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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.08 05:43:00 -
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Before I go into why I'm staying as a minmatar scout, I need explain what the advantages or disadvantages are with the other 3 scout suits.
1. The Caldari Scout -
One of the only reasons why you would want this suit is because of it's scanning purposes and possible tanking capabilities. On the prototype you get 4 high slots, and 2 low. Shield tanking is going to be only option for true scouts, because you're going to need that speed, and when you only have 2 Complex kin cats on the second fastest/slowest scout in the game, you'll only be running at about a little more than 10 m/s (definitely less than 10.38 since that's what the minmatar runs at currently with two comp kin cats), and that's a little on the edge for speed tanking. However you could argue that with 1.8 ttk is going up so survivability is favorable for all scouts, but it seems to me that the Caldari Scout is more of an assault variant of the scouts: you can probably tank up to +800 HP with complex plates and shields, and if you stick a rail rife on that suit, you're going a great assault, but not a scout.
2. The Gallente Scout-
I seriously considered this scout, but after much deliberation, I have decided against. I'm going against this because in the end, this suit won't be as fast nor have as much HP on a shield tanking variant. At 4 Comp Kin cats, the Gal scout runs at 11.11m/s which is ridiculously fast. However the Minmatar scout at 3 Comp. Kin cats runs at 11.12m/s. I know it's .01 m/s greater but the point here is I'll be having about 100 more HP than a shield tanked Gal scout when I'm on a Minmatar scout. A major benefit to the Gal scout,however, is the 3 hp/s armor rep, which is a pretty good deal and is still nagging me even though I've made up my mind atm. There is also the issue of a lower base profile. In 1.8, Minjas will be losing their base profile dampening bonus and replaced with hacking speed, but I'm not concerned about this because (1) Scanners are going to be nerfed and (2) All scouts will be getting their base profile reduced to 35, and when you have the bonus from the dampnening skill you can bring it down to 32. Ultimately I have decided against the Gal scout because of the HP. (I'm still considering that armor rep though lol)
3. The Amarr Scout-
This scout is pretty similar to the Gal scout. There are however a few key differences that set it apart from the Gal scout. The Amarr suit has the same exact slot setups for the std, adv, and proto suits as the Gal scout. Although it has the same slot setup, the Amarr scout is inherently slower than the Gal scout and has more base HP totaling 230 vs. the Gal scout's 200 HP. WIth 4 Complex Kin cats the Amarr Scout is goign to be less than 11m/s and probably closer to 10.6 m/s, but we should acknowledge that the bonus on the Amarr scout is the stamina bonus, which is really cool because you'll be able to literally do laps around the entire map and not lost stamina that quickly. There is not armor rep on the Amarr scout unfortunately (if there was I would've gone for this lol) but the HP at the proto level is pretty close to 400 when shield tanking and is another scout suit I've considered just as much as the Gal scout. Again this suit isn't as fast as the Minmatar scout, but that stamina just makes me drool.......Oh sorry, little sidetracked there, but yeah this would be another great assault scout suit. In summation I'm deterring myself from the Amarr because it's not as fast and not as much HP when shield tanking.
And finally for the Minmatar Scout:
As you could've figured out from reading the previous paragraphs, I'm focusing mostly on speed and HP, both of which the Minja succeeds in. However one of the most important and *coolest* features of the minmatar scout are the Nova Knives, which by the will be the only weapon with proficiency that increases the damage in general and not specific to armor or shield (+1 to that). Another thing to consider is the hacking speed, because if you want someone to hack that objective in 1.8 you better be sending your Minjas, who'll be able to hack those points in less than 5 seconds with the investments into hacking speed in addition to the bonus at level 5. However I have to say I'm a little biased towards them since I've been using them ever since I started playing this game and it's possible (lower probability) that I may switch to Gal or Amarr scout. The Minmatar scout can also be a decent assault since it'll have 3 High and 3 Low, allowing you to tank up to 700+ HP, with complex shields and plates, great for assaults.
Hope you learned something.
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.08 06:19:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:How exactly do you come up with 800+ HP for the Caldari scout? Unless I'm wrong, a fully tanked proto cal scout won't even come close to that. Correction! You are quite right. I was looking at something completely different
500 shields and 300 armor yea lol...
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:28:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:i have a feeling i will hate being a scout much less with the TTK increase
but i'm going for amarr sentinel man. dat projectile weapon resistance.
It will be better for scouts since tanking bullets will be easier and that means evading will be better...and that cloak lol
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:41:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I commend you on sticking the Minja.
Thought I think it's safe to say that it will come down to Minmatar/Gallente as best scouts.
The only thing to worry about is the Caldari scout since he seems to be the scout hunter.
Will the Caldari scout be able to pick up the Gal scout on passive scans?
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:44:00 -
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You know what....I'll just get both the Gal and Min Scout. =)
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.09 06:57:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Bormir1r wrote:You know what....I'll just get both the Gal and Min Scout. =) I have both, and honestly I started using my gal a lot more, I can just fit way better stuff on it an always beat the 28, even if we get a full respec I'm getting both again and the cal. Had the min since birth then got gal 5 few months back, but I'm definetly gonna get that cal for shotgunning, minja for knives, an gal for kicking ace! 3 scouts all perfect for different situations
How much SP do you need for getting Gal and Min scouts, including biotics and shield tanking skills?
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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