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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7185	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:55:00 - [1] - Quote While it having more DPS and range than the AR is annoying, there is another thing that is problematic. It's damage profile. Why does the combat rifle get -5% to shields and +10% to armor, instead of -10% to shields? With the prof nerf and damage mods nerfed, this means that weapons like the SCR will have a problem chewing through armor. RR will have a problem to chew through shields. AR will have a problem to chew through armor. (Though not as much as SCR) This means that when you reach the other damage type, you hit a brick wall. But not with the Combat Rifle. You take a very light hit in terms of damage, half of what the AR and RR get hit with, and 1/4th of what the SCR gets hit with. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7187	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:06:00 - [2] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: The DPS on CR is still good, as that is what is is intended for The bullets are weak, but the RoF is high to make up for that So yes the CR will be badass But that is assuming you hit every shot CR lacks the range of RR it lacks the OHK of ScR and it is not as reliable as AR which is more accurate along with larger clipsize Can we please wait until 1.8 before OP complaints The CR has more range than AR. Hence it should have lower DPS. "But that is assuming you hit every shot" Actually, since it has lower damage per bullet, missing a bullet hurts less than missing with an AR or RR or especially an SCR. So that's actually a +. CR beats the AR in range. Neither CR nor AR have OHK. It's even more reliable than AR, it reloads faster, has more range, tighter hipfire, missing doesn't hurt as much, etc'. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7187	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:07:00 - [3] - Quote Horizen Kenpachi wrote: I use them now and there great but it still chews ammo fast and killing a group with out reloading is impossible rail rifle can take out a mcc in one clip as with the scr Killing groups is possible, just smaller groups. (1 less person for the most part) Plus it reloads faster, so you can get back in the action faster. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7189	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:17:00 - [4] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: We have not seen how the weapons function... and considering the CR does half the DMG of other rifles There is no way to make a call on how they will work The CR is a rifle variant of the SMG I think it's safe to say a weapon based on SMG should have higher DPS than the other rifles And you act like the range difference is huge... It is barely noticeable between AR/CR Neither of us have a right to argue this As I am clearly biased towards CR And your are biased towards AR We need to wait til 1.8 and find out how they work The AR has not under performed half as much as what has been claimed on forum since 1.7 If you want the highest DPS? Have the lowest range. You can't have both, why do you think the RR was hit as hard as it did? The CR has 11m more range than the AR. That's significant, because that means in every meter while inside the AR's effective range, the CR has less % of the damage taken out, meaning that it's more effective overall after the AR reaches it's optimal range. I was in a PC match a couple of days ago. There was not a single AR on any side. Not a single one. Nada. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7196	Posted - 2014.03.07 12:34:00 - [5] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: the "it has higher range so it should have lower dps" argument is bullshit. This would only be true if all the weapons fired like the AR, absolutely perfect. But the ACR fires perfectly like the AR Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

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