Why do players keep throwing info and stats about eve ships as if the dropsuits should work just like them? Its nice that your ships can do that but we aren't playing eve here..we aren't using ships.. we are infantry.Yes dust is set in the "eve universe" but it is not eve it is its own game. People cant seem to get it in their heads that the rules in eve don't apply to dust. The battles in Dust are different from eve so with a different battlefield and different way of fighting comes its own rules some may have been based off of eve and are similar but Dust plays by its own set of rules. Expecting infantry to act and battle like giant ships of doom is kinda stupid. Giant Space ships and infantry are not the same thing you cant expect them to follow the same rules.

Because the original idea of the game was for EVE and Dust514 to be the same, racial profiles were made on EVE, and being as those profiles/styles/ideas already exist they should and must transfer over to another game set in the same universe, ESPECIALLY when its all taking place at the same time.
Dust affects EVE, and Eve affects Dust, therefore the rules of the EVE universe should apply to the Dust universe because they are in fact the same exact universe in the exact same time frame. Saying that the rules that apply to racial variants of stuff in eve shouldn't apply to dust is stupid. That's like saying that weapon classes in call of duty or battlefield shouldn't be anything like their real life counterparts, or saying that weapons and ideas in the Warhammer series shouldn't correlate to each other, and that the lore and back story of a game doesn't matter.

Yes i understand that you are talking about space ships and infantry but my point is valid, Weapons and suits should behave the same as they do in other parts of the universe in the game. AS Dust is a PART of EVE, not a completely separate game. There is a reason its called " EVE : Dust514 " and interacts with EVE. It is not just Dust514 it is a part of New Eden.

When creating a universe with multiple games, one does not simply abandon the rules of the first game set in the universe just because it "doesn't make sense" if a rule about a group has been created in a universe it applies to every corresponding game set in the same universe.

Weapons and suits should behave the same as they do for all parts of the universe..yes it should...I might be wrong but I have never heard of EVE pilots putting on dropsuits and ARs,shotguns..etc and battling each other to the death. This is the first time that technology from EVE has been modified and used to battle infantry vs infantry on ground where you control the merc right? So you don't know how its suppose to behave cause its not been used this way before. You expect tech to still behave the same after it has been modified for a different purpose? DUST tech cant behave like EVE tech 100% which is what EVE players seem to want..its not gonna happen. I never said lore and back-story doesn't matter obviously it does and has a role in the development of DUST. However, whether you like it or not DUST will have its own rules that apply to DUST and DUST only because DUST is a FPS a different game genre from EVE and on a console not a computer ...it cant keep up with EVE.

EVE pilots essentially do....they put on ships like we do dropsuits, their bodies are their capsules, their ships their dropsuits, their AR pulse lasers and Railguns.

If this is the first time tech has been modified it would be micro sized tried and tested working combat equipment, thus almost exactly the same function and effectiveness as space borne weapons......modified for atomospheric conditions.

Dust 514 needs to be more like EVE, less like a traditional FPS.

FPS alone is boring, MMO RPG FPS.....all three combined= fun.

quantum mailing from the future?


doesnt work that way should be more quantum mailing of now.

EVE is fairly well balanced. DUST is not. We're just asking for them to apply the same amount of love and attention to their infantry game.

And we are just meat sacks in dropsuits, essentially the same thing.

Dust is not its own game and should not EVER make its own rules, otherwise it then needs to be separate from EVE.

The same rules do apply, the same people make our gear, supply us weapons, we work for those same people, we fight for corps in the same universe, etc.

We don't expect them to fight like ships, only for the technologies which mirror their EVE side counter parts to accurately operate in the same manner.

Suit of Armor=/=Battlecruiser.

Should they follow the general rules of the race? Yes. and for the the most part they do.

Gallente Favor Armor, Caldari Shields, Amarr (E)HP, and Minnies aiming for speed and firepower.

They are roughly resemble their race's designs , but also differ from the designs, and for good reason.

Mainly because suits of armor are still affected by gravity, and by the (Super)human in it.

They're trying to apply the same amount of love and effort. It just takes time. Eve as it is now has been built, tweaked and added to over 10+ years Dust isn't even at 1 year from official release yet (and arguably was released before it really should have been).

The ground based combat doctrines of each race are pretty well established in the Lore, which is what CCP should be, and as far as I can tell are, using as a guide for racial equipment and bonuses in Dust. It's highly unlikely that with the advent of infantry cloning the empires just threw away their combat tactics established with ground units who were susceptible to death. Sure they'll have been adapted for cloning, but the basics will be the same.

Argueably?

Sorry, but DUST was released when it should still b in CB.

Love the game to death, but its dead honest.

Eh, I read a little lore. Not enough to know this stuff.

Could you post some links so I can learnz?

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/ all of those plus the books are canon lore. There are a few chronicles on the Dust site as well. I honestly can't point out which have infantry combat tactics in them because 1) I haven't read them all yet and 2) Some of them I read a long while ago so I can't recall which had what in.