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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5392	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:20:00 - [1] - Quote You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? Wondering if they are going to fix vehicles? Well I've got news for you. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are no plans for the patch on changing vehicles, however we can continue to discuss possible changes via hotfixes afterwards. Straight from the "DevHangout" channel. -HAND lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1831	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:21:00 - [2] - Quote Your **** posting needs leveling 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 772	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:26:00 - [3] - Quote Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait...
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1458	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:26:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? Wondering if they are going to fix vehicles? Well I've got news for you. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are no plans for the patch on changing vehicles, however we can continue to discuss possible changes via hotfixes afterwards. Straight from the "DevHangout" channel. -HAND so after 3 months of data collecting, they have determined that current tank-AV balance is Working As Intended? Respec in 1.8 due to huge battlefield role shift for MinLogi! All my posts are respec posts (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ LockmeBro!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7953	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:27:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? Wondering if they are going to fix vehicles? Well I've got news for you. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are no plans for the patch on changing vehicles, however we can continue to discuss possible changes via hotfixes afterwards. Straight from the "DevHangout" channel. -HAND Tanker proceed to face palm through his own head!....Good god I want to go back to when tanking required skill... "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1832	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:40:00 - [6] - Quote RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Jack Kittinger Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 172	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:40:00 - [7] - Quote Dump ALL the SP's into HAV!!! not talking about a SP refund just the points I saved for a rainy day, pff of course there SHOULD be a refund but it's ccp we're about here ad hoc Even if hotfixes are the only thing that might be in store for vehicles, we have yet to see how much the feedback pushes them to change little things and luckily, maybe, they'll break them just the way vehicles constantly falling thru the map or spontaneously xploding makes bpo only vehicles viable. This might not be the update we expected, or contributed feedback for, but it sure looks like it's gonna be crazy. Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!! Lucky Number 29
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2552	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:49:00 - [8] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. True, you can't nerf MLT tanks cause then we have less options to deal with tanks and only stands to make maddys and Gunnys harder to kill. Tanks need tweaking, not nerfing. Honestly, it's the mods themselves and they way they fit that makes it a problem. Not to mention, most AV is garbage. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 701	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:54:00 - [9] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. 2 simple solutions that wouldn't make it worse. 1. Slow down tanks 2. Buff prox mines. Tanks can't just run away any more so they are more cautious entering combat and will likely leave earlier because they can't just truck over prox mines with no worries and will still catch a few FG rounds up the tailpipe along the way. CCP your matchmaking still sucks. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1460	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:59:00 - [10] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. True, you can't nerf MLT tanks cause then we have less options to deal with tanks and only stands to make maddys and Gunnys harder to kill. Tanks need tweaking, not nerfing. Honestly, it's the mods themselves and they way they fit that makes it a problem. Not to mention, most AV is garbage. This makes it doubly tricky though- dropships rely on the same set of modules, and they're in a pretty good place balance-wise (except lolrails). Ditto AV- buff it too much to deal with HAVs, and suddenly LAVs and dropships are useless coffins. Respec in 1.8 due to huge battlefield role shift for MinLogi! All my posts are respec posts (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ LockmeBro!

Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 1956	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:04:00 - [11] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: so after 3 months of data collecting, they have determined that current tank-AV balance is Working As Intended? Not quite. After 3 months of data collecting, they have determined that current tank-AV balanced needed an indirect AV nerf. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 811	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:04:00 - [12] - Quote Jack Kittinger wrote: This might not be the update we expected, or contributed feedback for, but it sure looks like it's gonna be crazy. That's beautiful, man. That statement compresses it into a condensed cube of purest truth and puts it in a nutshell. Munch Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:05:00 - [13] - Quote AKA they might tune some things but they won't have any big nerfs or boosts. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1927	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:06:00 - [14] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. 2 simple solutions that wouldn't make it worse. 1. Slow down tanks 2. Buff prox mines. Tanks can't just run away any more so they are more cautious entering combat and will likely leave earlier because they can't just truck over prox mines with no worries and will still catch a few FG rounds up the tailpipe along the way. Remove sound from Proxis. Make them blow up faster. Give REs/Proxis X2 damage to vehicles My opinion on how RE and RE variants can be made AV worthy. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2025	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:35:00 - [15] - Quote tanking used to be hard. there were like 25 of us in chrome and 15 until 1.7. Now it'shard to tell who the fotmers are...in fact, it's mostly fotmers. the true blue tankers are all but gone. i dont even play anymore, really... ruined my good name, 1.7 did. i refuse to be a fotm fa88ot. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5394	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:41:00 - [16] - Quote Update: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: Sorry to be so repettive, but has CCP commented on the stealth AV nerf?] No, but I have been poking them about it Straight from DevHangout. Perhaps there's hope after all? lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7960	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:42:00 - [17] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: tanking used to be hard. there were like 25 of us in chrome and 15 until 1.7. Now it'shard to tell who the fotmers are...in fact, it's mostly fotmers. the true blue tankers are all but gone. i dont even play anymore, really... ruined my good name, 1.7 did. i refuse to be a fotm fa88ot. I've been tanking since I discovered the joy in 1.3.....I still tank even now.... and I get so much hate for it....because the older tankers aren't around to shame me back into place I have games where I get ridiculous scores.... "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5394	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:43:00 - [18] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Your **** posting needs leveling Not really. I'm just posting a quick message from what I saw. If you don't have anything constructive to offer, then please leave. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5394	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:52:00 - [19] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Your **** posting needs leveling Just looked up the definition of "$#!t Posting" How's this for you? lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 361	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:05:00 - [20] - Quote Though its unneeded, I'll vouch for this. Was sitting in the Dev Hangout during this. "Increasing TTK on rifles meant they needed to make it so grenades wouldn't just be the go to response to kill people, which inadvertently nerfed AV" because CCP is laser-focused on one problem at a time that they never notice what other problems they are creating. The quotes are paraphrasing a response I got from IWS, after is me being an @$$. See how quick the community found this issue. Every time CCP announces something, the community is able to find things the Devs overlook. Wanna know why... You have hundreds of people looking at the same stats, all formulating opinions and strategies the second you give us data. We find the holes in the design. If CCP would work with the community, these problems could be avoided. Of course, everyone has been saying that for forever. Viva la tankspam until after Fan fest at the earliest. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!

Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 1956	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:09:00 - [21] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Of course, everyone has been saying that for forever. Viva la tankspam until after Fan fest at the earliest. I guess that means my HMG fatty will be OP until October? :sigh: Believe it or not, I'm really not looking forward to it. The thing was pretty much balanced. I happen to like balance. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
BattleCry1791 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 455	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:14:00 - [22] - Quote I'm a "I have an alt for that" kinda player. My 3rd alt, sp wise, is my tanker. No boosters but he been maxed out a few times for SP and been cooking since the beta, so he's got proto rails and most Tank things to level 5. I'm not an elite tanker by any means, but I can get the job done, mostly tank v tank with a damage modded gunnlogi Here's my two bits: the REAL tanks are fine the MLT tanks are way too buffed AV is beyond crap unless it's proto, and even then good luck...swarm lock on time, forge spool up time...the tanks are out of the picture before you can unload on them. Fact is the hardners broke tanking/AV. That's where the problem is. Every tanker worth anything knows he's in trouble if he sees another tank and his hardner is down. That's where the problem lies. I'm not saying nerf it or remove it, I'm just saying that's where the problem stems from. They'd ban me, but I'm too funny and more importantly, I'm right.
