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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:

Meeko Fent wrote:

Are we their peers, and should they listen to us?

Yes.

But with the fact that 90% of the forums either want "Make this like EVE", or "This is OP, FIX IT! (But how do you think its OP) IDK, Its just OP!", or Just ***** about CCP regardless, Its amazing anything from these forums is useful, or helpful, or insightful into the games issues.

Half of the Threads now are "Y U NO GIIVE PACH NOTE CCP?", or like the 2nd example from above, the good points about things that are OP, or UP, or broken just gets sifted to the bottom of the pile while troll posts, and whiny bitches get brought to the top.

This is a issue pervasive in all online games. He who offends more people, and gets more replies wins.

Or, good threads with the possibility for good discussion get killed because the OP refuses to renegotiate his idea.

I think Saberwing and Logibro are the two remaining Community Devs, the rest are just getting stuff finished and ready for 1.8.

Maybe CCP Devs have a life. Sorry to say, but I mean, seriously. They probably test the game in Studio, and they work on it, so maybe we should stop with the "Play you game!" ****. Movie Directors don't constantly watch their movie. Chefs don't eat only their Le Cordon Bleu. People have lives outside of their job, and Its annoying how much people don't want to recognize this.

They treat us like five year olds because if they tell us anything, we act like five year olds. Look on the GD page. Just look. They DARE tell us something, and they get flamed, and pissed on. That's why you don't get told changes. That's why they treat us like five year olds. Because we act like five year olds when we're told anything.

I agree with you a lot but they barely play the game. If they even remotely tested the RR then there would be no way it would have been released in its current condition. Look at the fuel injectors for tanks when they were basically race cars, how could CCP ever miss that? They obviously did not test it and had to hot fix it.

They spend time thinking up new weapons and how to fix things but if they would just play the game and hear and see what is happening, they would learn. Someone told me this story once about the FG a while back. The FG got a nerf months ago because someone caught a game Dev playing and showed him and talked to him about the FG. After the Dev saw how it was, it was fixed. Believe the story at your own discretion, maybe someone else who was there can elaborate about this story.

I am not asking them to play a lot, just play a few hours a week or something... not one at most. They can learn a lot about the game from playing, just like everyone else.

How did fuel injector issue become noticed? From people who play

How did the TTK issue become noticed? From people who play

How did the RR & CR issue become noticed? From people who play

etc.


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Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1912	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:51:00 - [1] - Quote Are we their peers, and should they listen to us? Yes. But with the fact that 90% of the forums either want "Make this like EVE", or "This is OP, FIX IT! (But how do you think its OP) IDK, Its just OP!", or Just *** about CCP regardless, Its amazing anything from these forums is useful, or helpful, or insightful into the games issues. Half of the Threads now are "Y U NO GIIVE PACH NOTE CCP?", or like the 2nd example from above, the good points about things that are OP, or UP, or broken just gets sifted to the bottom of the pile while troll posts, and whiny bitches get brought to the top. This is a issue pervasive in all online games. He who offends more people, and gets more replies wins. Or, good threads with the possibility for good discussion get killed because the OP refuses to renegotiate his idea. I think Saberwing and Logibro are the two remaining Community Devs, the rest are just getting stuff finished and ready for 1.8. Maybe CCP Devs have a life. Sorry to say, but I mean, seriously. They probably test the game in Studio, and they work on it, so maybe we should stop with the "Play you game!" **. Movie Directors don't constantly watch their movie. Chefs don't eat only their Le Cordon Bleu. People have lives outside of their job, and Its annoying how much people don't want to recognize this. They treat us like five year olds because if they tell us anything, we act like five year olds. Look on the GD page. Just look. They DARE tell us something, and they get flamed, and pissed on. That's why you don't get told changes. That's why they treat us like five year olds. Because we act like five year olds when we're told anything. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1913	Posted - 2014.03.06 02:40:00 - [2] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Are we their peers, and should they listen to us? Yes. But with the fact that 90% of the forums either want "Make this like EVE", or "This is OP, FIX IT! (But how do you think its OP) IDK, Its just OP!", or Just *** about CCP regardless, Its amazing anything from these forums is useful, or helpful, or insightful into the games issues. Half of the Threads now are "Y U NO GIIVE PACH NOTE CCP?", or like the 2nd example from above, the good points about things that are OP, or UP, or broken just gets sifted to the bottom of the pile while troll posts, and whiny bitches get brought to the top. This is a issue pervasive in all online games. He who offends more people, and gets more replies wins. Or, good threads with the possibility for good discussion get killed because the OP refuses to renegotiate his idea. I think Saberwing and Logibro are the two remaining Community Devs, the rest are just getting stuff finished and ready for 1.8. Maybe CCP Devs have a life. Sorry to say, but I mean, seriously. They probably test the game in Studio, and they work on it, so maybe we should stop with the "Play you game!" **. Movie Directors don't constantly watch their movie. Chefs don't eat only their Le Cordon Bleu. People have lives outside of their job, and Its annoying how much people don't want to recognize this. They treat us like five year olds because if they tell us anything, we act like five year olds. Look on the GD page. Just look. They DARE tell us something, and they get flamed, and pissed on. That's why you don't get told changes. That's why they treat us like five year olds. Because we act like five year olds when we're told anything. I agree with you a lot but they barely play the game. If they even remotely tested the RR then there would be no way it would have been released in its current condition. Look at the fuel injectors for tanks when they were basically race cars, how could CCP ever miss that? They obviously did not test it and had to hot fix it. They spend time thinking up new weapons and how to fix things but if they would just play the game and hear and see what is happening, they would learn. Someone told me this story once about the FG a while back. The FG got a nerf months ago because someone caught a game Dev playing and showed him and talked to him about the FG. After the Dev saw how it was, it was fixed. Believe the story at your own discretion, maybe someone else who was there can elaborate about this story. I am not asking them to play a lot, just play a few hours a week or something... not one at most. They can learn a lot about the game from playing, just like everyone else. How did fuel injector issue become noticed? From people who play How did the TTK issue become noticed? From people who play How did the RR & CR issue become noticed? From people who play etc. And that's the job of Players. To let the devs know this while they work on the game, and then enjoy their own lives after work ends. Whats more amazing is that Sony QA didn't ask CCP if they mean't Militia Fuel Injector was supposed to work like that. Should they test the game some more? Yeah. But look now. People are up in arms because its been several months before a new patch. Imagine if they took another month each patch to test stuff, and optimize the game, and make it better? Be awesome, right? But the community, by the 3rd week of the first month, would be questioning Patch Notes. And mainly, I think the Balance issues arise from Sony's QA not caring about the balance, and just about the bugs. Just to let you know, I think Sony QA's the patches for like 1-2 weeks every patch, so perhaps time crunch? Heard about the QA a while back was about 1 week, back when CCP started this one month patch cycle. I think. Not being a "CCP Apologist", and I understand the annoyance (Y U NO FIX FUKING MMING?) but time must be given, and promises sometimes can't be kept because some random issue. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.