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        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.09 02:49:00 -
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 A piece of equipment that would change the game up a bit would be a sentry gun for all damage types?
 
 Amarr Sentry Gun: Charge Firing High Damage Sentry gun that heats up over time DMG: 15 - 25
 
 Caldari Sentry Gun: Slow firing rail turret that does great damage at longer ranges. DMG : 20
 
 Gallente Sentry Gun: Median ROF turret with plasma rounds and hits at medium ranges: DMG 18.5
 
 Minmatar Sentry Gun: Extremly fast ROF at short to medium range DMG 15
 
 What do you guys think? its just an idea that came to mind and it would change up defending objectives and give the logi role some flavor. Or even a certain amount of time that its deployed for or even a radius you would have to be in to keep it runing.
 
 
 It would be an equipment slot from your suit & extra proficientcy skills would be like
 
 2% to deploy time per level
 
 or
 
 5% Radius you wouldhave to be in to keep it up per level
 
 or
 
 2% Bonus to damage per level
 
 And finally
 
 Something like a 5% tracking speed bonus
 
 So much potential for a small sentry gun in DUST & it wouldn't be OP because of the minimal damage it would do. And it would be a small turret.
 
 So tell me what are your thoughts of a sentry gun in DUST 514? I would like constructive feedback on what you guys think.
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  DEA Scott Richardson
 Forty-Nine Fedayeen
 Minmatar Republic
 
 16
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 02:50:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:A piece of equipment that would change the game up a bit would be a sentry gun for all damage types?
 Amarr Sentry Gun: Charge Firing High Damage Sentry gun that heats up over time DMG: 15 - 25
 
 Caldari Sentry Gun: Slow firing rail turret that does great damage at longer ranges. DMG : 20
 
 Gallente Sentry Gun: Median ROF turret with plasma rounds and hits at medium ranges: DMG 18.5
 
 Minmatar Sentry Gun: Extremly fast ROF at short to medium range DMG 15
 
 What do you guys think? its just an idea that came to mind and it would change up defending objectives and give the logi role some flavor. Or even a certain amount of time that its deployed for or even a radius you would have to be in to keep it runing.
 
 
 It would be an equipment slot from your suit & extra proficientcy skills would be like
 
 2% to deploy time per level
 
 or
 
 5% Radius you wouldhave to be in to keep it up per level
 
 or
 
 2% Bonus to damage per level
 
 So much potential for a small sentry gun in DUST & it wouldn't be OP because of the minimal damage it would do. And it would be a small turret.
 
 So tell me what are your thoughts of a sentry gun in DUST 514? I would like constructive feedback on what you guys think.
 Intresting, I would ike somthing like this as long as its not OP
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        |  Jaysyn Larrisen
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 791
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 04:19:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:A piece of equipment that would change the game up a bit would be a sentry gun for all damage types?
 Amarr Sentry Gun: Charge Firing High Damage Sentry gun that heats up over time DMG: 15 - 25
 
 Caldari Sentry Gun: Slow firing rail turret that does great damage at longer ranges. DMG : 20
 
 Gallente Sentry Gun: Median ROF turret with plasma rounds and hits at medium ranges: DMG 18.5
 
 Minmatar Sentry Gun: Extremly fast ROF at short to medium range DMG 15
 
 What do you guys think? its just an idea that came to mind and it would change up defending objectives and give the logi role some flavor. Or even a certain amount of time that its deployed for or even a radius you would have to be in to keep it runing.
 
 
 It would be an equipment slot from your suit & extra proficientcy skills would be like
 
 2% to deploy time per level
 
 or
 
 5% Radius you wouldhave to be in to keep it up per level
 
 or
 
 2% Bonus to damage per level
 
 And finally
 
 Something like a 5% tracking speed bonus
 
 So much potential for a small sentry gun in DUST & it wouldn't be OP because of the minimal damage it would do. And it would be a small turret.
 
 So tell me what are your thoughts of a sentry gun in DUST 514? I would like constructive feedback on what you guys think.
 