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 83	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:17:00 - [23] - Quote BattleCry1791 wrote: I'm a "I have an alt for that" kinda player. My 3rd alt, sp wise, is my tanker. No boosters but he been maxed out a few times for SP and been cooking since the beta, so he's got proto rails and most Tank things to level 5. I'm not an elite tanker by any means, but I can get the job done, mostly tank v tank with a damage modded gunnlogi Here's my two bits: the REAL tanks are fine the MLT tanks are way too buffed AV is beyond crap unless it's proto, and even then good luck...swarm lock on time, forge spool up time...the tanks are out of the picture before you can unload on them. Fact is the hardners broke tanking/AV. That's where the problem is. Every tanker worth anything knows he's in trouble if he sees another tank and his hardner is down. That's where the problem lies. I'm not saying nerf it or remove it, I'm just saying that's where the problem stems from. tanks are fine. Modules are the problem. The only variation between MLT ans PRO is cooldown and fitting costs. Speed is only a minor problem for me but needs a tweak.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 363	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:21:00 - [24] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: Of course, everyone has been saying that for forever. Viva la tankspam until after Fan fest at the earliest. I guess that means my HMG fatty will be OP until October? :sigh: Believe it or not, I'm really not looking forward to it. The thing was pretty much balanced. I happen to like balance. I personally think everyone is putting too much stock in Heavies being OP. People that know what they are doing will be OP. mr mustard is an amazing Scout, always has been, Scouts must be OP, always have been. There will be plenty FotM Heavies running around who will still get wrecked. The Heavies that were destroying before the HMG buff will be god-like, but not gods. You can still die. xSivartx, my personal Heavy, will be a beast, but if I pick up a Heavy suit, I'll still be pretty bad. If its just a bunch of RR, CR, AR, ScR Heavies, maybe they will be OP. Most people will adapt. I've been enjoying Heavy fights since they 'fixed' the HMG. I'm scared to fight a Heavy, just like back in Chrome. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 48	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:21:00 - [25] - Quote I just hope that this happens- With the new and shiney guns and suits, tankers will stop being tankers for a time and enjoy the new OP FOTM before it is gone If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 775	Posted - 2014.03.07 09:55:00 - [26] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. I have no idea where you get the idea of this 'simple solutions'-thing, but with the current info released it looks like they give a **** about player feedback,... Then again...maybe I might be surprised that they will finally use this "hot fix"-stuff they are talking about for a long time since they don't have the excuse for being busy on 1.8.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 934	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:09:00 - [27] - Quote AV is not as bad as lazy Dust bunnies make it out to be 'oh I need a Wirikomi Swram or Ishukone AFG w/complex mods' The above statement is only applied to guys wanting to 1v1 HAV's Any tier of AV gear will work if you Co-ordinate it well.... - Feint attack, this is most important as you must engage the vehicle then last out his hardener duration until you have a window to take them out - Baiting, Lure them into a trap Nothing annoys me more than a FG tickling a HAV at range This gives the HAV good reason not to approach and reduces the chances of other AV assisting before the HAV retreats to safezone and cycles I have began starting games with my first thoughts being AV There is no other way to combat it, if you are un-prepared... you die 'D1CK by name' 'D1CK by nature'
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 655	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:10:00 - [28] - Quote Atiim wrote: You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? Wondering if they are going to fix vehicles? Well I've got news for you. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are no plans for the patch on changing vehicles, however we can continue to discuss possible changes via hotfixes afterwards. Straight from the "DevHangout" channel. Update: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: Sorry to be so repettive, but has CCP commented on the stealth AV nerf?] No, but I have been poking them about it Straight from DevHangout. Perhaps there's hope after all? -HAND In that case I highly doubt there is any sort of hope. CCP is on a good way to scare even the hardest fans away from dust. Maybe CCP will be happy if the only thing left will be HAVs and may be Heavies
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 418	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:11:00 - [29] - Quote CCP just wants to sell more aurum tanks. Shanghai is so horrible at this whole "game development" thing.
