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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:41:00 -
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You can add 20 new guns and it won't make any difference.
There is still nothing to aim for in this game. Factional warfare yields no long term rewards to aim for - such as a BPO suit requiring many LPs. Regular warfare is just as unyielding.
Until there is something to aim for in this game, I'm not going back to it.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:44:00 -
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Rule of Jeb, "No matter what you add to your game someone will always hate it."
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:45:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:You can add 20 new guns and it won't make any difference.
There is still nothing to aim for in this game. Factional warfare yields no long term rewards to aim for - such as a BPO suit requiring many LPs). Regular warfare is equally as unyielding.
Until there is something to aim for in this game, I'm not going back to it.
Please stop.
You're not helping anything and just sound entitled.
It's like saying, "Hey. I know you're trying to fix what's under the hood first but I'm not driving this car until you work on the paint job."
Well if they don't at least make the insides of the car function properly, the paint job doesn't mean jack.
Just wait. Sooner or later they'll get around to working on the really fun parts.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
543
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:47:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:You can add 20 new guns and it won't make any difference.
There is still nothing to aim for in this game. Factional warfare yields no long term rewards to aim for - such as a BPO suit requiring many LPs). Regular warfare is equally as unyielding.
Until there is something to aim for in this game, I'm not going back to it. Please stop. You're not helping anything and just sound entitled. It's like saying, "Hey. I know you're trying to fix what's under the hood first but I'm not driving this car until you work on the paint job." Well if they don't at least make the insides of the car function properly, the paint job doesn't mean jack. Just wait. Sooner or later they'll get around to working on the really fun parts.
Gee sorry for giving feedback that might help them realise that adding content continuously isn't going to get more people in the game. They are decorating the car before making its mechanics work. This game has no fundamentals and nothing to aim for... it doesn't need 3 new sidearms.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
544
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:49:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Rule of Jeb, "No matter what you add to your game someone will always hate it."
There's nothing saying that the number cannot be drastically decreased by perhaps... FINISHING the game before chucking in three new weapons to try out.
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:51:00 -
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Incorrect, they can add new guns, new dropsuits, new vehicles but it still doesn't change the game anyways.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:57:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:There's nothing saying that the number cannot be drastically decreased by perhaps... FINISHING the game before chucking in three new weapons to try out.
Finishing the game, how? Adding in new game modes? PvE? Who says they aren't working on those things in parallel with 1.8? They just happened to have finished the new sidearms before they finished the new game modes. What do you want them to do? Hold any new weapons and dropsuits until they finish whatever it is you want them to finish?
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
544
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:02:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:There's nothing saying that the number cannot be drastically decreased by perhaps... FINISHING the game before chucking in three new weapons to try out. Finishing the game, how? Adding in new game modes? PvE? Who says they aren't working on those things in parallel with 1.8? They just happened to have finished the new sidearms before they finished the new game modes. What do you want them to do? Hold any new weapons and dropsuits until they finish whatever it is you want them to finish?
By finishing the game I mean giving us a reason to actually play. Right now you can log off for a month and get 720000 SP. We have no reason to play and nothing to aim for. In COD/BF you would have a rank system to aim to reach, but in Dust 514, it's the same battle over and over again - I've skilled into everything I would possibly want to do, and there's nothing to do. I kind of hoped that Factional Warfare would add rare, powerful BPOs that you would have to dedicate time into achieving through earning a lot of LPs.
Plus if it takes them 3 months to add 3 new weapons, we'll only have finished adding the new dropsuits by June.
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
468
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:05:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:There's nothing saying that the number cannot be drastically decreased by perhaps... FINISHING the game before chucking in three new weapons to try out. Finishing the game, how? Adding in new game modes? PvE? Who says they aren't working on those things in parallel with 1.8? They just happened to have finished the new sidearms before they finished the new game modes. What do you want them to do? Hold any new weapons and dropsuits until they finish whatever it is you want them to finish? By finishing the game I mean giving us a reason to actually play. Right now you can log off for a month and get 720000 SP. We have no reason to play and nothing to aim for. In COD/BF you would have a rank system to aim to reach, but in Dust 514, it's the same battle over and over again - I've skilled into everything I would possibly want to do, and there's nothing to do. I kind of hoped that Factional Warfare would add rare, powerful BPOs that you would have to dedicate time into achieving through earning a lot of LPs. Plus if it takes them 3 months to add 3 new weapons, we'll only have finished adding the new dropsuits by June.
