side arm that is basically an assault rifle in case someone gets close enough to touch you in a bad way. All while having a real logi repping you the whole time to protect your precious KDR. So please, oh great WarRaven, regale me with a tale of how the Cal logi will still remain at the top of the "Assault" food chain? Especially once they actually re-balance the medium suits and the Logistics suits are most likely going to receive a reduction in their CPU and PG to compensate for their bonus to equipment. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 980	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:50:00 - [3] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Shields are too high..remember the cal assault bonus will be different..when you can use a kali in cqc when pushing the city in PC then let me know..minmatar gets extended clip so I don't wana hear that bs..I'll gladly trade you. Forgot that the Cal assault is losing that bonus in 1.8, thanks for pointing that out. Don't have the game in front of me and that protofits dust tool doesn't have the 1.8 bonuses factored in (Best I could do ATM). Anyone can use the RR in CQC because its hipfire is far to tight for such a long range intended weapon, I do quite well with it actually. There is no need to be an arrogant prick about it like you are the greatest player to ever pick up a RR or that its so hard to use for any reason. I was simply building that assault suit, and listing the stats in response to OP saying that the assaults are "Gimped, and will have to adapt", not accusing anyone of anything, or any lack of skill. Lately I've been stuck in either the logi spot, or the scout spot in PC. I miss my assault. Also, its about time that Minmatar started getting some love, we've been the weakest assault suit since they came out. Mostly because CCP didn't take the fact that Minmatar should have higher shield regen, but lower total shields than Caldari (They got the lower shields part right) and a higher speed (Current Min assault speeds can be matched or surpassed by Cal assault at proto level and still have 2 low slots to play with) which at its current state, and even seeing the 1.8 stats, the stamina buff to Min is GREAT, it will help, but the super small speed boost over the other races is negligible due to the stupid high/low slot layout. IMO, Caldari (4 high/3 low) and Minmatar (5 high/2 low) should have their slot layout and shield regen stats switched. Caldari still reigns supreme for shield tanking, and Minmatar can use the regen to actually be the weaker, slightly faster, hit and run specialists that they were supposed to be. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 986	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:18:00 - [4] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I know min assault I skilled it when it first came out.. Arrogant prick? Okay gtfo. Go to PC use the kali in the city against any decent player then comeback with the results before saying **. And no camping on top of something either cuz that's not the point I was making. I know that's not the point you were trying to make, but the phrasing used while making said point was: Heimdallr69 wrote:** when you can use a kali in cqc when pushing the city in PC then let me know... Tell me that doesn't read like an arrogant prick response. The RR is not a hard weapon to use, CQC, long range, mid range, wherever, PC included (Why do you think its used so often in PC, along with the CR. They are accurate, and hard hitting. The two things you really want, especially in PC) Even this response comes across like its some great task to accomplish...Using an OP weapon within its effective (because its broken and has far too tight of a hip-fire for what is supposed to be a long range weapon) range, with high damage per shot landed. I realize that you are now agitated because you took my response to your post as a personal attack, but rest assured, I do not care to argue with you over the internet about a weapon that dominates at any range and really doesn't have any drawbacks aside from actually having to reload it, or how easy/hard it is to use at any of those ranges. Please put your frustrations into something constructive. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 998	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:12:00 - [5] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Connection Failure wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: You people should learn before talking ** too anyone, any relevant player knows me which means you're irrelevant not me... "GG was very EZ" Wow, waggle that e-peen a little more there big guy. Seriously, who the hell do you think you are? You were in AE for a while...BFD, You were a loser neck beard back then when you thought that being good at a video game actually meant something in real life, and your a loser still with this last post. Posting your corp history....wow, am I supposed to be impressed? QFT scrub, nobody cares. Did you get kicked out of AE because you're such an absolute ass hat? Or because even you are too incompetent to roll with that rag tag bunch of miscreants who hid behind exploits for the longest time, and are currently falling apart? You're a boss in your own mind I'm sure, nobody can touch you in your bad place when you sit in front of your console, or computer screen. By the time you realize how much of a waste of human flesh you are for beating your chest all over a video game forum, maybe, just maybe you will wake up, look around at all your life failures, and kill yourself. No big loss. Lmao now everyone knows and I'm the arrogant prick? You looked at my corp and said I didn't know anything because I made a new corp so I showed you all the corps I've been in... AE, TP, IMPS. I was not beating my chest but showing you what right I have to talk about PC, since you assumed I was a nobody. Also I left AE I was not kicked, you can ask if it means that much to you. @ Connection Failure, Wow, that escalated quickly, calm down man. Its a game. I get back to work and check this thread and this is what I see. Holy **. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 998	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:16:00 - [6] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Btw nice alt from FA I really hope hes not some FA alt. Hes in our pub channel and X's up every time we throw out a RF#. I played with the TSE CEO in SOCOM, so a few TSE have our pub channel. Hes an alright guy to squad with but is turning into an annoying little fan boy. He can't be more than 16 years old. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1003	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:52:00 - [7] - Quote Anyway, back on topic. I've been mucking around with that Protofits site, and a little bit in game last night, building assault suits for 1.8. I still don't see them being totally gimped. They will do average at whatever role you build them towards, but still be more front line combat oriented regardless. They just wont excel in whatever suit variant that you build them towards Examples: You can have speed, or armor tank, or damps, or scan range (Useless without precision but that would totally gimp your suit). Or you can have shields or scan precision (Useless with out range, see previous reasoning) Can't move like a scout, with the damps, 2 equipment, and passive scans. You can brick tank it and still be faster than a logi or a heavy, but you can't support like a logi, or have the raw firepower of a heavy. You can do a mix tank and damage mod fit and compete with the commando, but the commando still wins with its raw EHP and bonuses for damage output. You are still much faster though. Once again, just really listing the subtle pros of the assault suit. I'm really liking this less QQ more pew pew mindset and I'm trying to focus on that. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!