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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:02:00 -
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We kind of had a Assault vs Logi and Heavy vs Scout with Commando vs nobody
Now in 1.8 the flow seems to be changing a bit, and the Commando will be the best for stand toe to toe with a Sentinel suit.
Other then that, I have no idea who is best when used vs who.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:04:00 -
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The commando will be the go to suit, as it will probably make the assault suit pointless, as you can tank it while having better damage. The gallente scout with remotes seems like a good counter to commandos, but sentinels...
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:19:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:The commando will be the go to suit, as it will probably make the assault suit pointless, as you can tank it while having better damage. The gallente scout with remotes seems like a good counter to commandos, but sentinels...
Yeah, losing the ability to 4 shot a heavy is gonna be sad.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:20:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:The commando will be the go to suit, as it will probably make the assault suit pointless, as you can tank it while having better damage. The gallente scout with remotes seems like a good counter to commandos, but sentinels... Yeah, losing the ability to 4 shot a heavy is gonna be sad.
You're talking about the shotgun..right? Because I can 2 shot them with a headshot and a body shot using the advanced breach.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:21:00 -
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Cloaky Matari scout with nova knives and REs: every heavy
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CommanderBolt
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:24:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Cloaky Matari scout with nova knives and REs: every heavy
I think any cloaky scout + RE`s will certainly be a thorn in the sides of many a heavy.
@ OP How about Caldari Forge gun master race! Mu ha ha ha
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:24:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:The commando will be the go to suit, as it will probably make the assault suit pointless, as you can tank it while having better damage. The gallente scout with remotes seems like a good counter to commandos, but sentinels... Yeah, losing the ability to 4 shot a heavy is gonna be sad. You're talking about the shotgun..right? Because I can 2 shot them with a headshot and a body shot using the advanced breach.
Yes, and to be fair, the breach does out dmg the std shotgun.
I also tend to body shot if I see heavy below advanced.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Beck Weathers
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:28:00 -
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Caldari Scout > everything else, you wont see him coming but he will ALWAYS see you coming.
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:29:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Caldari Scout > everything else, you wont see him coming but he will ALWAYS see you coming.
provided he has proto range amp in his low, scout scan range isn't much without it.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:33:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Caldari Scout > everything else, you wont see him coming but he will ALWAYS see you coming. provided he has proto range amp in his low, scout scan range isn't much without it.
Also he is forgetting about the Galscout...
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:35:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:We kind of had a Assault vs Logi and Heavy vs Scout with Commando vs nobody
Now in 1.8 the flow seems to be changing a bit, and the Commando will be the best for stand toe to toe with a Sentinel suit.
Other then that, I have no idea who is best when used vs who.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
Scout counters heavy
Assault counters scout
Heavy counters assault
Commando.... Can't really say and same goes for logistics 
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:36:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Cloaky Matari scout with nova knives and REs: every heavy I think any cloaky scout + RE`s will certainly be a thorn in the sides of many a heavy. @ OP How about Caldari Forge gun master race! Mu ha ha ha
I think the switch time between cloak and RE is gonna be too long to be a serious problem.
Also, The Caldari heavy is gonna be scary with a FG but dmg mods being changed is gonna be just like a Amarr heavy frame with a FG now(maybe even less since the prof skill is being changed)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:54:00 -
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Interesting thread.
Roughly, I see the Commando and Sentinel as true opposite sides of the same coin and the other suits providing countering actions to each other.
Offensive posture:
1) Commando for tanking through and bringing the fight to the Sentinels
2) Assaults flanking and supporting Commandos or being the general purpose suit
3) Scouts setting conditions for the attack with uplinks and remotes, disrupting other areas to draw away combat power, picking off stragglers
4) Logis keeping the war machine going with pick ups, ammo, scans
Defensive Posture:
1) Sentinels anchoring the defensive positions and strong points
2) Assaults flanking and providing longer range fires to disrupt or take out targets as they enter the Sentinels optimal range (aka Beast Mode).
3) Logis focused on keeping the Sentinel operational with reps/ammo
4) Scouts provide early warning as attackers before attackers penetrate; cloak and move to the points the attackers just left vulnerable as they push to set conditions for counter attack or solo the OBJ.
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Beck Weathers
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:01:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Caldari Scout > everything else, you wont see him coming but he will ALWAYS see you coming. provided he has proto range amp in his low, scout scan range isn't much without it. Also he is forgetting about the Galscout...
Didnt quite forget, but the Gal scout was made to be the cal scouts counter, but I still think the cal scout will be better at finding and killing all the rest of the suits.
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:17:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Cloaky Matari scout with nova knives and REs: every heavy I think any cloaky scout + RE`s will certainly be a thorn in the sides of many a heavy. @ OP How about Caldari Forge gun master race! Mu ha ha ha
Now where does that leave the assault class?
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1992
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:47:00 -
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If you want a jack of all trades a Caldari/Minmatar suit with a CR or SCR/Magsec is the best choice.
To counter heavy armor a MD/RR/Magsec is the best choice
To counter shields a SCR is the best choice.
To counter heavies a Dual tanked commando with a SCR and Magsec
To counter commandos grenades and a MD.
Scouts idk.
Medium suits a heavy with a HMG.
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Marc Rime
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:51:00 -
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There may be changes we've not been told of yet, but I'd say:
Any suit that is driving a tank will be best for countering... well... anything.
EDIT: Damn, just realized what I did there. Sorry, please ignore this post, I didn't mean to derail the thread. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:52:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:We kind of had a Assault vs Logi and Heavy vs Scout with Commando vs nobody
Now in 1.8 the flow seems to be changing a bit, and the Commando will be the best for stand toe to toe with a Sentinel suit.
Other then that, I have no idea who is best when used vs who.
Anybody have any thoughts on this? Scout counters heavy Assault counters scout Heavy counters assault Commando.... Can't really say and same goes for logistics
Logi plus heavy destroys all  as I posted in a similar thread I want a Gal or Amarr sentinel with my Cal commando and a minmatar logi backing us up. Then I want free roaming and nibbling at the enemy while telling us wha the enemy is doing.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:56:00 -
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I will counter them all in speedy Gallente Sentinel.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:02:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:I will counter them all in speedy Gallente Sentinel.
KinCats on a GalSentinel is like roller skates on a turtle.
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