 I've been waiting on something like this for quite a while to be honest.
 
 There are couple ways to approach it. You can throw a modified single use uplink on the ground and it wormholes in a small turret equipped stationary platform. Essentially the existing missal, blaster, rail turrets that we hang on LAVs and DS. The CPU/PG cost should be pretty steep...cloak range probably.
 
 The other way you could go is essentially taking any existing light weapon on a very light weight tripod set up with a small sensor / fire control system integrated. You get get normal turret AI but in a stationary bare bones system that uses a regular light weapon. I would limit suits that might be able to employ it or again make the CPU / PG cost steep.
 
 For both of the employment concepts you can use existing tiers of STD, ADV, PROTO based on the turret operation skill.
 
 "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero | 
      
      
        |  Godin Thekiller
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 1848
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 04:33:00 -
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 I'd rather have a small turret that's deployable by infantry (takes up a weapon slot, probably heavy) than this. Just make a variant that can be automated and/or remote controlled
 
 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_- | 
      
      
        |  Beef Supreme 4
 WEKILLING JOY
 
 4
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 04:47:00 -
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 I'm down for it.
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        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 232
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 15:50:00 -
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 Bump
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  Zeke Dunevent
 sNk Syndicate
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 16:38:00 -
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 It is an interesting idea, and I think you thought it out pretty well, but the problem would be ensuring there is a limit too how many can be on the map for either team at a time. It just sounds like it's something everyone would run non-stop.
 
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        |  DJINN Jecture
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 138
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 17:12:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:A piece of equipment that would change the game up a bit would be a sentry gun for all damage types?
 Amarr Sentry Gun: Charge Firing High Damage Sentry gun that heats up over time DMG: 15 - 25
 
 Caldari Sentry Gun: Slow firing rail turret that does great damage at longer ranges. DMG : 20
 
 Gallente Sentry Gun: Median ROF turret with plasma rounds and hits at medium ranges: DMG 18.5
 
 Minmatar Sentry Gun: Extremly fast ROF at short to medium range DMG 15
 
 What do you guys think? its just an idea that came to mind and it would change up defending objectives and give the logi role some flavor. Or even a certain amount of time that its deployed for or even a radius you would have to be in to keep it runing.
 
 
 It would be an equipment slot from your suit & extra proficientcy skills would be like
 
 2% to deploy time per level
 
 or
 
 5% Radius you wouldhave to be in to keep it up per level
 
 or
 
 2% Bonus to damage per level
 
 And finally
 
 Something like a 5% tracking speed bonus
 
 So much potential for a small sentry gun in DUST & it wouldn't be OP because of the minimal damage it would do. And it would be a small turret.
 
 So tell me what are your thoughts of a sentry gun in DUST 514? I would like constructive feedback on what you guys think.
 We have this already. The piece of equipment is called a Drop Uplink, and as soon as we have all racial heavy suits you wil have racial sentry guns just as you ask...so be proactive about it.
 
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        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 237
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 17:45:00 -
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 DJINN Jecture wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:A piece of equipment that would change the game up a bit would be a sentry gun for all damage types?
 Amarr Sentry Gun: Charge Firing High Damage Sentry gun that heats up over time DMG: 15 - 25
 
 Caldari Sentry Gun: Slow firing rail turret that does great damage at longer ranges. DMG : 20
 
 Gallente Sentry Gun: Median ROF turret with plasma rounds and hits at medium ranges: DMG 18.5
 
 Minmatar Sentry Gun: Extremly fast ROF at short to medium range DMG 15
 
 What do you guys think? its just an idea that came to mind and it would change up defending objectives and give the logi role some flavor. Or even a certain amount of time that its deployed for or even a radius you would have to be in to keep it runing.
 
 
 It would be an equipment slot from your suit & extra proficientcy skills would be like
 
 2% to deploy time per level
 
 or
 
 5% Radius you wouldhave to be in to keep it up per level
 
 or
 
 2% Bonus to damage per level
 
 And finally
 
 Something like a 5% tracking speed bonus
 
 So much potential for a small sentry gun in DUST & it wouldn't be OP because of the minimal damage it would do. And it would be a small turret.
 