We get what your saying (except for the fanboys that are willing to be stuck in this lobby shooter forever) but it was just one dev blog not the patch notes for 1.8
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:06:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:By finishing the game I mean giving us a reason to actually play. Right now you can log off for a month and get 720000 SP. We have no reason to play and nothing to aim for. In COD/BF you would have a rank system to aim to reach, but in Dust 514, it's the same battle over and over again - I've skilled into everything I would possibly want to do, and there's nothing to do. I kind of hoped that Factional Warfare would add rare, powerful BPOs that you would have to dedicate time into achieving through earning a lot of LPs.
You want leaderboards? They exist in Dust already. Try to get to the top of it.
Get in a corp and play Caldari/Amarr FW (hardmore). Fight for the underdogs.
If that doesn't interest you then take a break until 1.9 Dust is F2P, it's not like it is costing you boatloads of money to play...
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Plus if it takes them 3 months to add 3 new weapons, we'll only have finished adding the new dropsuits by June.
New dropsuits are scheduled for 1.8... which is being released this month.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
546
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:10:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:By finishing the game I mean giving us a reason to actually play. Right now you can log off for a month and get 720000 SP. We have no reason to play and nothing to aim for. In COD/BF you would have a rank system to aim to reach, but in Dust 514, it's the same battle over and over again - I've skilled into everything I would possibly want to do, and there's nothing to do. I kind of hoped that Factional Warfare would add rare, powerful BPOs that you would have to dedicate time into achieving through earning a lot of LPs. You want leaderboards? They exist in Dust already. Try to get to the top of it. Get in a corp and play Caldari/Amarr FW (hardmore). Fight for the underdogs. If that doesn't interest you then take a break until 1.9 Dust is F2P, it's not like it is costing you boatloads of money to play... Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Plus if it takes them 3 months to add 3 new weapons, we'll only have finished adding the new dropsuits by June. New dropsuits are scheduled for 1.8... which is being released this month.
I would bet money on dropsuits not making 1.8.... -_-
Furthermore I don't want leaderboards, I don't want to be in a corporation - why? Because corporations serve little purpose currently other than playing with other people in organised teams - in EVE, corps are vital for some aspects of the game. And a leaderboard? I don't care about a leaderboard... Firstly because it would take a ridiculous amount of time to get anywhere near the top - which I don't have. Secondly, I honestly couldn't care less if I were at the top - it would make me feel obliged to play on this half-finished FPS every day just to make several dozen people look at my name for 3 seconds once a week... See? NO BENEFITS of being at the top of the leaderboard.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1251
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:12:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:You can add 20 new guns and it won't make any difference.
There is still nothing to aim for in this game. Factional warfare yields no long term rewards to aim for - such as a BPO suit requiring many LPs). Regular warfare is equally as unyielding.
Until there is something to aim for in this game, I'm not going back to it. Please stop. You're not helping anything and just sound entitled. It's like saying, "Hey. I know you're trying to fix what's under the hood first but I'm not driving this car until you work on the paint job." Well if they don't at least make the insides of the car function properly, the paint job doesn't mean jack. Just wait. Sooner or later they'll get around to working on the really fun parts. Gee sorry for giving feedback that might help them realise that adding content continuously isn't going to get more people in the game. They are decorating the car before making its mechanics work. This game has no fundamentals and nothing to aim for... it doesn't need 3 new sidearms. You got your analogy completely wrong: The car functioning properly = having a fundamental purpose The car's paint = adding new content Not how you said it... unless you genuinely believe that an FPS needs 3 more sidearms OVER it having a genuine reason to play - considering that not playing for a day gives you 24,000 SP.
._. What? You just made ugly out of my metaphor. Bringing in the weapons that will make the core game more balanced isn't "decorating," it's balancing.
You don't make sense. If they add in a new PC, a player market, PVE, and new additions to the connection with EVE before balancing weapons and adding in what that are supposed to be the core gear...They have their priorities messed up.
In my metaphor...
The car functioning properly = the gameplay mechanics working properly
The car's paint = Adding new content/having a purpose
Please enlighten me on what the Hell do you consider "having a purpose?" Do you mean having real EVE connections? Having PVE? Actual weight to our actions? Well, that's called "adding new content."
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:15:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:I would bet money on dropsuits not making 1.8.... -_-
I like ISK so I'll take that bet.
CCP Frame wrote:With Uprising 1.8 slowly taking shape, our Game Design team is now ready to share some of the Dropsuit Stats and Skills planned for release!