Gabriel Ceja Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 2	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:42:00 - [30] - Quote Take a look at this, I believe this would be a good solution to adress the problem with tanks. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1858385#post1858385 My tank is my dropsuit, it's kinda like your dropsuit...umm Only bigger, but just a little. :)

deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 215	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:50:00 - [31] - Quote This news is very disheartening. 1.8 had the potential to bring hundreds of players who had quit back to the game. Now it seems they will just be spawning in to have tanks shoved up their shiny new suits back door and leave again. Personally it makes me want to go back to AFKing like I did as a newbie while hanging out with friends in chat lines. I had just talked a friend who quit the game 6 months ago into coming back and I will be telling him not to bother and continue collecting passive thanks to this. The funny part is he was about to buy up boosters and Aurum equipment to catch up with me.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1979	Posted - 2014.03.07 15:18:00 - [32] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. True, you can't nerf MLT tanks cause then we have less options to deal with tanks and only stands to make maddys and Gunnys harder to kill. Tanks need tweaking, not nerfing. Honestly, it's the mods themselves and they way they fit that makes it a problem. Not to mention, most AV is garbage. ^This SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 448	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:28:00 - [33] - Quote Hmm, hmmm, so here is what I foresee: 1. The introduction of all racial heavy dropsuits will make many players return to Dust. 2. The increased HAV-problem will drive them back right away. Mission accomplished CCP, increase in player base averted. Now you can begin your work on making Dust 2.0 a failure too. If you're interested in constructive feedback, I'll just quote this: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Welcome to discussion 4 months ago.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1380	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:10:00 - [34] - Quote Atiim wrote: You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? Wondering if they are going to fix vehicles? Well I've got news for you. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are no plans for the patch on changing vehicles, however we can continue to discuss possible changes via hotfixes afterwards. Straight from the "DevHangout" channel. Update: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: Sorry to be so repettive, but has CCP commented on the stealth AV nerf?] No, but I have been poking them about it Straight from DevHangout. Perhaps there's hope after all? -HAND PROTEST A Day Without Infantry Pick a day when no Infantry will play for 24 hours CCP does not care about forum feedback so lets give them a not playing today event feedback Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 195	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:09:00 - [35] - Quote Atiim wrote: You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? Wondering if they are going to fix vehicles? Well I've got news for you. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are no plans for the patch on changing vehicles, however we can continue to discuss possible changes via hotfixes afterwards. Straight from the "DevHangout" channel. Update: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: Sorry to be so repettive, but has CCP commented on the stealth AV nerf?] No, but I have been poking them about it Straight from DevHangout. Perhaps there's hope after all? -HAND If nothing is being done about vehicles and AV balance then all the other 1.8 updates are a complete waste of time .. I may as well biomass now and go play something else .. how the hell can they not fix something that is clearly unbalanced after forcing us through it for 3 + months is beyond me .. No SP Refund + No changes to Vehicles/AV is a complete and utter fail
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 1035	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:16:00 - [36] - Quote You want a real solution to tanks? Cut tank damage mods to 10%. Cut Shield hardeners to 30% Cut armor hardeners to 30% Boom. Tanks are fixed. Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2618	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:22:00 - [37] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: AV is not as bad as lazy Dust bunnies make it out to be 'oh I need a Wirikomi Swram or Ishukone AFG w/complex mods' The above statement is only applied to guys wanting to 1v1 HAV's Any tier of AV gear will work if you Co-ordinate it well.... - Feint attack, this is most important as you must engage the vehicle then last out his hardener duration until you have a window to take them out - Baiting, Lure them into a trap Nothing annoys me more than a FG tickling a HAV at range This gives the HAV good reason not to approach and reduces the chances of other AV assisting before the HAV retreats to safezone and cycles I have began starting games with my first thoughts being AV There is no other way to combat it, if you are un-prepared... you die Except feinting doesnt work so well when the tank can drive into the redline and you are completely cut off and baiting doesnt work so well when the tank can pop a hardener and cruise off into the sunset while you are locking and charging up I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 162	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:37:00 - [38] - Quote I'm killing tanks so many different ways now and I still haven't had to resort to carbombs. 