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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.03.05 14:59:00 -
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Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit?
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1244
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:01:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit?
Did we just get new stats? Saw someone post them up earlier but they looked like the stats we received in January.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:02:00 -
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The entire patch is meh. I am not disappointed I haven't had much faith in CCP for most of Uprising. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3027
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:02:00 -
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If they gave it a much lower depleted shield delay I think it could be a good suit.
To me the problem with the Minmatar suits is that they are supposed to be the fast suits, but for every variant you can do the job better with a Gallente suit because of the low slots.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
40
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:03:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? |
Cyrius Li-Moody
3932
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:09:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked?
-lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
570
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:10:00 -
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Needs one more Low and a removal of the Explosive Bonus, make it so that it only effects Explosive Sidearms.
Minmatar Assault + MD, get ready for explosive spam.
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
ISK Milkshakes for all! (Except the pubbers)
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Cyrius Li-Moody
3934
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:13:00 -
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Spamming an MD is the only thing this suit is going to be good at.
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
169
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:15:00 -
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What is the bonus?
Does it still only have 2 lows?
EDIT - OH same
Well the stamina is good since it only has 2 lows. The dmg mod and rifle nerfs make the suit even more undesirable though.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Cyrius Li-Moody
3934
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:16:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:What is the bonus?
Does it still only have 2 lows?
Still only 2 lows. Same fitting resources. Increased clip size for projectile and explosives.
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
448
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:16:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:What is the bonus?
Does it still only have 2 lows?
yes
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jhon hartigan
Maphia Clan Corporation
106
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:17:00 -
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that stamina recharge rate, OMG!!!! |
Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
52
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:17:00 -
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Screwing with suit bonuses on a large scale better mean free goddamn respecs. |
Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
169
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:22:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:that stamina recharge rate, OMG!!!!
You are gonna need it.
What does this suit have going for it?
Sucks to be Minnie right now - will see how stuff plays out but looks like an uphill climb
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
520
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:40:00 -
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The buffs are random to say the least. About time they actually made the shields worth running tho.
I dunno, the stam buff will be fun to mess with. There's literally NO WAY it could get worse than its current form. So worst case scenario I'll be just as useless in 1.8 as I am in 1.7 but at least I can run further.
Forget damage mods, Kin cat and Shield Reg then stack ext.
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Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising
495
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:13:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? -lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10 Besides the deplete delay, the buffs and nerfs it got are completely random. im mad about the innate armor regen. With only @ f***king lows that regen was crucial for me.
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
816
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:23:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? -lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10 Besides the deplete delay, the buffs and nerfs it got are completely random. im mad about the innate armor regen. With only @ f***king lows that regen was crucial for me.
My biggest issue is that right now I have to run a CPU mod in one of my lows to get 4 complex shield extenders and a complex damage mod on my proto Min. assault. I put a enhanced armor plate in my other low and rely on that 1 HP per sec to slowly regen armor as I move between engagements, you know..if I manage to stay alive.
Now if shield extenders cost less I could ditch the CPU mod and run an enhanced reactive plate and be fine or if shields were made a little better so I didn't have to add some armor tank I would be fine. But with the state of shields as they are Minmatar assaults suffer the most from shield deficiencies.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
350
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:30:00 -
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I'm just trying to wrap my head around the Stamina Regen...
Also upset that the MD gets no buff from the bonus now.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10559
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Posted - 2014.03.06 22:24:00 -
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Buff the hell out of that shield regen, IMHO. I'm talking 40 HP/s, short delay.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
925
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Posted - 2014.03.06 22:28:00 -
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I'm ok with what they've done so far. The slot and systems are going to be redesigned for all the suits later.
Hopefully then the low slot count can be readdressed
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Rinzler XVIII
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:19:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit?
It's the same story for the Caldari Assault Suit
At least the Min Assault gets a good racial bonus with an increased clip size
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Buff the hell out of that shield regen, IMHO. I'm talking 40 HP/s, short delay.
Now we're talking.
Rinzler XVIII wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? It's the same story for the Caldari Assault Suit At least the Min Assault gets a good racial bonus with an increased clip size
Combine the Min Assault bonus with the Caldari Assault layout and you would have a good suit that actually works like a minmatar suit should IMO.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1952
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:21:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? It's the same story for the Caldari Assault Suit At least the Min Assault gets a good racial bonus with an increased clip size
Except the increased clip size doesn't affect most Minmatar weapons. |
Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
245
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:26:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? -lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10 Besides the deplete delay, the buffs and nerfs it got are completely random.
Hacking buff for the assault? Why take that away from the logi (where it kind of mad sense!) and give it to the assault?? Assaults should be assaulting, not hacking!!!
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2547
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:26:00 -
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I don't think it's that bad.
You lost the 1hp but gained better hack speed and a amazing bonus.