 So tell me what are your thoughts of a sentry gun in DUST 514? I would like constructive feedback on what you guys think.
 We have this already. The piece of equipment is called a Drop Uplink , and as soon as we have all racial heavy suits you wil have racial sentry guns just as you ask...so be proactive about it. I already know there's a drop uplink in the game theres no need to point it out and its off topic. And how do you knwo there will be sentry guns after the heavy? please show me your sources :D
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  ALPHA DECRIPTER
 Dragon-Empire
 
 814
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.09 20:54:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:I already know there's a drop uplink in the game theres no need to point it out and its off topic. And how do you knwo there will be sentry guns after the heavy? please show me your sources :D
 
 I can't tell if your joking or not
  
 [on topic]
 
 As a scout I would love to set one up behind the enemy but I feel it works better as logi gear. Make the CPU/PG noticeably high, allow logi bonus to effect the turret, turrets only remain on the field if you are using a fitting that has a turret (no placing a turret then switching to a spam fit), and restrict it to only one turret deployed at a time (even if you are trying to utilize multiple variants).
 
 Due to it's purpose I propose calling it a "Suppressor Turret" as it's job is to slow down the enemy.
 
 Higher tier turrets would have a larger proxy and deal more damage. The turret skill would effect both tracking and max ammo. (hives can restore turret ammo).
 
 I don't like the idea of staying near the turret being mandatory (but recommended). Give the turret a min-max attack range. Enemies within it's max attack range will not be engaged until they attack the turret, the owner attacks the target, or the target enter it's min attack range.
 
 In "Brink" there turrets would scan at a preset angle but if an enemy was detected then the turret would track the target for a full 360 degrees.
 Turrets could also be hacked by operatives and then, if they so chose, remote controlled. This would be the risk of leaving a turret alone.
 
 Had more thoughts but getting hungry so I'll stop here.
 This is just my two ISK, do with it what you will.
 
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        |  The-Errorist
 
 555
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.10 19:19:00 -
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 I made up some stats that fits the general racial archetypes:
 
 Caldari use long range, high alpha damage weapons with lowest RoF and the lowest DPS.
 Amarr use mid to long range, moderate alpha damage weapons with moderate RoF and DPS.
 Minmatar use close to mid range, lowest alpha damage weapons with highest RoF and moderate DPS.
 Gallente use close range, decent alpha damage weapons with highest DPS and a moderate fire-rate.
 
 
 Amarr Sentry Gun: A mid to long-range turret with high damage per shot, moderate ROF and DPS. It can also charge its shots and has heat build up.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 43.4/56/175
 DMG: 17
 Rof: 666
 DPS: 188.7
 
 Caldari Sentry Gun: A long-range turret with the lowest RoF and DPS, but has the highest damage per shot. Has a 0.2 second charge up time before able to fire.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 49.6/68/200
 DMG: 20
 RoF: 462
 DPS: 154
 
 Gallente Sentry Gun: A close range turret with a decent damage per shot, a moderate RoF, and the highest DPS.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 22m/39m/150m
 DMG: 16
 RoF: 750
 DPS: 200
 
 Minmatar Sentry Gun: A close to mid-range turret with the fastest RoF and moderate DPS.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 36.4/45.5/162.5
 DMG: 11
 RoF: 1000
 DPS: 183.33
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        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 242
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.10 21:06:00 -
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 The-Errorist wrote:I made up some stats that fits the general racial archetypes:
 Caldari use long range, high alpha damage weapons with lowest RoF and the lowest DPS.
 Amarr use mid to long range, moderate alpha damage weapons with moderate RoF and DPS.
 Minmatar use close to mid range, lowest alpha damage weapons with highest RoF and moderate DPS.
 Gallente use close range, decent alpha damage weapons with highest DPS and a moderate fire-rate.
 
