DUST Search - Being A Logi Is NOT Profitable, This HAS To Change

Sum1ne Else wrote:

I have been saying this since around May 2013.. I totally agree with the OP and is why I rarely run logi anymore and so do many others. These guys on the forum replying do not understand a true logi and how they can make money. If you dont do PC or are not apart of the PC money glitch corps and just play pubs you will find that most games you go negative in isk. I have already posted this and you just get bunch of KDR trolls replying.. but what they dont realise is when they need a hive, uplink, rep, needle, whatever they moan and then end up loosing the game anyways.

I have just run games with completely free gear and when you usually are a key role in your corp/team they all realise. I have tried many different combinations using as many BPOs as possible but with the current way the game is-ie. TTK being low, proto pub stompers etc its just pointless. If I was you, I would just use FOTM, or buy a militia tank, snipe even, but then the game just is boring and you end up quitting. I am at 30m and fluctuate between 30m and 60m for 12 months- and with 31m SP its hard not to run ADV gear- I never run proto in pubs and do 2 or 3 PCs per month.

EDIT: I have all this gear, yet I cannot use it all the time, I would really like 3 different modes of AMB/DOM/Skirm where meta level is introduced..I really do not think these proto pub stompers would stand a chance with their crutches against most corps that only run STD/ADV gear. Other than that double isk for winning. Something needs to be introduced with regards to isk.


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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2247	Posted - 2014.03.09 05:11:00 - [1] - Quote I make a small profit using just ADV suits, a bit more sprinkling in BPOs. There's a reason you will never see me in a proto suit. No surprise here, this is the (actually not) hidden cost of being a logi that the whiners forget when they QQ about the WP we earn. BTW, we all know the economy, such as it is, is broken, but two things were never intended to be profitable: - losing - running proto 24/7 "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2253	Posted - 2014.03.09 17:18:00 - [2] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: I have been saying this since around May 2013.. I totally agree with the OP and is why I rarely run logi anymore and so do many others. These guys on the forum replying do not understand a true logi and how they can make money. If you dont do PC or are not apart of the PC money glitch corps and just play pubs you will find that most games you go negative in isk. I have already posted this and you just get bunch of KDR trolls replying.. but what they dont realise is when they need a hive, uplink, rep, needle, whatever they moan and then end up loosing the game anyways. I have just run games with completely free gear and when you usually are a key role in your corp/team they all realise. I have tried many different combinations using as many BPOs as possible but with the current way the game is-ie. TTK being low, proto pub stompers etc its just pointless. If I was you, I would just use FOTM, or buy a militia tank, snipe even, but then the game just is boring and you end up quitting. I am at 30m and fluctuate between 30m and 60m for 12 months- and with 31m SP its hard not to run ADV gear- I never run proto in pubs and do 2 or 3 PCs per month. EDIT: I have all this gear, yet I cannot use it all the time, I would really like 3 different modes of AMB/DOM/Skirm where meta level is introduced..I really do not think these proto pub stompers would stand a chance with their crutches against most corps that only run STD/ADV gear. Other than that double isk for winning. Something needs to be introduced with regards to isk. I'm not usually in the HTFU scrub crowd but that's just not true. On the contrary, it's those who want to use proto all the time who care about KDR if you ask me. If you really care about ISK and not KDR, like me, you would never use proto in pubs (again, like me.) John Demonsbane lifetime stats (more or less, don't check it religiously) KDR 0.9 Kills 6000 WP 1 mil Number of proto suits used: 1(just to try it out) Profit from PC: 0 ISK Current wallet: 60 mil ISK (with 100s of fully stocked proto and ADV suits bought) I run an overall profit in pubs running BPOs and ADV suits. Equipment is always higher tier than my weapon and I never have any empty equip slots. When I'm drunk or solo on a bad team or in Amarr FW I lose ISK but make it up other times. If you're on a crap team use BPOs and just deal with dying more easily. Tl;dr I meet nobody's definition of l33t but running a profit as a logi is very doable without any exploits. Also: Meh... #1.8fakelogiexodus (I need to Gäó that.) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!