1.8, I'll find a way.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 148	Posted - 2014.03.07 22:01:00 - [39] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: AV is not as bad as lazy Dust bunnies make it out to be 'oh I need a Wirikomi Swram or Ishukone AFG w/complex mods' The above statement is only applied to guys wanting to 1v1 HAV's Any tier of AV gear will work if you Co-ordinate it well.... - Feint attack, this is most important as you must engage the vehicle then last out his hardener duration until you have a window to take them out - Baiting, Lure them into a trap Nothing annoys me more than a FG tickling a HAV at range This gives the HAV good reason not to approach and reduces the chances of other AV assisting before the HAV retreats to safezone and cycles I have began starting games with my first thoughts being AV There is no other way to combat it, if you are un-prepared... you die No offense to you or your statements I agree with them entirely, BUT when you are playing in pubs or FW with people who barely can scratch their own ass without having an epic fail, I don't think coordination is going to happen. Also, the true issue of tanking are the rail tanks that can kill from 600 meters. If these tanks were limited down some say to 400m dropships would be able to come in and clean out most of the problematic tanks, or at the very least the rail tanks would not be able to hide behind the red line on a hill sniping nearly the entire map. The tanks that come by with the blasters, yeah they can kill infantry and tanks but they have limits on range and can be taken out much easier by dropships. The blaster tanks are typically the bulls of the battlefield, short range, can take a lot of damage, but crap on range. Missile tanks well....not so sure about them, only see them every so often and they aren't just blazing through the battle field. Though both of these types of tanks people can take out rather well, set up traps and all (though tank speed should be less and proxies should do more damage) The main and true problem of the game are the Rail tanks.
BattleCry1791 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 461	Posted - 2014.03.08 00:13:00 - [40] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: CCP just wants to sell more aurum tanks. Shanghai is so horrible at this whole "game development" thing. Think of how much money this tank fiasco has actually cost them. Before 1.7 it was very common to see Aurum tanks on the battlefield, now with the MLT's being almost as good as the ADV tanks, why spend the money when the MLT isk cost is so low? They'd ban me, but I'm too funny and more importantly, I'm right.

Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1841	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:04:00 - [41] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. True, you can't nerf MLT tanks cause then we have less options to deal with tanks and only stands to make maddys and Gunnys harder to kill. Tanks need tweaking, not nerfing. Honestly, it's the mods themselves and they way they fit that makes it a problem. Not to mention, most AV is garbage. Exactly. The mods were done horribly. If the mods were fixed, and little things on the AV side were adjusted, then all would be fine. That's why I made this 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1841	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:06:00 - [42] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: RKKR wrote: Long live the player feedback! Ooh wait... Simple solutions won't solve it; just would make it worse. 2 simple solutions that wouldn't make it worse. 1. Slow down tanks 2. Buff prox mines. Tanks can't just run away any more so they are more cautious entering combat and will likely leave earlier because they can't just truck over prox mines with no worries and will still catch a few FG rounds up the tailpipe along the way. Depends on how much you mean by buff and nerf. Also, the speed isn't the problem anyways; it's more of the acceleration. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1841	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:10:00 - [43] - Quote Atiim wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Your ** posting needs leveling Just looked up the definition of "$#!t Posting" How's this for you? Still ** posting, as you know what kind of response this will cause; actually, you want it to happen. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 300	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:12:00 - [44] - Quote Thats nothing, what they should do i complete revamp of AV weapons, the tank-**** is pretty horendous in 1.7 Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1841	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:17:00 - [45] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: You want a real solution to tanks? Cut tank damage mods to 10%. Cut Shield hardeners to 30% Cut armor hardeners to 30% Boom. Tanks are fixed. No, they'll still be broken. Think about **** before pulling it out your ass 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5414	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:43:00 - [46] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: No, they'll still be broken. Think about **** before pulling it out your ass That's quite entertaining coming from you. However nobody likes a hypocrite, so your suggestion should be taken with a grain of salt. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5414	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:47:00 - [47] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Atiim wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Your ** posting needs leveling Just looked up the definition of "$#!t Posting" How's this for you? Still ** posting, as you know what kind of response this will cause; actually, you want it to happen. Oh yes. I sit at my desk everyday just plotting on how I can turn the DUST 514 forums into a massive $#!tstorm, whilst curling my evil mustache and laughing manically. Nope. It couldn't possibly be me informing everyone that vehicles won't be changed in 1.8. Nope not at all. I'm clearly trying to start a forum uproar. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1841	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:53:00 - [48] - Quote Atiim wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Atiim wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Your ** posting needs leveling Just looked up the definition of "$#!t Posting" How's this for you? Still posting, as you know what kind of response this will cause; actually, you want it to happen. Oh yes. I sit at my desk everyday just plotting on how I can turn the DUST 514 forums into a massive $#!tstorm, whilst curling my evil mustache and laughing manically. Nope. It couldn't possibly be me informing everyone that vehicles won't be changed in 1.8. Nope not at all. I'm clearly trying to start a forum uproar. If you don't see how this is ** posting, read this 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Rusty Shallows 1066	Posted - 2014.03.08 01:57:00 - [49] - Quote Atiim wrote: You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? snip I was not looking forward to being forced to stack complex damage mods on a Caladri Sentinel. It would have been an illusionary comfort since Infantry AV isn't something one should pull outside tight squads. Having AV dependent on one high-slot module was a terrible design flaw in this game. The old Amar Basic Heavy Frame > Amar Sentinel being one example, another Winmatar Assault Frames and Proto Swarms. Whatever the "fix" is it must be elsewhere. So yes it is a big nerf on the AV side but I'll breath a little easier knowing someone in a Medium Frame won't be insta-kacking me with hit-scan to the face. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1889	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:02:00 - [50] - Quote By name and by nature we are the same. Wife tells me I am one all the time and so do my friends, they love me and think I am a pimp or a genius but they all call me a **** and it is because I am, you think I'm mouthy on this forum? You should meet me in RL, I am a pretty fun guy if you can get past my blatant disregard for political correctness and my openly bigoted attitude. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke

The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1889	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:08:00 - [51] - Quote Atiim wrote: You guys concerned about the Damage Modifier and AV Grenade nerf? The mod nerf doesn't really change the DPS of AV enough for me to be concerned about, I would rather see weapon specific mods that buff AV harder than the generic damage mods. The AV Grenade is a bit different. I use a PLC, prox and AV nades on my AV suit so taking grenades away does hurt because they are the gap filler because proxs are can't always be put in the correct places ahead of time. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5417	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:31:00 - [52] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: If you don't see how this is ** posting, read this From what I gather, the term "$#!t posting" refers to: Quote: 1: The failure to make a constructive post 2: The inability to add useful information to a forum 3: Worthless overly offensive generally racists posts written in a manner which aggravates others. Let's break this down. 1: My post is constructive, as it holds (and maintains) a truthful and relevant topic, while refraining from flaming or insulting others 2: My post does provide useful information to the forum, as it informs people about a topic that nobody had a definite confirmation of. 3: Not really sure how the original post could be considered offensive, and/or racist. Ironically however, the definition(s) of "$#!t posting" are all present in your threads to ~~nerf~~ remove the 'Jihad Jeep', as well as your replies within this thread Which brings me back to my first reply: Atiim wrote:** That's quite entertaining coming from you. However nobody likes a hypocrite, so your suggestion should be taken with a grain of salt. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven 1468	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:35:00 - [53] - Quote Are you serious? Nothing? NOTHING is being changed about vehicles in 1.8? So ~3 months of this vehicle absurdity and CCP decides all is Working as Intended? Seriously, F-ck you CCP. Let me play you the song of my people!
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 628	Posted - 2014.03.08 03:44:00 - [54] - Quote Seriously AV is so broken that our regulars are often raging off after the constant tank spam. It's just not enjoyable to play the game with things so broken on this front. Personally I will only be caping to 1.8 is released and I hope they throw in some tweaks for the release since small changes could make all the difference. Reduce acceleration. Reduce hardners some and increase their cool down. Increase militia tanks ISK cost a bit. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1933	Posted - 2014.03.08 03:45:00 - [55] - Quote And the next thread to pop up... CPM is Worthless. Oh, the irony this forum has.. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.


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