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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.09 11:01:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:As far as TTK going up, this is actually bad for heavies comparatively, and good for medium and light frames. Remember that running a heavy is essentially a trade off of speed for hp. More time to kill means more time for a medium frame to maneuver, making strafing and cover more important, whereas when death is instantaneous, there's no time for an assault to use their speed to their advantage.
When I become supreme ruler of mankind, and the industrialized world lay in ashes and ruin, I will have you brought from my vault of "people I'm saving for later that I specifically want to watch perish", and I will personally throw you into a hole full of cannibalistic crackheads for being this stupid.
Medium/Light frames already die near instantly when facing heavies with HMGs. More TTK is a huge mistake on CCP's part and I am not surprised. How they don't see these obstacles until they hit them blows my mind.
Mark my words - The HMG, heavy HP, or the weapons that were nerfed in 1.8 will be adjusted in 1.9.
CCP is making a mistake and they will realize this.
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.09 11:35:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:Asher Night wrote:God Hates Lags wrote:As far as TTK going up, this is actually bad for heavies comparatively, and good for medium and light frames. Remember that running a heavy is essentially a trade off of speed for hp. More time to kill means more time for a medium frame to maneuver, making strafing and cover more important, whereas when death is instantaneous, there's no time for an assault to use their speed to their advantage.
When I become supreme ruler of mankind, and the industrialized world lay in ashes and ruin, I will have you brought from my vault of "people I'm saving for later that I specifically want to watch perish", and I will personally throw you into a hole full of cannibalistic crackheads for being this stupid. Medium/Light frames already die near instantly when facing heavies with HMGs. More TTK is a huge mistake on CCP's part and I am not surprised. How they don't see these obstacles until they hit them blows my mind. Mark my words - The HMG, heavy HP, or the weapons that were nerfed in 1.8 will be adjusted in 1.9. CCP is making a mistake and they will realize this. Oh no! now my medium frame can't solo a heavy in cqc they're OP bring back my medium suit with 1000 HP with a 1000dps gun and spam able heal equipment. Skill
Sarcasm: The blatantly obvious indicator of a beta male. Anyway, think critically for half a second and realize this actually means that even though you get the drop on a heavy, have perfectly fine gun game, you are still more likely to die all because he had more HP and a deadlier weapon that wasn't nerfed.
I'm a scout by the way. I'll be dieing instantly when shot, regardless.
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.09 11:49:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:
Kill a heavy from far away. Dont expect to get to a heavies optimal and get away with it. They are trading off a lot to be that durable; specially a proper heavy with an hmg. I hate people say heavies are op as hell or will be op ad hell when most people get into a heavy with an hmg and the first thing they do is switch the hmg for a light weapon because it doesnt meet their expectation.
This makes little sense. I'm a Gal scout, and even I can't see enemies in close quarters until it's too late. I have no idea how anyone else is going to fair, especially without fitting a cloak like me. I get killed by the MH-82 HMG from 30+ m all the time, despite running, dipping, dodging, whatever the hell I can do to get away. Sometimes, many times, there are situations and places where you just can't avoid the possibility of being seen, and when it's by a heavy, the chance of survival is smaller - smaller still if they have a light weapon as opposed to an HMG.
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.09 11:54:00 -
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BattleCry1791 wrote:xSir Campsalotx wrote:Heavies will not be OP I'm speccing scouts come 1.8 take it as you will. Sony should THANK DUST514, because of this game, I'm going to go by a PS4....I simply refuse to play this piece of **** any more and no other PS3 games intrigue me...so Warframe here I come. That's right...I'd rather pay 400 US than play this "F2P game" on a console I already own. CCP, you're a ******* embarrassment to the PSN FPS community.
I have good news - Warframe is also on the PC, and an updated graphics card will be cheaper than $400. Also, the PC version of Warframe is free to download.
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.09 12:02:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
hides laser
whistling and thinking of laser baked hmg heavies in 1.8 ...
How many fedoras do you own?
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.09 13:50:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:
so you guys wanna nerf the hmg for doing its role wow my mind is blown
So you guys wanna ban the nuclear bomb for doing its role wow my mind is blown
So you guys wanna ban the flamethrower from modern warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown
So you guys wanna ban chemical weapons for doing their role wow my mind is blown
So you guys wanna ban hollow point rounds from conventional warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown
You must have a pretty small mind, boy.
If it does it's job too well it gets nerfed even in real life. This is a video game, dumbass. It's supposed to be fair competition. I've been playing with a militia heavy and basic AR/CR and can honestly say even at militia it seems like it takes way less effort and strategy to play as than anything else. How is that fair when your opponent has to try harder, and invest more SP to match you? I'm building up a nice collage of pictures of my scores, too. If you can't play as a heavy, you literally suck at life.
