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da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 476	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:58:00 - [1] - Quote The Minmatar Assault suit did not need to lose it's 1.00 armor repair, it's already a fragile suit. So why CCP? WHY?! After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1445	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:00:00 - [2] - Quote da GAND wrote: The Minmatar Assault suit did not need to lose it's 1.00 armor repair, it's already a fragile suit. So why CCP? WHY?! To discourage plate stacking on a speedy shield/skirmisher suit. Not saying it's well balanced, but I think that was the idea. Respec in 1.8 due to huge battlefield role shift for MinLogi! All my posts are respec posts (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ LockmeBro!
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 476	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:04:00 - [3] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: da GAND wrote: The Minmatar Assault suit did not need to lose it's 1.00 armor repair, it's already a fragile suit. So why CCP? WHY?! To discourage plate stacking on a speedy shield/skirmisher suit. Not saying it's well balanced, but I think that was the idea. hmmmm interesting not sure though if it was still necessary to get rid of it After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Dingleburt Bangledack PiZzA DuDeS 16	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:13:00 - [4] - Quote Because CCP really wants to cement it into our brains that Minmitar are now and always will be the worst suit choice... ...except for the 1.8 Minja (hopefully )
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 476	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:18:00 - [5] - Quote Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Because CCP really wants to cement it into our brains that Minmitar are now and always will be the worst suit choice... ...except for the 1.8 Minja (hopefully ) everything except for that minnie assault seems to be fine After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3822	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:21:00 - [6] - Quote I still do not understand why people moan about the Minmatar assault suits. I kid you not, a day one DUST scrub could put on a Minmatar assault suit and strafe circles around my Amarr Assault a.k0 and take me out like I'm the day one scrub. The strafe speed on those things are ridiculous. I try to avoid Minmatar assaults at all costs when in CQC because they are too good at strafing around and getting behind me as if by magic. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 163	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:22:00 - [7] - Quote Yea, Minnie logis are pretty good... at dying to my laser rifle..... #Amarrica Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:24:00 - [8] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Yea, Minnie logis are pretty good... at dying to my laser rifle..... #Amarrica I'm talking about the Minnie Assaults not the logis After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 153	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:32:00 - [9] - Quote JS Why would Minmatar, a suit with more shield, while the Gallente wouldn't? Gallente are armor based, not shield based. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:45:00 - [10] - Quote Soldier Sorajord wrote: JS Why would Minmatar, a suit with more shield, while the Gallente wouldn't? Gallente are armor based, not shield based. So I understood the last half of what you were saying, yes Gallente are armor based. What were you trying to say at the beginning there before you went to talk about the Gallente suits? After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.

Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 155	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:49:00 - [11] - Quote da GAND wrote: Soldier Sorajord wrote: JS Why would Minmatar, a suit with more shield, while the Gallente wouldn't? Gallente are armor based, not shield based. So I understood the last half of what you were saying, yes Gallente are armor based. What were you trying to say at the beginning there before you went to talk about the Gallente suits? Edited it. I meant that Gallente should be the suit to have armor repair, because at max armor/shield, they have the highest armor of any class passively. It wouldn't make sense to give it to a class that would probably need shield since they are meant for speed & Guerilla tactics. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 814	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:51:00 - [12] - Quote da Gand, what I've been doing lately with my Minmatar assault is putting an enhanced armor plate in one low slot and an enhanced reactive in the other to get me up to 3 armor reps as is, so I guess I'll live with 2. I wish I didn't have to worry about armor at all but shields are weak now and they penalize stacking even so I make a pathetic attempt at dual tanking. Maybe the proficiency change and people's love of the CR and RR will help us Min assaults out a little. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:51:00 - [13] - Quote Soldier Sorajord wrote: da GAND wrote: Soldier Sorajord wrote: JS Why would Minmatar, a suit with more shield, while the Gallente wouldn't? Gallente are armor based, not shield based. So I understood the last half of what you were saying, yes Gallente are armor based. What were you trying to say at the beginning there before you went to talk about the Gallente suits? Edited it. I meant that Gallente should be the suit to have armor repair, because at max armor/shield, they have the highest armor of any class passively. It wouldn't make sense to give it to a class that would probably need shield since they are meant for speed & Guerilla tactics. alright alright I see your point After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:52:00 - [14] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: da Gand, what I've been doing lately with my Minmatar assault is putting an enhanced armor plate in one low slot and an enhanced reactive in the other to get me up to 3 armor reps as is, so I guess I'll live with 2. I wish I didn't have to worry about armor at all but shields are weak now and they penalize stacking even so I make a pathetic attempt at dual tanking. Maybe the proficiency change and people's love of the CR and RR will help us Min assaults out a little. What movement and sprint speed do both of the enhanced armor plates leave you at? After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7928	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:00:00 - [15] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Yea, Minnie logis are pretty good... at dying to my laser rifle..... #Amarrica You and your filthy blaspheming corp don't ever get to say that. If you guys were the ultramarines....man half a dozen inquisitorial companies and Space Marine chapters would have exterminated your long ago. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Ripley Riley 913	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:04:00 - [16] - Quote The Minmatar are shield tanking, agile fighters. An innate armor rep bonus does not jive with that. Like the Caldari, they shouldn't be fitting armor plates in their lows ideally; profile damps and kin cats would be more appropriate. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 659	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:05:00 - [17] - Quote It probialy will lose it but the assult and logi stats have yet to be relesed yet to my knowledge, so maybe wait and see? These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2839	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:07:00 - [18] - Quote Because the Gallente held a gun to the Minmatar and took it off them because 'freedom' Intelligence is OP
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1661	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:12:00 - [19] - Quote The 1HP repair was kind of dumb, but it made that suit unique. All these dropsuits are pretty much the same and built the same Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:14:00 - [20] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: It probialy will lose it but the assult and logi stats have yet to be relesed yet to my knowledge, so maybe wait and see? Maybe but this is a work in progress http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Medium_Frames.png After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.

BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 621	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:14:00 - [21] - Quote da GAND wrote: Awry Barux wrote: da GAND wrote: The Minmatar Assault suit did not need to lose it's 1.00 armor repair, it's already a fragile suit. So why CCP? WHY?! To discourage plate stacking on a speedy shield/skirmisher suit. Not saying it's well balanced, but I think that was the idea. hmmmm interesting not sure though if it was still necessary to get rid of it Duck Tape only go,s so far you know ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1566	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:15:00 - [22] - Quote minmatar should have never had that bonus in the first place. minmatar are primarily shield tankers a built in armor rep is out of character for them. GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 621	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:16:00 - [23] - Quote I now want to see a MEME of 1.8 of a min sitting behind a rock duck tapping his drop suit back up ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:28:00 - [24] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: I now want to see a MEME of 1.8 of a min sitting behind a rock duck tapping his drop suit back up ! lol not it but closes Oh ya!! The Republic is gonna be getting a lot of recruits!! After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 480	Posted - 2014.03.06 21:00:00 - [25] - Quote @BAD FURRY any other recruiting pics like that After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2150	Posted - 2014.03.06 21:15:00 - [26] - Quote The med frame is keeping its 1hp/sec confirmed by a dev from a buried post "But we have been blessed"
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 480	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:12:00 - [27] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: The med frame is keeping its 1hp/sec confirmed by a dev from a buried post lies!!! I won't trust a blasted Amarr After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 495	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:16:00 - [28] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: minmatar should have never had that bonus in the first place. minmatar are primarily shield tankers a built in armor rep is out of character for them. aren't they dual tankers? with out the 1 rep, the caldari beats matari with a higher shield regen and hp I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 156	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:27:00 - [29] - Quote Ripcord19981 wrote: knight of 6 wrote: minmatar should have never had that bonus in the first place. minmatar are primarily shield tankers a built in armor rep is out of character for them. aren't they dual tankers? with out the 1 rep, the caldari beats matari with a higher shield regen and hp No. They're speed tankers. Amarr are the dual tankers. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1469	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:29:00 - [30] - Quote As if 1 point of repair is really going to help you out hugely. They're supposed to repair their shields quick, not armor.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1910	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:28:00 - [31] - Quote da GAND wrote: The Minmatar Assault suit did not need to lose it's 1.00 armor repair, it's already a fragile suit. So why CCP? WHY?! Wait for patch notes. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 496	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:47:00 - [32] - Quote Soldier Sorajord wrote: Ripcord19981 wrote: knight of 6 wrote: minmatar should have never had that bonus in the first place. minmatar are primarily shield tankers a built in armor rep is out of character for them. aren't they dual tankers? with out the 1 rep, the caldari beats matari with a higher shield regen and hp No. They're speed tankers. Amarr are the dual tankers. Ok, I was just asking, that was not a rhetorical question. I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 486	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:52:00 - [33] - Quote Joel II X wrote: As if 1 point of repair is really going to help you out hugely. They're supposed to repair their shields quick, not armor. Well actually add a reactive armor plate and it helps out just fine if you were just in a huge firefight and your armor is down to 5% of what it is. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1125	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:24:00 - [34] - Quote da GAND wrote: Awry Barux wrote: da GAND wrote: The Minmatar Assault suit did not need to lose it's 1.00 armor repair, it's already a fragile suit. So why CCP? WHY?! To discourage plate stacking on a speedy shield/skirmisher suit. Not saying it's well balanced, but I think that was the idea. hmmmm interesting not sure though if it was still necessary to get rid of it Plate stacking on a suit that has 5 high slots and only 2 lows is pretty much pointless. If it had a 3rd low for a PG upgrade then it might be viable or if PG/CPU upgrades were high slot modules, but as the suit and modules currently stand it's a terrible idea as you loose the only (slight) advantage the suit has, which is it's strafe speed. MAG ~ Raven
