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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1919
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Seigfried Warheit wrote:Why do players keep throwing info and stats about eve ships as if the dropsuits should work just like them? Its nice that your ships can do that but we aren't playing eve here..we aren't using ships.. we are infantry.Yes dust is set in the "eve universe" but it is not eve it is its own game. People cant seem to get it in their heads that the rules in eve don't apply to dust. The battles in Dust are different from eve so with a different battlefield and different way of fighting comes its own rules some may have been based off of eve and are similar but Dust plays by its own set of rules. Expecting infantry to act and battle like giant ships of doom is kinda stupid. Giant Space ships and infantry are not the same thing you cant expect them to follow the same rules. And we are just meat sacks in dropsuits, essentially the same thing. Dust is not its own game and should not EVER make its own rules, otherwise it then needs to be separate from EVE. The same rules do apply, the same people make our gear, supply us weapons, we work for those same people, we fight for corps in the same universe, etc. We don't expect them to fight like ships, only for the technologies which mirror their EVE side counter parts to accurately operate in the same manner. Suit of Armor=/=Battlecruiser.
Should they follow the general rules of the race? Yes. and for the the most part they do.
Gallente Favor Armor, Caldari Shields, Amarr (E)HP, and Minnies aiming for speed and firepower.
They are roughly resemble their race's designs , but also differ from the designs, and for good reason.
Mainly because suits of armor are still affected by gravity, and by the (Super)human in it.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1922
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:32:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:EVE is fairly well balanced. DUST is not. We're just asking for them to apply the same amount of love and attention to their infantry game. They're trying to apply the same amount of love and effort. It just takes time. Eve as it is now has been built, tweaked and added to over 10+ years Dust isn't even at 1 year from official release yet (and arguably was released before it really should have been). Argueably?
Sorry, but DUST was released when it should still b in CB.
Love the game to death, but its dead honest.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1922
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:33:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:True Adamance wrote:Seigfried Warheit wrote:Why do players keep throwing info and stats about eve ships as if the dropsuits should work just like them? Its nice that your ships can do that but we aren't playing eve here..we aren't using ships.. we are infantry.Yes dust is set in the "eve universe" but it is not eve it is its own game. People cant seem to get it in their heads that the rules in eve don't apply to dust. The battles in Dust are different from eve so with a different battlefield and different way of fighting comes its own rules some may have been based off of eve and are similar but Dust plays by its own set of rules. Expecting infantry to act and battle like giant ships of doom is kinda stupid. Giant Space ships and infantry are not the same thing you cant expect them to follow the same rules. And we are just meat sacks in dropsuits, essentially the same thing. Dust is not its own game and should not EVER make its own rules, otherwise it then needs to be separate from EVE. The same rules do apply, the same people make our gear, supply us weapons, we work for those same people, we fight for corps in the same universe, etc. We don't expect them to fight like ships, only for the technologies which mirror their EVE side counter parts to accurately operate in the same manner. Suit of Armor=/=Battlecruiser. Should they follow the general rules of the race? Yes. and for the the most part they do. Gallente Favor Armor, Caldari Shields, Amarr (E)HP, and Minnies aiming for speed and firepower. They are roughly resemble their race's designs , but also differ from the designs, and for good reason. Mainly because suits of armor are still affected by gravity, and by the (Super)human in it. The ground based combat doctrines of each race are pretty well established in the Lore, which is what CCP should be, and as far as I can tell are, using as a guide for racial equipment and bonuses in Dust. It's highly unlikely that with the advent of infantry cloning the empires just threw away their combat tactics established with ground units who were susceptible to death. Sure they'll have been adapted for cloning, but the basics will be the same. Eh, I read a little lore. Not enough to know this stuff.
Could you post some links so I can learnz?
Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1924
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:20:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:Meeko Fent wrote: Eh, I read a little lore. Not enough to know this stuff.
Could you post some links so I can learnz?
http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/ all of those plus the books are canon lore. There are a few chronicles on the Dust site as well. I honestly can't point out which have infantry combat tactics in them because 1) I haven't read them all yet and 2) Some of them I read a long while ago so I can't recall which had what in. Thanks.
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