Least ehp, most speed, 2nd highest base stamina and other bits and bobs.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
354
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:31:00 -
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Dimmu Borgir II wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? -lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10 Besides the deplete delay, the buffs and nerfs it got are completely random. Hacking buff for the assault? Why take that away from the logi (where it kind of mad sense!) and give it to the assault?? Assaults should be assaulting, not hacking!!!
The Logi has it, its 5% less than Lvl 5 now, but its innate.
Min Assault has a 1.05 base hack (all other Assaults, Commandos, and Heavys are at base 1), the Logi has 1.2 (all other Logis have a 1.15), and the Scout has a 1.1 (all other Scouts have a 1.05).
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
681
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:32:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? It's the same story for the Caldari Assault Suit At least the Min Assault gets a good racial bonus with an increased clip size
+1 Liked.
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
245
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:48:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Dimmu Borgir II wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? -lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10 Besides the deplete delay, the buffs and nerfs it got are completely random. Hacking buff for the assault? Why take that away from the logi (where it kind of mad sense!) and give it to the assault?? Assaults should be assaulting, not hacking!!! The Logi has it, its 5% less than Lvl 5 now, but its innate. Min Assault has a 1.05 base hack (all other Assaults, Commandos, and Heavys are at base 1), the Logi has 1.2 (all other Logis have a 1.15), and the Scout has a 1.1 (all other Scouts have a 1.05).
Thanks man, I hadn't seen those stats, I heard that we Min Logis were losing the hack bonus, according to what you're saying, we have a 20% bonus with 1.8?
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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Cyrius Li-Moody
3960
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:54:00 -
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Dimmu Borgir II wrote:
Thanks man, I hadn't seen those stats, I heard that we Min Logis were losing the hack bonus, according to what you're saying, we have a 20% bonus with 1.8?
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Medium_Frames.png
There you gooooo
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
506
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:56:00 -
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i think its perfect :) the only viable assault suit out of the new tweeks anyway..
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4514
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:14:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? -lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10 Besides the deplete delay, the buffs and nerfs it got are completely random. The loss of the built in armor rep completely screws me over in every single aspect that counts.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Yeeeuuuupppp
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
145
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:38:00 -
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I was gonna get minnie assault but now they ruined it.. I don't use md and I don't use flaylock .. CCP TROLL
My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash.
Novice incubus pilot.
Feel the wrath of my troll.
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
245
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:45:00 -
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This seems pretty bad, all other assault suits have at least base armor or base shields into the 200's, minmatar have neither and the depleted recharge delay is higher even than the caldari... why would anyone chose minmatar over anything else???? Because you can run further???! **** that!
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
820
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:48:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Rinzler XVIII wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? It's the same story for the Caldari Assault Suit At least the Min Assault gets a good racial bonus with an increased clip size Except the increased clip size doesn't affect most Minmatar weapons.
I disagree with that. I love having 100 rounds in my SMG as is and there is many a time when if I had a few more rounds in my CR I would have won an engagement instead of losing it. But I still will miss my +1 armor regen, not enough to leave the class, but it will be missed.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1736
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:19:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:ads alt wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How was it tweaked? -lost innate armor regen -stamina regen is now 50 (higher than a scout) -5% hacking buff -8 second deplete delay instead of 10 Besides the deplete delay, the buffs and nerfs it got are completely random. I think CCP's take on this suit is that they intend it to be out roaming the hills, probably alone.
Ofc that's just pure outtamyass speculation since CCP haven't told us sweetfkall about what they intend for this suit.
I support SP rollover.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2431
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:24:00 -
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95 bullets in my ACR...
Just saying...
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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
206
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:29:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:95 bullets in my ACR...
Just saying...
thats just evil and wrong ........ on so many levels
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
540
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:34:00 -
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Looking at the suit stats,it's basically has become a better light assault having better biotic stats than all other suits in it's frame size,you could probably run for DAYS with two complex stm mods which are alot cheaper in cpu pg than kin cats.
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
65
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Posted - 2014.03.07 02:09:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Anybody else just completely let down about the way they tweaked this suit? How did they change it? I'm thinking of skilling into it if we get a respect
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
182
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Posted - 2014.03.07 02:10:00 -
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Yup
On second look I think I will have one as my secondary with MD and SMG
Kin Cat and Basic Reactive / Adv Ferro / Comp Shield Reg - Basic Dmg Mod and extenders with one energizer
A different kind of flanker
Have no clue how it stacks against the others but I will have some fun
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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ninjamonster
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2014.03.07 03:38:00 -
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Honestly how the world are we supposed to play this suit?? |
Beck Weathers
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
664
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Posted - 2014.03.07 03:53:00 -
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ninjamonster wrote:Honestly how the world are we supposed to play this suit??
Like a scout that dosent cloak, cant hide from scans, and has a larger hitbox?
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
542
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:00:00 -
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I will have 3 main builds in 1.8
Stack extenders Kin cat Shield regs Acr/m209
3shield ext /energizer 2 regs Md/SMG
extenders cardiac reg (maybe damp?) Cpu Cloak AR/SMG
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