 
 Amarr Sentry Gun: A mid to long-range turret with high damage per shot, moderate ROF and DPS. It can also charge its shots and has heat build up.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 43.4/56/175
 DMG: 17
 Rof: 666
 DPS: 188.7
 
 Caldari Sentry Gun: A long-range turret with the lowest RoF and DPS, but has the highest damage per shot. Has a 0.2 second charge up time before able to fire.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 49.6/68/200
 DMG: 20
 RoF: 462
 DPS: 154
 
 Gallente Sentry Gun: A close range turret with a decent damage per shot, a moderate RoF, and the highest DPS.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 22m/39m/150m
 DMG: 16
 RoF: 750
 DPS: 200
 
 Minmatar Sentry Gun: A close to mid-range turret with the fastest RoF and moderate DPS.
 Optimal/Effective/Absolute ranges: 36.4/45.5/162.5
 DMG: 11
 RoF: 1000
 DPS: 183.33
 Awsome its way more detailed than mine :o +1
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  DJINN Jecture
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 138
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.10 22:48:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:DJINN Jecture wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:Blah Blah Blah Wall-o-text
 Sentry guns blah new blah my heavy doesn't trust me or my rep tool so I need a turret that will stand and take it like a "man"
 We have this already. The piece of equipment is called a Drop Uplink , and as soon as we have all racial heavy suits you wil have racial sentry guns just as you ask...so be proactive about it. I already know there's a drop uplink in the game theres no need to point it out and its off topic. And how do you knwo there will be sentry guns after the heavy? please show me your sources :D 
 Well my source for this is the fact we will have all racial Heavies, which by definition are walking sentry guns...wtf do you think that big thing that moves slow and fires tonnes of bullets is for if not acting like a turret?
 
 TLDR Why?
 
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        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 247
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.10 23:36:00 -
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 DJINN Jecture wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:DJINN Jecture wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:Blah Blah Blah Wall-o-text
 Sentry guns blah new blah my heavy doesn't trust me or my rep tool so I need a turret that will stand and take it like a "man"
 We have this already. The piece of equipment is called a Drop Uplink , and as soon as we have all racial heavy suits you wil have racial sentry guns just as you ask...so be proactive about it. I already know there's a drop uplink in the game theres no need to point it out and its off topic. And how do you knwo there will be sentry guns after the heavy? please show me your sources :D Well my source for this is the fact we will have all racial Heavies, which by definition are walking sentry guns...wtf do you think that big thing that moves slow and fires tonnes of bullets is for if not acting like a turret? TLDR Why? Well actually they are NOT sentry guns
 
 sen-try gun
 A sentry gun is a gun that is automatically aimed and fired at targets that are detected by sensors.
 
 But if you need the definition of infantry I can get that for you to oh wait....
 
 in-+fan-+try
 1.
 soldiers marching or fighting on foot; foot soldiers collectively.
 
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        |  Draco Cerberus
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 816
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.10 23:42:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:DJINN Jecture wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:DJINN Jecture wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:Blah Blah Blah Wall-o-text
 Sentry guns blah new blah my heavy doesn't trust me or my rep tool so I need a turret that will stand and take it like a "man"
 We have this already. The piece of equipment is called a Drop Uplink , and as soon as we have all racial heavy suits you wil have racial sentry guns just as you ask...so be proactive about it. I already know there's a drop uplink in the game theres no need to point it out and its off topic. And how do you knwo there will be sentry guns after the heavy? please show me your sources :D Well my source for this is the fact we will have all racial Heavies, which by definition are walking sentry guns...wtf do you think that big thing that moves slow and fires tonnes of bullets is for if not acting like a turret? TLDR Why? Well actually they are NOT sentry gunssen-try gun A sentry gun is a gun that is automatically aimed and fired at targets that are detected by sensors.
 But if you need the definition of infantry I can get that for you to oh wait.... in-+fan-+try 1. soldiers marching or fighting on foot; foot soldiers collectively. so, web-ster helped you out? Still a useless piece of equipment, although having something that walks around, kills enemies and gets you free wp for healing them seems like a nice addition to the game...oh I guess that defines a hea-vy.
 
