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Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1972	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:08:00 - [1] - Quote Why are people complaining that 'CR will be bad against shields'? Sure, proficiency changes. But CR = 95% against shields. Well. MD/MSMG 514 Yes, my butt is aching. I'm going to the doctor soon; hopefully he can recommend a good anaesthetic.
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 141	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:19:00 - [2] - Quote Wow, the assault CR will do less than 20 dmg per bullet and the burst will probably do less than 25 without dmg mods. Wait til after 1.8 to see okay. I'm really tired of looking at all these threads that people keep making about useless speculation. Stop complaining, get a grip, and just wait to try 1.8 before you throw a tantrum about this or that.... "oh noooo's cr still does too much to shield, nerf it moar NAOW!!!"
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1972	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:22:00 - [3] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: Wow, the assault CR will do less than 20 dmg per bullet and the burst will probably do less than 25 without dmg mods. Wait til after 1.8 to see okay. I'm really tired of looking at all these threads that people keep making about useless speculation. Stop complaining, get a grip, and just wait before to try 1.8 before you throw a tantrum about this or that.... "oh noooo's cr still does too much to shield, nerf it moar NAOW!!!" lol@ useless speculation RR was gonna have an even shorter charge time until we QQed about it. Please click link in OP. We're pretty reliable about our QQ these days - community predictions tend to pan out. MD/MSMG 514 Yes, my butt is aching. I'm going to the doctor soon; hopefully he can recommend a good anaesthetic.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1028	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:49:00 - [4] - Quote a CR took out my shields of 600 in 2 seconds from 80m away. thats just wrong YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 345	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:54:00 - [5] - Quote I killed a guy today that never moved, maybe afk( sniper) 137 m cr Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1986	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:54:00 - [6] - Quote Actually in 1.8 the CR and ACR will be the best weapons to use since tanking with a single style will mean your screwed and it has the best damage profile and second best range. The second best weapon will be the RR just because it's range will allow you to take your time melting shields then complete obliteration of armor. For the Federation!
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1028	Posted - 2014.03.07 12:03:00 - [7] - Quote a CR took out my shields of 600 in 2 seconds from 80m away. thats just wrong YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1028	Posted - 2014.03.07 12:04:00 - [8] - Quote a CR took out my shields of 600 in 2 seconds from 80m away. thats just wrong YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7194	Posted - 2014.03.07 12:06:00 - [9] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: Wow, the assault CR will do less than 20 dmg per bullet and the burst will probably do less than 25 without dmg mods. Wait til after 1.8 to see okay. I'm really tired of looking at all these threads that people keep making about useless speculation. Stop complaining, get a grip, and just wait before to try 1.8 before you throw a tantrum about this or that.... "oh noooo's cr still does too much to shield, nerf it moar NAOW!!!" lol@ useless speculation RR was gonna have an even shorter charge time until we QQed about it. Please click link in OP. We're pretty reliable about our QQ these days - community predictions tend to pan out. My QQ detector is relentless, I instantly find problems that the community QQ's about months later Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 661	Posted - 2014.03.07 12:11:00 - [10] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Actually in 1.8 the CR and ACR will be the best weapons to use since tanking with a single style will mean your screwed and it has the best damage profile and second best range. The second best weapon will be the RR just because it's range will allow you to take your time melting shields then complete obliteration of armor. Well I wouldn't say the best weapon but maybe the best rifles, remember the HMG did not get any sort of adjustment and will clearly have the highest DPS of all automatic weapons. Sure its range is somewhat limited but from my experiences so far its not that bad. Coupled with the new sentinal bonus the HMG will be really scary.

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1988	Posted - 2014.03.07 12:32:00 - [11] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Actually in 1.8 the CR and ACR will be the best weapons to use since tanking with a single style will mean your screwed and it has the best damage profile and second best range. The second best weapon will be the RR just because it's range will allow you to take your time melting shields then complete obliteration of armor. Well I wouldn't say the best weapon but maybe the best rifles, remember the HMG did not get any sort of adjustment and will clearly have the highest DPS of all automatic weapons. Sure its range is somewhat limited but from my experiences so far its not that bad. Coupled with the new sentinal bonus the HMG will be really scary. Specially with the heavies high HP and quick turning speed it will take more than two people to kill one. For the Federation!
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 651	Posted - 2014.03.07 13:58:00 - [12] - Quote People that say that the CR will be bad against shields with the new proficiency bonuses are either woefully or willfully ignorant. Now is the winter of our non-content. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 78	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:11:00 - [13] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: People that say that the CR will be bad against shields with the new proficiency bonuses are either woefully or willfully ignorant. My standerd cr melts everything atm, level 1, it needed a nerf
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 1971	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:42:00 - [14] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: a CR took out my shields of 600 in 2 seconds from 80m away. thats just wrong Just be glad it wasn't an Imperial... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1551	Posted - 2014.03.07 15:44:00 - [15] - Quote As an AR user all the CR QQ is pathetic. CR has longer range, higher DPS, and AR proficiency ONLY helps against shields, which there is far less of in this game. Ion pistol in 1.8? Really, is that it? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
huopiang Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:42:00 - [16] - Quote The std CR is fine. It has a short range and requires a bit of aiming skill since it's not a full auto. Sure it's powerful but it's not OP IMO The RR on the other hand is massively Op
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 815	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:02:00 - [17] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: a CR took out my shields of 600 in 2 seconds from 80m away. thats just wrong Was your Raven equipped with the following? Best PVE idea I've seen.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10657	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:35:00 - [18] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: a CR took out my shields of 600 in 2 seconds from 80m away. thats just wrong Just be glad it wasn't an Imperial... Conveniently for you two, in 1.8 the Imperial/Viziam may still do this... But it won't be able to scratch your armour. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 290	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:51:00 - [19] - Quote Why isn't the CR 80% shields and 120% armor? Wouldn't it be better, balance-wise? I'm really curious as to why it's the odd man out in comparison to the other weapons.
Tectonic Fusion 1197	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:26:00 - [20] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: a CR took out my shields of 600 in 2 seconds from 80m away. thats just wrong In those 2 seconds (unless you were derping in the open) you could have leaped to cover. Hagintora wrote: Why isn't the CR 80% shields and 120% armor? Wouldn't it be better, balance-wise? I'm really curious as to why it's the odd man out in comparison to the other weapons. BECAUSE MINMATAR BIATCH! Solo Player Squad status: Locked

Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 534	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:15:00 - [21] - Quote A disturbingly large amount of people on these forums seem to have forgotten that shields have been broke since they buffed armor (at least since then, maybe earlier, can't quite remember) all those patches ago. If you are counting on shields for any kind of protection, im sorry but you are a moron. I run two extenders on my min proto assault for the simple fact there is literally nothing else to put in a high slot, and 4 damage mods is a little over the top, even for the current build. Although a 4th damage mod is probably way more useful than any amount of shield extenders atm. On the flipside, the AR, ScR, and IP (among other weapons) will fall off the map, since armor is the only way to HP, and said weapons prof vs armor will, for all intents and purposes, be 0. Add the fact they are cutting the effectivness of damage mods (finally, though i think a 1 or 2 mod limit per suit would have have been a better route) and a lack of prof vs the only real hp option in the game becomes huge. Honestly it was a real bonehead move for CCP to enact these changes without fixing shields first. But it is CCP, so i guess they have to leave the door open to swing the game wildly in a different direction next patch. I haven't failed 10,000 times, i've successfully found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas Edison
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 843	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:48:00 - [22] - Quote With proficiency changes Minmatar projectile weapons become the best generalist weapon Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.


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