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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1933
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:37:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:How is it that a titanium sabot round shot out of the RR out ranges amplified light (read LASER) from the ScR?
I would assume the muzzle velocity of the RR is around 1200m/s which is 2684.32 mph. The muzzle velocity of the ScR is 186,000 miles per second which is 669,600,000 mph. Gravity over time would pull the titanium round out of the air (bullet drop). While gravity does have an effect on light, unless the source of gravity is extremely strong (black hole, neutron star), the laser produced by the ScR should out range every single last thing on the battlefield. Technically, if bullet travel time was introduced into DUST, the ScR would essentially have none unless CCP wanted to be super technical and crunch the numbers on how long it took for light to travel say 60m - hint, online calculators can't even crunch the number.
So the question stands, why does a titanium round moving at 2684.32 mph out range a beam of light moving at 669,600,000 mph?
Dispersion. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1937
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:44:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:How is it that a titanium sabot round shot out of the RR out ranges amplified light (read LASER) from the ScR?
I would assume the muzzle velocity of the RR is around 1200m/s which is 2684.32 mph. The muzzle velocity of the ScR is 186,000 miles per second which is 669,600,000 mph. Gravity over time would pull the titanium round out of the air (bullet drop). While gravity does have an effect on light, unless the source of gravity is extremely strong (black hole, neutron star), the laser produced by the ScR should out range every single last thing on the battlefield. Technically, if bullet travel time was introduced into DUST, the ScR would essentially have none unless CCP wanted to be super technical and crunch the numbers on how long it took for light to travel say 60m - hint, online calculators can't even crunch the number.
So the question stands, why does a titanium round moving at 2684.32 mph out range a beam of light moving at 669,600,000 mph?
Dispersion. Yes I know about dispersion, but the beam being emitted by the ScR is far stronger and has more focusing mirrors than say your average laser pointer which has around a 2000 yard range which is 1828 meters.
A standard laser pointer can't even burn paper at point blank. Ask yourself why we don't have laser weapons heavily in our real life militaries yet. The main reason is dispersion causing the beam intensity to drop off dramatically with the amount of air passed through. So, it isn't so much a speed thing, as a range thing. Firing a laser through air causes a lot of the energy in the beam to bleed off the more distant the target is. The more powerful the beam, the more dispersion will bleed off energy as well. To actually do military value damage, you need a very high power beam to overcome this. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1941
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:53:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:If we can use lasers from kilometers away to shoot down missiles by hitting their detonators. I'm pretty sure in the far future we would be able to overcome atmospheric refraction and make viable handheld laser weapons. They have super conductors that allows the forge gun to fire rounds at 7 times the speed of sound from a man portable weapon. Pretty sure they can build a laser weapon lethal at kilometers.
True, but then again, in a "real life" equivalent of this game, wouldn't they just nuke it all from orbit.
To be sure.
Not a very fun game then though.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1941
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:58:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Fraceska wrote:If we can use lasers from kilometers away to shoot down missiles by hitting their detonators. I'm pretty sure in the far future we would be able to overcome atmospheric refraction and make viable handheld laser weapons. They have super conductors that allows the forge gun to fire rounds at 7 times the speed of sound from a man portable weapon. Pretty sure they can build a laser weapon lethal at kilometers. True, but then again, in a "real life" equivalent of this game, wouldn't they just nuke it all from orbit. To be sure. Not a very fun game then though. Not unless you have a way to preserve all the infrastructure that you're actually fighting over. Which makes OBs seem really out of place. Every time you fight over a district and a single OB is used you would have to rebuild. Those weapons would just incinerate everything. Also at those levels of power leave behind a fair amount of lethal radiation. So you would also need a way to soak that up as well. To much of a burden to use OBs as anything other than a last resort kind of weapon.
Let me phrase this more simply, without my Aliens reference.
If you have the tech to put a combat ship in orbit, you've already won the ground battle. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1943
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Posted - 2014.03.06 22:10:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Also, the Scrambler does not do damage in the way of a typical laser. It uses the laser to induce a channel of plasma. Do in short, it is heating the air it passes to into plasma. Imagine how much energy is wasted. This has the benefit of producing the highest damage when up close; in contrast, the Laser Rifle has to be regulated to a certain range.
take a look at this:
http://www.army.mil/article/82262/
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1943
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Posted - 2014.03.06 22:14:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Light disperses.
DUST doesn't model projectiles, so bullets don't drop over any distance.
Dust does model projectiles on some weapons, like the MD, and the flaylock. |
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