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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.09 07:04:00 -
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So far DSUT has proved that CCP hates minmatar, more precisely that the community hates minmatar. Observe:
1. minmatar suits have some of the worst stats and slot layouts in the game 2. every minmatar weapon in the game has been nerfed 3. new minmatar weapons get nerfed the hardest (combat Rifle getting 15% damage nerf, even though only good at cqc) 4. RE's are most likely the next target.
The entire minmatar race is being nerfed as a whole. What can be done?
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.10 15:19:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:Number 4 is baseless speculation, the Mass Driver is being buffed, the HMG is going unchanged in an arena where every other rifle in the game was nerfed, and the Minmatar Logi will arguably be the most useful and in-demand Logi suit in the game with the incoming Heavy hoard.
*MD is worthless. which is why no one uses it. *Speculation is saying the HMG is going to be unchanged... nonethless, with the nerf of the damage mods comes the automatic nerfing of the HMG, which so many heavies depended on. *minmatar logi will only work on galente heavy
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.11 17:06:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:D legendary hero wrote:1. Minmatar suits have some of the worst stats and slot layouts in the game How do you figure? Isn't the Minmatar assault the only PRO assault to have five high slots? They have the second best stamina regen and max stamina as well as the best movement speed, sprint speed, and strafe speed. This makes them very agile and hard as **** to keep a bead on in CQC. D legendary hero wrote:2. every minmatar weapon in the game has been nerfed Okay the flaylock is was hit really hard. The combat rifle needed a nerf, sorry, it happens to some weapons if they are overperforming. D legendary hero wrote:3. new minmatar weapons get nerfed the hardest (combat Rifle getting 15% damage nerf, even though only good at cqc) Because it desperately needed it. That thing is insane... D legendary hero wrote:4. RE's are most likely the next target. Dev source?
Minmatar pro suits also, have only 2 low slots. Speed means nothing because TTK is too damn high. and AA with decent aim yourself mitigates the entire speed advantage. plus inorder to have any survivability mini's need plates, which slows them down. making them easier to hit.
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.11 17:08:00 -
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Vordred Knight wrote:I just want ccp to actually give racial bonuses that really matter like giving gallente a bonus to armor regeneration and caldari shield tanking etc.
and shield recharge and depletetion shortening to minmatar
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.11 17:11:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Jack McReady wrote:D legendary hero wrote: 1. minmatar suits have some of the worst stats and slot layouts in the game
slot layout is not the problem I actually like. the problem is all minmatar suits give up ~15% EHP after full fit for ~7% more speed. first, speed tanking does not work quite well in an FPS and second take a gallente suit, fit a kincat and they are as mobile as the minmatar suit while still having more EHP. this obviously isnt a fair tradeoff, the base stats need to be brought in line with the rest of the suits. Does this mean you also support a reduction between the speed loss the Amarr have, when they gain only a paltry 30hp at medium frame level? (Don't forget they were down a slot as well!) Anyways, the MD will be useful again, as it will be only 1 of two explosive weapons (the other being the Flaylock) that will do direct damage and thus not be affected by the Sentinel's upcoming splash reduction. MDs will be very useful for killing armor tanked Sents. Also, the CR wasn't only good at CQC, unless I happen to have some affinity with it that I exhibit with absolutely no other weapon. It was also a burst fire weapon that could easily be turned full auto with proper timing. It's only losing 1.5% more DPS than the rail rifle, and as other people who've done the math have shown, it's still gonna be better than AR, which is supposed to be the best at CQC. Don't forget that the Minmatar preferred weapon profile, Projectile (-5%/+10%) is the best in the game. It loses only 5% dmaage to shields but against twice that against armor. That is important when figuring a weapon's DPS and range.
projectiles have the most fall off of any weapon type in the game. look at HMGs for example. so they need the -5%/+10% because they start doing no damage at closer ranges.
AR has less dps but actually further range than the CR.
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.11 17:14:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:*Minmatar get weapons that are so good, they are still better then most others after nerf*
flaylock is good...?
Quote: "OHMYGODWHYYOUHATEMINMATARSOMUCHCCP?" -Rust people from the duct tape galaxy
I'm sorry man, but the flaylock was too strong(thought it got nerfed way too hard) and the CR didn't get nerfed hard enough IMO, it's still better then the AR.
AR still has more range than CR. and dnt forget CR is burst and AR is full auto
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And the MD is getting a buff and the Minmatar Assault/Scout are getting great bonuses.
The Minmatar suits are honestly only bad because of bullet magnatism and AA, before 1.4 the Minny suits would kick ass.
Edit:just so you guys know, I'm just joking around. I love my Matari bros.
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I am not against Min suits getting some sort of buff.
The Low fitting capacity coupled with naturally lower HP is a hit to the suits effectiveness.
Were any concrete numbers presented as to specific buffs desired?
I did actually. in a separate thread on minmatar dropsuits
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:D legendary hero wrote:So far DUST has proved that CCP hates minmatar, more precisely that the community hates minmatar. Observe:
1. minmatar suits have some of the worst stats and slot layouts in the game
Sure. Quote: 2. every minmatar weapon in the game has been nerfed
And every other weapon bar the plasma cannon, nova knives, and scrambler pistol has been nerfed at some point. Quote: 3. new minmatar weapons get nerfed the hardest (combat Rifle getting 15% damage nerf, even though only good at cqc)
The CR damn well needs that nerf. If you think it's only good at CQC, you are terrible. Quote: 4. RE's are most likely the next target.
The entire minmatar race is being nerfed as a whole. What can be done?
Baseless speculation.
everything you just said i countered on page one. read.
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:45:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:D legendary hero wrote:So far DUST has proved that CCP hates minmatar, more precisely that the community hates minmatar. Observe:
1. minmatar suits have some of the worst stats and slot layouts in the game 2. every minmatar weapon in the game has been nerfed 3. new minmatar weapons get nerfed the hardest (combat Rifle getting 15% damage nerf, even though only good at cqc) 4. RE's are most likely the next target.
The entire minmatar race is being nerfed as a whole. What can be done? The lack of faith in your own abilities to adapt disgust me! Do our race a favor and terminate yourself, your a disgrace. The way of the Minmatar is the way of duct tape and adaption, if you can't adapt, your not worthy of our gear! Go skill into the gear of the enemy and shut up. We don't want you in our ranks.
dude. you dnt run minmatar. infact you love being a slave. uncle tom. go suck your massa's ****.
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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2014.03.15 06:40:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:D legendary hero wrote:
everything you just said i countered on page one. read.
You really didn't. Read what I said.
actually i did. Which is why i will not say it again. unless you want me to repost the same answer.s
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