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bamboo x
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:47:00 -
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- If you think damage mods are useless now, you're an idiot. One complex mod will still be necessary.
- Vehicle and AV stats haven't even been released, so you're all jumping to conclusions. Plus Gallente vehicles will now be easier to kill.
- Though sniper rifles won't be able to touch Amarr sentinels with their shields fully charged, it will annihilate once the armor is down.
- We don't even know the stats or layouts of medium suits yet.
- Wah, my AR/SG is useless now!!! No it's not, just switch to an armor-based sidearm.
The only valid complaint I've seen was the laser weapon proficiency not affecting much except Minmatar and Caldari sentinels. And that sniper rifles won't affect shield tanking suits very well.
bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
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bamboo x
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:55:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Some of us have been through this a number of times, and we remember the predictions, and what actually sucked after the patch dropped.
People are getting pretty good at their predictions by now.
It's just after 1.7 being Tanks514 and everyone universally agreeing that AV needs a balance, I can't see CCP being stupid enough to make that mistake twice.
bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
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bamboo x
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:09:00 -
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Okay well I still retain my point that everyone's crying is severely exaggerating the facts.
First of all AV isn't getting nerfed, it's being buffed - against Gallente vehicles. And to be honest fluxes will remain extremely effective against shield tanks. Also even if it's only the Caldari dropships, they still needed this buff.
Second if you think your shield-based weapon is going to suck, why don't you try taking a shield tanking suit's shields down with an armor-based weapon now? I can see it being like what an HMG is now at long range against shields... useless.
bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
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bamboo x
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:bamboo x wrote:Okay well I still retain my point that everyone's crying is severely exaggerating the facts.
First of all AV isn't getting nerfed, it's being buffed - against Gallente vehicles. And to be honest fluxes will remain extremely effective against shield tanks. Also even if it's only the Caldari dropships, they still needed this buff.
Second if you think your shield-based weapon is going to suck, why don't you try taking a shield tanking suit's shields down with an armor-based weapon now? I can see it being like what an HMG is now at long range against shields... useless. Are you talking about forge gun being anti armor? It's always been anti armor.
****, you might be right. Hopefully the armor bonus amounts to more than what proficiency was doing before.
Hanging up the Min Logi, going full Amarr Sentinel with HMG, Ion Pistol, and Forge Gun.
My record high KD about 47/14
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bamboo x
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:25:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Everyone else in this thread might be, but I'm not. And I'm not aware of any changes to vehicle/AV balance (other than the AV nerf created by the damage mod changes) in 1.8. Look, I'm all for "Try before you cry" in theory, but most of the criticism leveled at the dev blog is justified. As others have pointed out, the community is pretty good about spotting the issues the minute they have the numbers in hand. I mean nerfing AR's harder than Scrambler rifles? The downward progression of nerf strength (RR--->SCR--->CR---->AR) makes sense if you look at the base damage point removal, but not the actual applied DPS. This is pretty straightforward stuff. But I digress - my point is that you shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions about people who are jumping to conclusions. Most of them have been jumping long enough that their accuracy improves every day. 
Yeah, I've been an AR user since day one and it sounds like if you're right about the numbers, it would probably become the new most obsolete weapon. But I'm used to this by now and am not really surprised. Hopefully we get the respec and I can get all my proficiency points back from it.
Maybe they'll be smart enough to give a strong enough armor proficiency boost to AV.
Hanging up the Min Logi, going full Amarr Sentinel with HMG, Ion Pistol, and Forge Gun.
My record high KD about 47/14
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