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.09 21:13:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Heavy HMG is not getting a nerf dude. Losing Weapon Prof , Nerfed Dmg mods ,and less fluxes is a bit of a nerf to it .
Dude, with that logic then name one weapon that ISN'T getting nerfed? Think for TWO SECONDS before speaking.
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.10 00:37:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Asher Night wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:
so you guys wanna nerf the hmg for doing its role wow my mind is blown
So you guys wanna ban the nuclear bomb for doing its role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban the flamethrower from modern warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban chemical weapons for doing their role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban hollow point rounds from conventional warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown You must have a pretty small mind, boy. If it does it's job too well it gets nerfed even in real life. This is a video game, dumbass. It's supposed to be fair competition. I've been playing with a militia heavy and basic AR/CR and can honestly say even at militia it seems like it takes way less effort and strategy to play as than anything else. How is that fair when your opponent has to try harder, and invest more SP to match you? I'm building up a nice collage of pictures of my scores, too. If you can't play as a heavy, you literally suck at life. Lolz did you just say the flamethrower did a great job. It burned people alive and tended to explode. No it didn't do its job right and was banned because of its cruel way of death. The nuclear bomb wasn't banned it's still in use dur. Chemical weapons only fear opposing countries we have mop gear for Chem attacks. And hollow point rounds weren't banned are you high? Don't bring real life into a video game asshat
Wow, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and have missed the entire point of my post. Are you half ******** or just 100% stupid?
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.10 16:13:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Asher Night wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Asher Night wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:
so you guys wanna nerf the hmg for doing its role wow my mind is blown
So you guys wanna ban the nuclear bomb for doing its role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban the flamethrower from modern warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban chemical weapons for doing their role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban hollow point rounds from conventional warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown You must have a pretty small mind, boy. If it does it's job too well it gets nerfed even in real life. This is a video game, dumbass. It's supposed to be fair competition. I've been playing with a militia heavy and basic AR/CR and can honestly say even at militia it seems like it takes way less effort and strategy to play as than anything else. How is that fair when your opponent has to try harder, and invest more SP to match you? I'm building up a nice collage of pictures of my scores, too. If you can't play as a heavy, you literally suck at life. Lolz did you just say the flamethrower did a great job. It burned people alive and tended to explode. No it didn't do its job right and was banned because of its cruel way of death. The nuclear bomb wasn't banned it's still in use dur. Chemical weapons only fear opposing countries we have mop gear for Chem attacks. And hollow point rounds weren't banned are you high? Don't bring real life into a video game asshat Wow, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and have missed the entire point of my post. Are you half ******** or just 100% stupid? The real question are you? Your obviously mad yet you wine and complain about something you can't even test. Only speculate. Congrats your supper cool and here's a cookie for being a swell guy
I really hope english isn't your first language because you suck at it. By the way, you havr no idea what the geneva convention is, do you? The fact that you said all those methods of war are perfectly fine shows you have no idea what the U.N is, that the geneva convention ever existed.
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Asher Night
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Posted - 2014.03.10 16:24:00 -
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castba wrote:Asher Night wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:
so you guys wanna nerf the hmg for doing its role wow my mind is blown
So you guys wanna ban the nuclear bomb for doing its role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban the flamethrower from modern warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban chemical weapons for doing their role wow my mind is blown So you guys wanna ban hollow point rounds from conventional warfare for doing its role wow my mind is blown You must have a pretty small mind, boy. If it does it's job too well it gets nerfed even in real life. This is a video game, dumbass. It's supposed to be fair competition. I've been playing with a militia heavy and basic AR/CR and can honestly say even at militia it seems like it takes way less effort and strategy to play as than anything else. How is that fair when your opponent has to try harder, and invest more SP to match you? I'm building up a nice collage of pictures of my scores, too. If you can't play as a heavy, you literally suck at life. Post is irrelevant. Comparing RL to a sci-fi video game is irrelevant Playing with an AR/CR on a heavy frame is NOT the same as playing with an HMG. Side note - calling someone names in an argument can be an effective way of diverting attention from the lack of substance in one's statements... but not on this occasion.
Calling something irrelevent does not actually make it irrrelevent. Calling some one a dumbass when they are being stupid does not mean you are trying to distract people - it means you are calling a person stupid. Quit being paranoid and calling out nonsensical accusations.
It is a fair comparison. If the weapon is too destructive, it doesn't get used. Believe it or not, situations in video games can mimic real life. Not that hard to believe. The heavy itself is OP in that it simply has -too- much more power than other frames. Doesn't matter what weapon you use, it has too mich more of an advantage in a fight, caught off guard or not.
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