DUST Search - What weapon will you be using in 1.8?

ResistanceGTA wrote:

Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

Kaughst wrote:

The Mass Driver. I have looked at it and apparently it is getting a 15.6% dam increase, which basically covers the prof. nerf with a 5% increase in damage. In regard to the Assault MD If I still have 3 complex dam mods on my Gal assault by 1.8 I only get 10% less damage compared to now if I want to spam it, this does reduce doing alot of damage spamming the MD where the assault MD was the only case of spam being a issue but mostly I can survive long range shots from rifles. Speaking of surviving, running a base MD with that extra 5% dam. on the Freedom also does not change much but the only positive thing I see about the damage increase is that I will break through shield users quicker as I hate going against gallente since they technically take longer to kill with the MD do to the lower EHP. The short story...I can at least say the MD didn't get a nerf, the lower damage on the rifles is what will make the MD viable not the damage increase.

I calculated more like a 20%-25% damage increase for MD, plus 11 round freedom clip with min assault Shocked

Kaughst with normal MD is bad enough, giving you an OP MD is just plain scary.

Hold your horses on the 11 round clip, they were strongly considering removing that part of the bonus due to the damage increase.

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Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 572	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:25:00 - [1] - Quote I figure this is a good change of pace from all of the complaining going on about weapon changes...everyone is gonna be doing less damage, deal with it. So if your favorite gun is basically rendered unusable what will you be switching to? or are you gonna make the same old stuff work for ya in this new dust? I use combat rifle and that's getting hit the hardest, I think it will still be a very good gun but I might find one of the new ones to be more beneficial, some testing will be required but I may end up going for the ion pistol, low cost, high damage potential, seems decent for a logi, and it might work out really well if I plan on getting into scouts, sneak up behind someone with a fully charged shot and bang! Then again I could just abuse the mass driver again, that could be fun :D This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Deltahawk Durango Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 135	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:29:00 - [2] - Quote HMG on amarr sentinel RR/SL on cal commando ain't changing anything cuz of a dev blog... I don't believe in an eye for an eye... I believe in two eyes for an eye!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9792	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:30:00 - [3] - Quote Still will be using my Templar scrambler rifle. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 573	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:30:00 - [4] - Quote I just thought of something...Why am I worried about this? I'm going to boot camp in april, honestly if we get a respec I'm probably just gonna let all my SP sit there til I get back in like october. then maybe I can come back to mechs and PVE and new guns and suits where and maybe there won't be a respec for all that junk :D I'll have like 35 mil to spend on whatever the hell I want This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Onesimus Tarsus Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1395	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:31:00 - [5] - Quote Nerf-hammer. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 573	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:31:00 - [6] - Quote Lol good ****, at least some people will be sticking to their guns (or in my case puns) and not complaining because there's changes, the game has changed 8 times already you'd think we would be used to it. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 878	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:31:00 - [7] - Quote Sticking with my usual four: ScR, SMG, Flaylock and Mass Driver. Might try out the new pistols I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 160	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:32:00 - [8] - Quote Same as now except I want that bolt pistol on my heavy. Not new, just new to you.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 573	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:32:00 - [9] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nerf-hammer. This needs to be in the game, CCP when will we be allowed to wield the nerf hammer!? This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2063	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:33:00 - [10] - Quote i'm strongly considering the laser rifle, i've never used it before, and the buff makes it look fun with an ammar commando.

sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 27	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:34:00 - [11] - Quote Dat magsec smg in my light and sidearm slots He who breaks crutches
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 484	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:35:00 - [12] - Quote Same ones i use every build... XT-1 Missile turrets -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2749	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:36:00 - [13] - Quote On my Heavy I will be using the same weapon I have been using since 1.3. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2194	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:37:00 - [14] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nerf-hammer. This needs to be in the game, CCP when will we be allowed to wield the nerf hammer!? But if the nNerf Hammer is OPGÇª how do we Nerf it KRRROOOOOOM
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 368	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:37:00 - [15] - Quote HMG, Forge Gun and Melee, because that's what I've always used. In the event of a respec I'd love to spec into Minmatar Sentinel along with Gallente Sentinel. Gallente for general infantry slaying, and the Minmatar for doubling as a Forge Gunner fit and so I can make a sweet Sentinel Melee build. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 857	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:37:00 - [16] - Quote Ahh there are so many I want now! My current list, Magsec Bolt pistol Shot gun Forge gun Mag sec and shot gun for my cal scout, I just wish there was a caldari shot gun, but the mag sec or bolt pistol will do for now.
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 27	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:38:00 - [17] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nerf-hammer. This needs to be in the game, CCP when will we be allowed to wield the nerf hammer!? But if the nNerf Hammer is OPGÇª how do we Nerf it You don't, you just have to dodge it using math He who breaks crutches
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 389	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:38:00 - [18] - Quote Combat rifle, it will still be doing like 150 more DPS than the AR, with greater range, and easier fittings, and better damage profile, and better scope.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 544	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:39:00 - [19] - Quote ScR... I made a switch from DS3 to DS4 controller and what ive noticed is I can aim amazingly with the ScR and ScP with it. But ive lost a lot of skill with the CbR (dont ask how, I dont know...i just sort of suck with it comparitively now. I think its fighting the kick is harder with the DS4 or i just havent gotten used to it). Plus lower DPS means bigger chance I will have to reload my CBR as opposed to just managing the ROF on the ScR a bit more. Seriously...I dunno what it is about rhe DS4 but i really just dont miss ScR shots with it at all.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 575	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:43:00 - [20] - Quote calisk galern wrote: i'm strongly considering the laser rifle, i've never used it before, and the buff makes it look fun with an ammar commando. laser rifle was fantastic in the beta but it's been on and off ever since, with more range and heat cost reduced it's definitely not gonna be a bad choice. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.

noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. 224	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:44:00 - [21] - Quote Magsec smg nova knives cal scout or maybe the ion pistol just call me communist space king noob MAG vet raven ftw
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 575	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:44:00 - [22] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nerf-hammer. This needs to be in the game, CCP when will we be allowed to wield the nerf hammer!? But if the nNerf Hammer is OPGÇª how do we Nerf it you don't, the nerf hammer has the ability to break the weapon of whoever you hit with it This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 326	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:45:00 - [23] - Quote I'm not playing 1.8 but rail and laser rifle.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 575	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:46:00 - [24] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Ahh there are so many I want now! My current list, Magsec Bolt pistol Shot gun Forge gun Mag sec and shot gun for my cal scout, I just wish there was a caldari shot gun, but the mag sec or bolt pistol will do for now. Weird, alot of people are saying this will be another nerf for AV but alot of people are also saying they want to forge This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 545	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:50:00 - [25] - Quote Because everyone realized a while ago that everyone needs to spec forge to have any chance of fighting back a tank stomp. It's not "oh fany forge gun looks good" it's "yeah still need forge for an AV build, oh well"
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 251	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:51:00 - [26] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: On my Heavy I will be using the same weapon I have been using since 1.3. True dat. Yeah. But for my heavy, I think I'd like to try the N7-A Magsec, see how it performs against the M209. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 226	Posted - 2014.03.05 19:56:00 - [27] - Quote The Mass Driver. I have looked at it and apparently it is getting a 15.6% dam increase, which basically covers the prof. nerf with a 5% increase in damage. In regard to the Assault MD If I still have 3 complex dam mods on my Gal assault by 1.8 I only get 10% less damage compared to now if I want to spam it, this does reduce doing alot of damage spamming the MD where the assault MD was the only case of spam being a issue but mostly I can survive long range shots from rifles. Speaking of surviving, running a base MD with that extra 5% dam. on the Freedom also does not change much but the only positive thing I see about the damage increase is that I will break through shield users quicker as I hate going against gallente since they technically take longer to kill with the MD do to the lower EHP. The short story...I can at least say the MD didn't get a nerf, the lower damage on the rifles is what will make the MD viable not the damage increase. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 853	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:02:00 - [28] - Quote Kaughst wrote: The Mass Driver. I have looked at it and apparently it is getting a 15.6% dam increase, which basically covers the prof. nerf with a 5% increase in damage. In regard to the Assault MD If I still have 3 complex dam mods on my Gal assault by 1.8 I only get 10% less damage compared to now if I want to spam it, this does reduce doing alot of damage spamming the MD where the assault MD was the only case of spam being a issue but mostly I can survive long range shots from rifles. Speaking of surviving, running a base MD with that extra 5% dam. on the Freedom also does not change much but the only positive thing I see about the damage increase is that I will break through shield users quicker as I hate going against gallente since they technically take longer to kill with the MD do to the lower EHP. The short story...I can at least say the MD didn't get a nerf, the lower damage on the rifles is what will make the MD viable not the damage increase. I calculated more like a 20%-25% damage increase for MD, plus 11 round freedom clip with min assault Kaughst with normal MD is bad enough, giving you an OP MD is just plain scary.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 156	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:03:00 - [29] - Quote Ill be running a laser rifle, and either a swarm launcher or an assault scrambler rifle Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 342	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:06:00 - [30] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Kaughst wrote: The Mass Driver. I have looked at it and apparently it is getting a 15.6% dam increase, which basically covers the prof. nerf with a 5% increase in damage. In regard to the Assault MD If I still have 3 complex dam mods on my Gal assault by 1.8 I only get 10% less damage compared to now if I want to spam it, this does reduce doing alot of damage spamming the MD where the assault MD was the only case of spam being a issue but mostly I can survive long range shots from rifles. Speaking of surviving, running a base MD with that extra 5% dam. on the Freedom also does not change much but the only positive thing I see about the damage increase is that I will break through shield users quicker as I hate going against gallente since they technically take longer to kill with the MD do to the lower EHP. The short story...I can at least say the MD didn't get a nerf, the lower damage on the rifles is what will make the MD viable not the damage increase. I calculated more like a 20%-25% damage increase for MD, plus 11 round freedom clip with min assault Kaughst with normal MD is bad enough, giving you an OP MD is just plain scary. Hold your horses on the 11 round clip, they were strongly considering removing that part of the bonus due to the damage increase. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!

Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 258	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:06:00 - [31] - Quote hmmmm MSMG/ion pistol on scout C/1 ooooor bk42CR/MSMG (MSGM=magsec) We speak the Dragon's language of flame and rage. Together we shall weave a tale of destruction without equal...
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 538	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:07:00 - [32] - Quote At this point i dont even know anymore A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
D34NOS MAZDA WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 342	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:08:00 - [33] - Quote melee its the only thing that wont get the nerfbat
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 932	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:08:00 - [34] - Quote I think the assault MD is gonna be ridiculously good at clearing equipment in 1.8 (max will be 100HP for equipment at proto). I'll be using Shotgun, nova knives, and my BPO SMG. Might try some of the new sidearms.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1259	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:10:00 - [35] - Quote Still using my AR and SMG. Might test out the Ion Pistol. Not touching that MagSec... "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 853	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:10:00 - [36] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Kaughst wrote: The Mass Driver. I have looked at it and apparently it is getting a 15.6% dam increase, which basically covers the prof. nerf with a 5% increase in damage. In regard to the Assault MD If I still have 3 complex dam mods on my Gal assault by 1.8 I only get 10% less damage compared to now if I want to spam it, this does reduce doing alot of damage spamming the MD where the assault MD was the only case of spam being a issue but mostly I can survive long range shots from rifles. Speaking of surviving, running a base MD with that extra 5% dam. on the Freedom also does not change much but the only positive thing I see about the damage increase is that I will break through shield users quicker as I hate going against gallente since they technically take longer to kill with the MD do to the lower EHP. The short story...I can at least say the MD didn't get a nerf, the lower damage on the rifles is what will make the MD viable not the damage increase. I calculated more like a 20%-25% damage increase for MD, plus 11 round freedom clip with min assault Kaughst with normal MD is bad enough, giving you an OP MD is just plain scary. Hold your horses on the 11 round clip, they were strongly considering removing that part of the bonus due to the damage increase. We'll see, if they're being consistent with the racial assault suit+weapon ethos of 1.8 the min assault suit should give some bonus to MD. May be the existing bonus but scaled back to 5% per level for all weapons (instead of +1 per level for explosives), which would still mean an 8 round freedom clip.
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 30	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:11:00 - [37] - Quote D34NOS MAZDA wrote: melee its the only thing that wont get the nerfbat The commando melee is 240 At proto the suit has 2 high slots for melee boosts Your face will likely never recover He who breaks crutches
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:12:00 - [38] - Quote BPOs and mlt gear with core skills 5. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 30	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:13:00 - [39] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: BPOs and mlt gear with core skills 5. Do you mean Auto Win? He who breaks crutches
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 223	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:15:00 - [40] - Quote im sticking wih my hmg / forge as always and smg for sidearm im pretty static when it comes to weapons ... at least until they give me another heavy weapon probly gona b another 2 years b4 that tho Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA

D34NOS MAZDA WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 343	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:17:00 - [41] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: D34NOS MAZDA wrote: melee its the only thing that wont get the nerfbat The commando melee is 240 At proto the suit has 2 high slots for melee boosts Your face will likely never recover this is what i am thinking
LittleCuteBunny 347	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:25:00 - [42] - Quote Combat Rifle seems to be a good choice since the damage mods and proficiency will get nerfed. Just take a look at this base damage. Shields (-5%) = 84.645 per burst Armor (+10%) = 98.01 per burst Recruiter Link Retired.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1412	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:32:00 - [43] - Quote I'm leaning towards gunslinger scout with Ion + Bolt pistols, or Ion + SMG when I'm feeling spray-and-pray. Open with the charge shot to shred shields, follow up with anti-armor tech. Respec in 1.8 due to huge battlefield role shift for MinLogi! All my posts are respec posts (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ LockmeBro!
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 803	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:34:00 - [44] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: I figure this is a good change of pace from all of the complaining going on about weapon changes...everyone is gonna be doing less damage, deal with it. So if your favorite gun is basically rendered unusable what will you be switching to? or are you gonna make the same old stuff work for ya in this new dust? I use combat rifle and that's getting hit the hardest, I think it will still be a very good gun but I might find one of the new ones to be more beneficial, some testing will be required but I may end up going for the ion pistol, low cost, high damage potential, seems decent for a logi, and it might work out really well if I plan on getting into scouts, sneak up behind someone with a fully charged shot and bang! Then again I could just abuse the mass driver again, that could be fun :D I hate pistols but that Ion is lookin' gooooood! I'm upset that CCP dared to touch my sexy SMG (hands down my most favorite weapon ever!) but I'll still be rollin' with it. Not gonna lie though....that MagSec is kinda callin' my name! Out of everything (weapon related) will say this: "Another weapon set down". Infantry rifles Pistols What's next? Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 924	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:35:00 - [45] - Quote Same old, same old. No new weapons interest me greatly. Tempted by the Ion Pistol but I prefer more ranged weapons. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Rodd of Nor Nor Clan Combat Logistics 36	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:59:00 - [46] - Quote I have always used the burst fire rifles so I will be sticking with the combat rifle and the burst assault rifle It is better to be thought an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:25:00 - [47] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Spectre-M wrote: BPOs and mlt gear with core skills 5. Do you mean Auto Win? What? That's standard gear with a bit of a boost. Are you playing the same game I am? Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 806	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:28:00 - [48] - Quote Might be taking a caldari scout with a magsec SMG and nova knives for a spin. with a cloak and remote explosives, I'll be a nightmare to the incoming sentinel spam. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 820	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:46:00 - [49] - Quote Everything. Mainly it'll be: Shotguns. Combat rifles. Plasma cannons. Swarm launchers. Mass drivers. Smg/mSmg. Bolt pistol. Laser rifle. Ion pisol i'll test out with my Plasma cannon LP, but i'm not expecting much. No SP refund=academy stomping FOR DAYYZ Proud owner of 69 'Fleshriver' Nk's. No i don't buy AUR
abarkrishna WarRavens 340	Posted - 2014.03.06 08:49:00 - [50] - Quote I will be using my already prof 5 mass driver before it gets nerfed again. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1529	Posted - 2014.03.06 08:59:00 - [51] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: ScR... I made a switch from DS3 to DS4 controller and what ive noticed is I can aim amazingly with the ScR and ScP with it. But ive lost a lot of skill with the CbR (dont ask how, I dont know...i just sort of suck with it comparitively now. I think its fighting the kick is harder with the DS4 or i just havent gotten used to it). Plus lower DPS means bigger chance I will have to reload my CBR as opposed to just managing the ROF on the ScR a bit more. Seriously...I dunno what it is about rhe DS4 but i really just dont miss ScR shots with it at all. Probably higher report rate than DS3. Drop it like its hat.
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 118	Posted - 2014.03.06 09:04:00 - [52] - Quote Depending on the map, situation, and what the enemy is mostly running/wearing it will be a combination of these - shotgun, ACR (didn't get much of a nerf), AR, LR, SMG, Nova Knife, and maybe one of the new pistols if I like them enough.


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