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 160	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:26:00 - [35] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: da GAND wrote: Awry Barux wrote: da GAND wrote: The Minmatar Assault suit did not need to lose it's 1.00 armor repair, it's already a fragile suit. So why CCP? WHY?! To discourage plate stacking on a speedy shield/skirmisher suit. Not saying it's well balanced, but I think that was the idea. hmmmm interesting not sure though if it was still necessary to get rid of it Plate stacking on a suit that has 5 high slots and only 2 lows is pretty much pointless. If it had a 3rd low for a PG upgrade then it might be viable or if PG/CPU upgrades were high slot modules, but as the suit and modules currently stand it's a terrible idea as you loose the only (slight) advantage the suit has, which is it's strafe speed. Amarr should get a 1 Armor rep with lower shield regen. Gallente should get one or two armor rep with low shield regen. Caldari should have a high recharge rate. Minmatar should have a short recharge delay. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 62	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:48:00 - [36] - Quote I couldn't help myself, this thread reminded me of this. Grinched
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 487	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:50:00 - [37] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: I couldn't help myself, this thread reminded me of this. Grinched After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Patrick57 5824	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:54:00 - [38] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Min Assault also gets 50 base stamina recharge. 1 Proto Stamina mod pushes this to 110 stamina per second. Combine with Complex Kincat. You can sprint for 100m after waiting for 1 second. That thing is gonna be mobile as **** Mobility is OP.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 487	Posted - 2014.03.07 22:31:00 - [39] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Min Assault also gets 50 base stamina recharge. 1 Proto Stamina mod pushes this to 110 stamina per second. Combine with Complex Kincat. You can sprint for 100m after waiting for 1 second. That thing is gonna be mobile as **** Mobility is OP. That speed is useless if our suits can't handle a few shots from any weapon After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 491	Posted - 2014.03.07 22:38:00 - [40] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I still do not understand why people moan about the Minmatar assault suits. I kid you not, a day one DUST scrub could put on a Minmatar assault suit and strafe circles around my Amarr Assault a.k0 and take me out like I'm the day one scrub. The strafe speed on those things are ridiculous. I try to avoid Minmatar assaults at all costs when in CQC because they are too good at strafing around and getting behind me as if by magic. True. Strafing speed is the reason one would use the minmatar assault. If I were not an Amarrian fanatic or had no allegiance with any of the factions, I would use the minmatar assault suit.

Charlie 'Chaplin' Pennock Ultramarine Corp 42	Posted - 2014.03.08 17:51:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Yea, Minnie logis are pretty good... at dying to my laser rifle..... #Amarrica You and your filthy blaspheming corp don't ever get to say that. If you guys were the ultramarines....man half a dozen inquisitorial companies and Space Marine chapters would have exterminated your long ago. You mad?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5428	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:42:00 - [42] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I still do not understand why people moan about the Minmatar assault suits. I kid you not, a day one DUST scrub could put on a Minmatar assault suit and strafe circles around my Amarr Assault a.k0 and take me out like I'm the day one scrub. The strafe speed on those things are ridiculous. I try to avoid Minmatar assaults at all costs when in CQC because they are too good at strafing around and getting behind me as if by magic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137506&find=unread lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 206	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:46:00 - [43] - Quote Thread is pointless. They aren't losing the 1hp/s repair, if we are to believe CCP Logibro. We learned this a few weeks ago guys... Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2003	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:48:00 - [44] - Quote da GAND wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: It probialy will lose it but the assult and logi stats have yet to be relesed yet to my knowledge, so maybe wait and see? Maybe but this is a work in progress http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Medium_Frames.png Those suits are the exact same as we have now For the Federation!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4963	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:50:00 - [45] - Quote I honestly feel like. They attempted to make Minmitar suits where you tank one way or the other. Or a bit of both. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 159	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:50:00 - [46] - Quote No they are not... the only thing missing, is the new slot layout... which is rediculous, since if we get a refund, we don't know the final layout of the suits...


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