DUST Search - sniping in 1.8 is going to SUCK!!!!

calisk galern wrote:

Obodiah Garro wrote:

**** sniping.

Am glad this change will make sniping firstly nerfed against everybody then secondly against shields.

Imagine this, assholes that bring no strategic value have a harder time getting kills while sitting on top of towers/mountains Shocked

seems cool.

Now, if your typical sniper was somebody who took the time to properly cover a console so nobody could hack a point, or go out his way to purposely kill off squad leaders or forge gunners, Id be a little bit sad. Guess what, majority dont so suck it up and hunt out the people already in half armor.

do you think they will stop sniping?

lol no, why do you think I want snipers to be made useful, they will never stop even if they only get 1 kill a game.

let me ask all the haters one question, snipers have literally been going down a steady decline to worthless flaylock levels since 1.1 to now, do you honestly see any less amount of snipers in the games?

**** no, you still gets dozens of these worthless blue dots doing nothing and that will never change.

stop trying to remvoe snipers by making them worse, either make them useful or remove the damn gun -.-

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calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2048	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:14:00 - [1] - Quote so let me explain. sniper rifles will be losing about 10% overall damage from the change to the mods, then they will be losing all of their bonus damage to shields from their proficiencies, and THEN everyone will be triple stacking shield mods now since damage mods are mostly garbage. in other words i'd say a minimum of 1 extra hit to kill someone, probably more, and in the case of shield heavies probably not at all.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 248	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:16:00 - [2] - Quote calisk galern wrote: so let me explain. sniper rifles will be losing about 10% overall damage from the change to the mods, then they will be losing all of their bonus damage to shields from their proficiencies, and THEN everyone will be triple stacking shield mods now since damage mods are mostly garbage. in other words i'd say a minimum of 1 extra hit to kill someone, probably more, and in the case of shield heavies probably not at all. was 3-5 hitting heavies not enough ccp? you needed to make it worse again? More than 10. I always had at least 3 on mine. Headshots or go home. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2484	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:22:00 - [3] - Quote Tough, get down from the hills and work the letters. Hail Satan
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1091	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:24:00 - [4] - Quote dent 308 wrote: Tough, get down from the hills and work the letters. Agreed... CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2050	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:24:00 - [5] - Quote dent 308 wrote: Tough, get down from the hills and work the letters. I haven't sniped since 1.3, at least as my main role, i do it for laughs from time to time. because that's all sniping is worth, I just despise seeing game designers completely destroy roles in their game through sheer neglect. we've done this dance before, every patch they make sniping worse, every patch I make this thread, every patch they do nothing, patch gets deployed, and surprise surprise sniping becomes more of a useless role, this time it's going to be on flay lock levels if the heavy fotm trend kicks up.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1616	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:24:00 - [6] - Quote IB4 new racial sniper rifles... The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1445	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:28:00 - [7] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: IB4 new racial sniper rifles... IB4 Commando heavy p*ssies with two different racial rifles. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Noremac Nagaho Red Hand Syndicate 20	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:28:00 - [8] - Quote Not in a Caldari Commando Ck.0 +10% damage at LV5, get prof up to 5, shove 3 nerfed complex damage mods of your @$$, pick up at charge or Thales, and use a compact hive. The only half decent sniping fit out there come 1.8 Plus, It will probably be a sweet looking suit. (mat black+red highlights heavy armored master chief)
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 171	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:36:00 - [9] - Quote Thale's + bullet in head. No problem! Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2050	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:38:00 - [10] - Quote Mregomies wrote: Thale's + bullet in head. No problem! still wouldn't kill a shield heavy, hell that doesn't even kill my sniper fit in the current build