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        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 249
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.10 23:58:00 -
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 Actually I don't play COD I play real games like Battle Field a game DUST 514 stole alot from. But I still truly love DUST 514. A turret much like what i'm talking about WILL come out at some point. I do indeed have my hopes up for it. CCP is putting 10 yrs into this game. If in 10 years time there is no sentry gun you can destroy me on the forums all you want. I don't see a sentry gun as "useless" if its meant for defending and attacking automatically while you manage other areas and or watching the area with a little extra firepower. I'm done arguing with you....
 
 & BTW there is already installations. That's enough to think a smaller version will come out.
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  Draco Cerberus
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 819
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 01:02:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:Actually I don't play COD I play real games like Battle Field a game DUST 514 stole alot from. But I still truly love DUST 514. A turret much like what i'm talking about WILL come out at some point. I do indeed have my hopes up for it. CCP is putting 10 yrs into this game. If in 10 years time there is no sentry gun you can destroy me on the forums all you want. I don't see a sentry gun as "useless" if its meant for defending and attacking automatically while you manage other areas and or watching the area with a little extra firepower. I'm done arguing with you....
 & BTW there is already installations. That's enough to think a smaller version will come out.
 We also had a trailer or two with PVE in them, enough to think it will come out too and yet...
 
 LogiGod earns his pips | 
      
      
        |  Shadow Archeus
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 326
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 01:29:00 -
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 Could you imagine a logi suit with three deployable turrets........no just.....no
 
 Real heavies use lasers | 
      
      
        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 249
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 01:47:00 -
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 Shadow Archeus wrote:Could you imagine a logi suit with three deployable turrets........no just.....no could you imagine a gal. logi with 7 deployable rep nanohives? no...... just...... no but to bad things happen.
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 249
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 01:48:00 -
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 Draco Cerberus wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:Actually I don't play COD I play real games like Battle Field a game DUST 514 stole alot from. But I still truly love DUST 514. A turret much like what i'm talking about WILL come out at some point. I do indeed have my hopes up for it. CCP is putting 10 yrs into this game. If in 10 years time there is no sentry gun you can destroy me on the forums all you want. I don't see a sentry gun as "useless" if its meant for defending and attacking automatically while you manage other areas and or watching the area with a little extra firepower. I'm done arguing with you....
 & BTW there is already installations. That's enough to think a smaller version will come out.
 We also had a trailer or two with PVE in them, enough to think it will come out too and yet... you deny the inevitable.... Something LIKE this or exactly this will happen at some point.
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  Draco Cerberus
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 821
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 02:25:00 -
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 No, what I am saying is that the Heavy fills the niche of deploy able turret quite well already, no need for an unmanned one. Stop trying to solo the game and join a squad.
 
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        |  Spectral Clone
 Dust2Dust.
 Top Men.
 
 1606
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 07:15:00 -
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 Minmatar sentry gun can be seen in the last episode of Breaking Bad. Its a light machine gun mounted on a crankshaft going back and forth while shooting.
 
 Minimalistic. Effective. Duct tape. Cheap.
 
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        |  sly Bandit
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 45
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 12:34:00 -
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 There were small turret installations in closed beta.
 Edit: you can see them in a video somewhere.. That's how I know about them.
 
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        |  Defy Gravity
 Knights of Eternal Darkness
 League of Infamy
 
 249
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.11 21:42:00 -
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 Draco Cerberus wrote:No, what I am saying is that the Heavy fills the niche of deploy able turret quite well already, no need for an unmanned one. Stop trying to solo the game and join a squad. I don't solo my games I play with my corp and my alliance
 
 Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!" Fully support the respec for 1.8 | 
      
      
        |  The-Errorist
 
 556
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.12 01:25:00 -
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 This thread got derailed fast. Can we keep it on topic and stop speculating and debating about things that do not relate to having deployable sentry gun equipment in dust?
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