Furthermore I don't want leaderboards, I don't want to be in a corporation - why? Because corporations serve little purpose currently other than playing with other people in organised teams - in EVE, corps are vital for some aspects of the game. And a leaderboard? I don't care about a leaderboard... Firstly because it would take a ridiculous amount of time to get anywhere near the top - which I don't have. Secondly, I honestly couldn't care less if I were at the top - it would make me feel obliged to play on this half-finished FPS every day just to make several dozen people look at my name for 3 seconds once a week... See? NO BENEFITS of being at the top of the leaderboard.[/quote]
What are the benefits of "Ranking Up" in CoD/BF again? Does it really do anything for you other than bragging rights? It's just a form of leaderboard.
Also, if you aren't in a corporation and you don't plan on getting into one you are playing Dust wrong. You are a scrub, regardless of your K/D or lifetime warpoints, and deserve nothing.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
546
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:15:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:You can add 20 new guns and it won't make any difference.
There is still nothing to aim for in this game. Factional warfare yields no long term rewards to aim for - such as a BPO suit requiring many LPs). Regular warfare is equally as unyielding.
Until there is something to aim for in this game, I'm not going back to it. Please stop. You're not helping anything and just sound entitled. It's like saying, "Hey. I know you're trying to fix what's under the hood first but I'm not driving this car until you work on the paint job." Well if they don't at least make the insides of the car function properly, the paint job doesn't mean jack. Just wait. Sooner or later they'll get around to working on the really fun parts. Gee sorry for giving feedback that might help them realise that adding content continuously isn't going to get more people in the game. They are decorating the car before making its mechanics work. This game has no fundamentals and nothing to aim for... it doesn't need 3 new sidearms. You got your analogy completely wrong: The car functioning properly = having a fundamental purpose The car's paint = adding new content Not how you said it... unless you genuinely believe that an FPS needs 3 more sidearms OVER it having a genuine reason to play - considering that not playing for a day gives you 24,000 SP. ._. What? You just made ugly out of my metaphor. Bringing in the weapons that will make the core game more balanced isn't "decorating," it's balancing. You don't make sense. If they add in a new PC, a player market, PVE, and new additions to the connection with EVE before balancing weapons and adding in what that are supposed to be the core gear...They have their priorities messed up. In my metaphor... The car functioning properly = the gameplay mechanics working properly The car's paint = Adding new content/having a purpose Please enlighten me on what the Hell do you consider "having a purpose?" Do you mean having real EVE connections? Having PVE? Actual weight to our actions? Well, that's called "adding new content."
Nononono... bringing new sidearms to the game is decorating. The sidearms we've got right now are sufficient for balanced gameplay.
They aren't 'balancing weapons'... I'm saying that they need to fulfil those things before adding 3 redundant weapons. We've got enough weapons. We don't have enough dropsuits, we don't have any things to aim for, we aren't in control of our universe.
Having a purpose = giving us a reason to actually play it other than for fun (which I am currently reluctant to type up because this game is not fun with the lack of things to do)
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1251
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:27:00 -
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These sidearms are kinda needed in the balance since they're the core gear. It's like leaving players with nothing but the ScR and AR or limiting the assault suits to just the Caldari assault we had in beta. It's not top priority but it's still needed.
What's the point of having a purpose if the game is still crappy?
We still need:
Racial heavy weapons
The racial AV gear
The racial vehicles(at least of what we have right now)
And the last two side arms.
I'd even argue we would need some more Ewarfare equipment.
All of these are needed for gameplay balance. You can get us to dominate a planet but there will still be balancing issues that make the game not fun, if we don't address them now.
And besides all of this, the team's who work on the weapons and equipment and other battlefield assets, are unrelated with the team who work on EVE integration and "additional Dust content."
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
1013
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:34:00 -
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Our endgame is SUPPOSED to be officer weapons/modules/suits/vehicles.
You're ideally supposed to get enough isk to buy them from other players and run them whenever you play.
Unfortunately all we have is 7 salvageable(unlimited/relevant) officer items. And no P2P market to trade them.
We need these things to have a real goal.
Thats how MMOs work.
GEEEEEEETTT SOOOOOOMMMMMEEEE!!!!!!
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
491
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:37:00 -
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i think you meant there is nothing to AIM AT...
bring on PVE im sick of going up against the same straffing, tanking, noobs that play like toddlers in a football match.
give me some AI merc bots to shoot at, that use real teamwork and adopt fire postions
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
538
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:41:00 -
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We need all weapons in the game to be able to get proper balance. Until we do, all we will get is patchwork balancing attempts. The sooner all the weapons are in game the better.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1911
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:45:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:You can add 20 new guns and it won't make any difference.