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 924	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:40:00 - [11] - Quote calisk galern wrote: just get rid of the gun already =/ Couldn't agree more.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2731	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:40:00 - [12] - Quote This is a valid point. I said before that since the fix to hit detection did not decrease the TTK for high Alpha weapons such as the Sniper Rifle and Shotgun, that measures to increase TTK for automatic weapons would likely translate to a nerf to high Alpha weapons. Some High Alpha weapons have received some consideration: - Nova Knife Proficiency is keeping the damage bonus for both Shield & Armour. - Mas Drivers are getting a buff. It will be hard to know for sure until things play out, but it is looking like Sniper Rifle and Shotgun will likely need a buff after this. Ion Pistol is coming Pre Nerfed just as the Plasma Cannon did. It you donGÇÖt like your weapons being nerfed, then skill into Ion Pistol. It can only go up from here. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1235	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:43:00 - [13] - Quote Well if Sniping allowed for constant insta-kills or Hell...just an easier TTK, most people would end up running snipers. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2051	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:47:00 - [14] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Well if Sniping allowed for constant insta-kills or Hell...just an easier TTK, most people would end up running snipers. well their are other ways to make sniping more useful then just killing people, if you focus on their role as spotters for example then they can relay information to the team, which would be a great role for them after the nerf to scanners. give them spotting bonuses and allow them to mark players so the whole team can see. you could increase their head shot multiplayer making them more of a skill shot weapon. there are ways, ccp just doesn't explore them
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 172	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:48:00 - [15] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Mregomies wrote: Thale's + bullet in head. No problem! still wouldn't kill a shield heavy, hell that doesn't even kill my sniper fit in the current build also balancing around officer weapons is just stupid, as mentioned before let's make every weapon completely garbage unless you use their officer version.... Do we need to OHK every kind of fits? No we don't. 1 shot in face makes heavy go to cover. And shield heavy won't be at the frontline (imo) Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 740	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:51:00 - [16] - Quote **** sniping. Am glad this change will make sniping firstly nerfed against everybody then secondly against shields. Imagine this, assholes that bring no strategic value have a harder time getting kills while sitting on top of towers/mountains seems cool. Now, if your typical sniper was somebody who took the time to properly cover a console so nobody could hack a point, or go out his way to purposely kill off squad leaders or forge gunners, Id be a little bit sad. Guess what, majority dont so suck it up and hunt out the people already in half armor. Nemo me impune lacessit
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2053	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:55:00 - [17] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: ** sniping. Am glad this change will make sniping firstly nerfed against everybody then secondly against shields. Imagine this, assholes that bring no strategic value have a harder time getting kills while sitting on top of towers/mountains seems cool. Now, if your typical sniper was somebody who took the time to properly cover a console so nobody could hack a point, or go out his way to purposely kill off squad leaders or forge gunners, Id be a little bit sad. Guess what, majority dont so suck it up and hunt out the people already in half armor. do you think they will stop sniping? lol no, why do you think I want snipers to be made useful, they will never stop even if they only get 1 kill a game. let me ask all the haters one question, snipers have literally been going down a steady decline to worthless flaylock levels since 1.1 to now, do you honestly see any less amount of snipers in the games? ** no, you still gets dozens of these worthless blue dots doing nothing and that will never change. stop trying to remvoe snipers by making them worse, either make them useful or remove the damn gun -.-
mollerz 2605	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:55:00 - [18] - Quote Snipers won't get to just hang in a perch and go 8+/0. They will actually have to work. So sad. Too bad. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2053	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:57:00 - [19] - Quote mollerz wrote: Snipers won't get to just hang in a perch and go 8+/0. They will actually have to work. So sad. Too bad. your right now they will hang out and do nothing for your team and go 2/0 while you die 15 times. always fun.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 466	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:57:00 - [20] - Quote You fools using your damage mods with your charged sniper rifle lol. The Militia sniper rifle was always good enough for me, but with these changes all I'll have to do is switch to one of the advanced sniper rifles. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.

Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 742	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:57:00 - [21] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: ** sniping. Am glad this change will make sniping firstly nerfed against everybody then secondly against shields. Imagine this, assholes that bring no strategic value have a harder time getting kills while sitting on top of towers/mountains seems cool. Now, if your typical sniper was somebody who took the time to properly cover a console so nobody could hack a point, or go out his way to purposely kill off squad leaders or forge gunners, Id be a little bit sad. Guess what, majority dont so suck it up and hunt out the people already in half armor. do you think they will stop sniping? lol no, why do you think I want snipers to be made useful, they will never stop even if they only get 1 kill a game. let me ask all the haters one question, snipers have literally been going down a steady decline to worthless flaylock levels since 1.1 to now, do you honestly see any less amount of snipers in the games? ** no, you still gets dozens of these worthless blue dots doing nothing and that will never change. stop trying to remvoe snipers by making them worse, either make them useful or remove the damn gun -.- Agreed, they should just remove the weapon for the good of the game, those useless blue dots could actually do something if they are out in the field, even if it is just to feed a proto stomp or whatever. Hell they might even go and hack an undefended objective, that would blow my mind. Nemo me impune lacessit
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 19	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:58:00 - [22] - Quote I'm so happy, I hate snipers so much c: G.L.O.R.Y solider, Master of the Heavy
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2053	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:58:00 - [23] - Quote da GAND wrote: You fools using your damage mods with your charged sniper rifle lol. The Militia sniper rifle was always good enough for me, but with these changes all I'll have to do is switch to one of the advanced sniper rifles. case in point
Sum1ne Else WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 931	Posted - 2014.03.05 14:02:00 - [24] - Quote calisk galern wrote: dent 308 wrote: Tough, get down from the hills and work the letters. I haven't sniped since 1.3, at least as my main role, i do it for laughs from time to time. because that's all sniping is worth, I just despise seeing game designers completely destroy roles in their game through sheer neglect. we've done this dance before, every patch they make sniping worse, every patch I make this thread, every patch they do nothing, patch gets deployed, and surprise surprise sniping becomes more of a useless role, this time it's going to be on flay lock levels if the heavy fotm trend kicks up. You are a LIAR. Saw you sniping against us 2 days ago..you had an AE, STB and couple of others on your team. You got killed too many times and there you are sniping..*** Edit: we were only using std and adv gear as always, and you are losing so lets all go into the redline and snipe, ***** hate snipers! they are scum. The only time you should snipe is if you are getting hit and killed by snipers therefore you counter snipe. WTF. Public Relations WJR Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2053	Posted - 2014.03.05 14:05:00 - [25] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: calisk galern wrote: dent 308 wrote: Tough, get down from the hills and work the letters. I haven't sniped since 1.3, at least as my main role, i do it for laughs from time to time. because that's all sniping is worth, I just despise seeing game designers completely destroy roles in their game through sheer neglect. we've done this dance before, every patch they make sniping worse, every patch I make this thread, every patch they do nothing, patch gets deployed, and surprise surprise sniping becomes more of a useless role, this time it's going to be on flay lock levels if the heavy fotm trend kicks up. You are a LIAR. Saw you sniping against us 2 days ago..you had an AE, STB and couple of others on your team. You got killed too many times and there you are sniping..***** I did? I've been running heavy for 2 weeks for the event O.o as mentioned earlier I snipe for laughs from time to time, or on the odd occasion snipe for laughs when people try to hold high ground, but I really don't do it as my main. look i'm specced into sniping, heavies, tanks, logi's, 8 different guns, every form of av, and lav's. I switch around a lot as the situation calls for it.
Sum1ne Else WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 931	Posted - 2014.03.05 14:07:00 - [26] - Quote Yup, Domination in the bowl type map where theres normally a table top socket to the side of the letter where a supply depot and CRU is. You had the hill (the adv in any case) Public Relations WJR Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2054	Posted - 2014.03.05 14:10:00 - [27] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: Yup, Domination in the bowl type map where theres normally a table top socket to the side of the letter where a supply depot and CRU is. You had the hill (the adv in any case) lol I always snipe that map if I'm on that side, theirs just enough cover that I can ground snipe and not get killed by rail rifles constantly, while not enough cover that the opposing team will make me useless, I also get to kill a ton of snipers since everyone else has the same idea. must of been early in the heavy event though that was back when I thought i couldn't run his fat ass on that open map, that was before i got good with them, and learned about the wonders of lav's =). yep one map was left where a sniper could still do his job, at least I made an impression I suppose since you remembered, but I don't think any time I'm sniping that i'm being useful.


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