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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.03.05 14:40:00 -
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The AR master in me wants to say, "HEY that 4 point decrease in damage is hurting me."
But then I go and check the stats and realize...
The RR just received a huge nerf. Standard goes from 55 to 47, and the Kalaakotiota goes from 60.1 to 51.7.
The Combat Rifle goes from 32 pts of damage to 27 with the Boundless going from 35.2 to 29.7.
The Scrambler Rifle gets punched down from 72 to 65 while the Viziam is 79.2 to 71.5
MEANWHILE. THE ASSAULT RIFLE GETS NERFED BY 4 PTS. OMG THE INSANITY.
Really, I think people are just flipping out because that's what they're the best at. The variants of the AR are pretty much the same as before. Some liked where the variants were at, others don't. Imo, I could've dealt with less of a nerf on the tactical but we'll see how well it does in 1.8.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Onesimus Tarsus
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1381
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Posted - 2014.03.05 14:49:00 -
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Just watch carefully for the new rifles and tree-SP needed, they'll be straight killers.
Remove tanks from DUST 514. Thanks.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1924
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Posted - 2014.03.05 14:51:00 -
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The variants have a lower DPS than AR right now.
Come 1.8 they'll be better than AR in every measurable way.
ACR will truly be king of the assault weapons
MD/MSMG 514
Assault ak.0: 2x extender, 1x energiser, 2x regulator, 1x repper. Any advice?
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1244
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Posted - 2014.03.05 14:59:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:The variants have a lower DPS than AR right now.
Come 1.8 they'll be better than AR in every measurable way.
ACR will truly be king of the assault weapons
We'll have to wait and see. Right now, the ACR sucks in comparison to the AR because it's too fast and the recoil can be gnarly. And don't get me started on the ammo and clip. The AR is steady and allows for more versatility. If the most recent Minmatar Assault bonus stays the same, the ACR, and CR for that matter, will at least get a buff for their ammo.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
643
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:13:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:The AR master in me wants to say, "HEY that 4 point decrease in damage is hurting me."
But then I go and check the stats and realize...
The RR just received a huge nerf. Standard goes from 55 to 47, and the Kalaakotiota goes from 60.1 to 51.7.
The Combat Rifle goes from 32 pts of damage to 27 with the Boundless going from 35.2 to 29.7.
The Scrambler Rifle gets punched down from 72 to 65 while the Viziam is 79.2 to 71.5
MEANWHILE. THE ASSAULT RIFLE GETS NERFED BY 4 PTS. OMG THE INSANITY.
Really, I think people are just flipping out because that's what they're the best at. The variants of the AR are pretty much the same as before. Some liked where the variants were at, others don't. Imo, I could've dealt with less of a nerf on the tactical but we'll see how well it does in 1.8.
The thing is the AR is still outmatched by the other racial counterparts. So the CR does still way more DPS, the RR still delivers roughly the same DPS at way greater range. To make things even worse the SR gets less nerfed than the Tac AR so the gap between the two even got wider making the SCR currently the overall best semi automatic rifle.
And not to forget the MagSec delivers nearly the same combat performance like the AR. This means the AR has practically been degrades to a sidearm...
Yeah totally great changes :/.
The only good thing is the adjustment of Damage mods... |
shadow drake35
Mocking Bird Inc.
70
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:14:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:The AR master in me wants to say, "HEY that 4 point decrease in damage is hurting me."
But then I go and check the stats and realize...
The RR just received a huge nerf. Standard goes from 55 to 47, and the Kalaakotiota goes from 60.1 to 51.7.
The Combat Rifle goes from 32 pts of damage to 27 with the Boundless going from 35.2 to 29.7.
The Scrambler Rifle gets punched down from 72 to 65 while the Viziam is 79.2 to 71.5
MEANWHILE. THE ASSAULT RIFLE GETS NERFED BY 4 PTS. OMG THE INSANITY.
Really, I think people are just flipping out because that's what they're the best at. The variants of the AR are pretty much the same as before. Some liked where the variants were at, others don't. Imo, I could've dealt with less of a nerf on the tactical but we'll see how well it does in 1.8. what they did was right cr and rr were way op viziam was a 1 shot kill when charged
The Mercenary Way
Who careswhat i use as long as the job is done and i get paid.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
290
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:17:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:The AR master in me wants to say, "HEY that 4 point decrease in damage is hurting me."
But then I go and check the stats and realize...
The RR just received a huge nerf. Standard goes from 55 to 47, and the Kalaakotiota goes from 60.1 to 51.7.
The Combat Rifle goes from 32 pts of damage to 27 with the Boundless going from 35.2 to 29.7.
The Scrambler Rifle gets punched down from 72 to 65 while the Viziam is 79.2 to 71.5
MEANWHILE. THE ASSAULT RIFLE GETS NERFED BY 4 PTS. OMG THE INSANITY.
Really, I think people are just flipping out because that's what they're the best at. The variants of the AR are pretty much the same as before. Some liked where the variants were at, others don't. Imo, I could've dealt with less of a nerf on the tactical but we'll see how well it does in 1.8.
And how you can see, there is some people who will CRYmetheRIVER all the way basicaly because that is Caldari tek (what is mostly).
Support - Tactician/Support
Deteis - Orator
BHD since MAG
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1105
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:27:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:The AR master in me wants to say, "HEY that 4 point decrease in damage is hurting me."
But then I go and check the stats and realize...
The RR just received a huge nerf. Standard goes from 55 to 47, and the Kalaakotiota goes from 60.1 to 51.7.
The Combat Rifle goes from 32 pts of damage to 27 with the Boundless going from 35.2 to 29.7.
The Scrambler Rifle gets punched down from 72 to 65 while the Viziam is 79.2 to 71.5
MEANWHILE. THE ASSAULT RIFLE GETS NERFED BY 4 PTS. OMG THE INSANITY.
Really, I think people are just flipping out because that's what they're the best at. The variants of the AR are pretty much the same as before. Some liked where the variants were at, others don't. Imo, I could've dealt with less of a nerf on the tactical but we'll see how well it does in 1.8.
Wouldn't make a difference bro. Some people will still keep crying about weapons that kills them (Specially the ones they didn't spec into) Normally the weapons all the cry babies spec into are the "Skilled Weapons" and everything else is EZ mode. That's just dust playerbase logic and CCP listens to them no matter what the actual facts are. Like i've mentioned before, all it takes is a few cry baby posts on the forums and One can overcome their weaknesses by nerfing their enemies lol |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
341
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:31:00 -
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The change to proficiency will hurt a lot of weapons far more than the slight base damage nerfs. In fact the change to prof still makes the rail & cr better than the assault. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1246
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:41:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The change to proficiency will hurt a lot of weapons far more than the slight base damage nerfs. In fact the change to prof still makes the rail & cr better than the assault.
How so?
The way I took the proficiency change is that, the damage bonuses we gain will only apply to what the weapon is most effective against.
E.G. My AR adds the proficiency skill's bonus damage to shields but not to armor. It stop the weapons from being more effective against the tank that's resistant to them.
At first glance it sounds OP but it would pretty much be the same way it is right now except it becomes harder to kill us when dealing with resistant material.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1216
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Posted - 2014.03.05 15:46:00 -
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the AR will be far supiror then the ACR against shields. so up against a shield based opponents you would most definatly swap the ACR for either an AR (for cqc) or a ScR if your more inclined.
basically working as intended.
its either that or you get good with fluxes |
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