There is still nothing to aim for in this game. Factional warfare yields no long term rewards to aim for - such as a BPO suit requiring many LPs). Regular warfare is equally as unyielding.
Until there is something to aim for in this game, I'm not going back to it. Please stop. You're not helping anything and just sound entitled. It's like saying, "Hey. I know you're trying to fix what's under the hood first but I'm not driving this car until you work on the paint job." Well if they don't at least make the insides of the car function properly, the paint job doesn't mean jack. Just wait. Sooner or later they'll get around to working on the really fun parts. Gee sorry for giving feedback that might help them realise that adding content continuously isn't going to get more people in the game. They are decorating the car before making its mechanics work. This game has no fundamentals and nothing to aim for... it doesn't need 3 new sidearms. You got your analogy completely wrong: The car functioning properly = having a fundamental purpose The car's paint = adding new content Not how you said it... unless you genuinely believe that an FPS needs 3 more sidearms OVER it having a genuine reason to play - considering that not playing for a day gives you 24,000 SP.
People play COD for no reasom. You get nothing out of it, you change nothing.
But people love it. ITs the most successful shooter franchise, EVER.
Having a fun game where people can play how they want is much more important then having a Impact. Every Shooter franchise ever is proof enough.
Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
156
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:50:00 -
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I bet he will QQ about 1.9 in question couple days...
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:57:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:By finishing the game I mean giving us a reason to actually play. Right now you can log off for a month and get 720000 SP. We have no reason to play and nothing to aim for. In COD/BF you would have a rank system to aim to reach, but in Dust 514, it's the same battle over and over again - I've skilled into everything I would possibly want to do, and there's nothing to do. I kind of hoped that Factional Warfare would add rare, powerful BPOs that you would have to dedicate time into achieving through earning a lot of LPs. You want leaderboards? They exist in Dust already. Try to get to the top of it. Get in a corp and play Caldari/Amarr FW (hardmore). Fight for the underdogs. If that doesn't interest you then take a break until 1.9 Dust is F2P, it's not like it is costing you boatloads of money to play... Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Plus if it takes them 3 months to add 3 new weapons, we'll only have finished adding the new dropsuits by June. New dropsuits are scheduled for 1.8... which is being released this month. I would bet money on dropsuits not making 1.8.... -_- Furthermore I don't want leaderboards, I don't want to be in a corporation - why? Because corporations serve little purpose currently other than playing with other people in organised teams - in EVE, corps are vital for some aspects of the game. And a leaderboard? I don't care about a leaderboard... Firstly because it would take a ridiculous amount of time to get anywhere near the top - which I don't have. Secondly, I honestly couldn't care less if I were at the top - it would make me feel obliged to play on this half-finished FPS every day just to make several dozen people look at my name for 3 seconds once a week... See? NO BENEFITS of being at the top of the leaderboard.
Know's a few corps that have gear replacement programs.
also end game = officer gear? Dead and oh so broke wrong.
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:36:00 -
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LOL @ Aesiron Kor-Azor
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:39:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:There's nothing saying that the number cannot be drastically decreased by perhaps... FINISHING the game before chucking in three new weapons to try out. Finishing the game, how? Adding in new game modes? PvE? Who says they aren't working on those things in parallel with 1.8? They just happened to have finished the new sidearms before they finished the new game modes. What do you want them to do? Hold any new weapons and dropsuits until they finish whatever it is you want them to finish? By finishing the game I mean giving us a reason to actually play. Right now you can log off for a month and get 720000 SP. We have no reason to play and nothing to aim for. In COD/BF you would have a rank system to aim to reach, but in Dust 514, it's the same battle over and over again - I've skilled into everything I would possibly want to do, and there's nothing to do. I kind of hoped that Factional Warfare would add rare, powerful BPOs that you would have to dedicate time into achieving through earning a lot of LPs. Plus if it takes them 3 months to add 3 new weapons, we'll only have finished adding the new dropsuits by June.
So... you think there is something to aim for in CoD and BF?
C++l, go play those and leave the forums alone.
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Onesimus Tarsus
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1386
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:41:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Incorrect, they can add new guns, new dropsuits, new vehicles but it still doesn't change the game anyways.
When CCP discovered that broken=profit, a lot of stale old development models went sailing out the skylight.
Unless you're just addicted to wetsuit paperdolls...
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