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Gawen Eadan
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.04 07:24:00 -
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I would like to link you to the google document for the description and mechanics of the weapons, along with some general numbers.
Heavy Weapons; A step in a better direction
I hope you enjoy and consider providing your input below. I'll be answering any questions and input upon being quoted, that are at least partially thought out.
This is an original document, you can make a copy, and write your own revision based on your opinions, but I would appreciate retaining my credit for the hours I spent pouring my mind over a keyboard. |
Gawen Eadan
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.04 14:57:00 -
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*pushes bact to page 1*
Comon, no one? Seen less effort and worse ideas go ten pages. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:51:00 -
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Too much lore jargon, I would recommend separating the stats and general functions of the weapon in separate paragraphs from the lore explanations. Would be better if the lore and appearance parts were labeled as such in case someone just wants to get to the real meat.
On the Amarr AI weapon: Feels like you just want a laser version of the HMG, not exactly interesting in the role its meant to fit since HMG does it pretty well already.
I'm sorry, but I didn't think any of these were really that compelling. That being said, I do appreciate the effort you put into this, and we really do desperately need more heavy weapons.
I do think it would be better if CCP focuses on getting 1 heav weapon per race out, instead of 2; development time and cost. The way I envision heavy weapons are really powerful weapons capable of being effective against infantry and vehicles (for example, I think the HMG should be able semi-effective damage tanks), so while one may be primarily AI, it should be useful against vehicles, and while one may be AV, it may be useful against infantry (like forge guns).
As someone who is interested in heavy weapons, I think you should take a look at this. I'm sorry if it appears like I'm knocking on your idea and trying to push my own.
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Gawen Eadan
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.04 22:20:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
I do plan to have a proper spreadsheet to compliment my explanations, I will consider separating, or atleast making the stats more prominent for people who just want the meat, as you put it.
I agree with what you said about the Amarr Ai weapon, it was meant to be a the shield variant of the hmg which is technically the armor weapon. I feel like the damage on it was high though, given the damage modifier idea, and may tweak it down a bit.
And I have no problems with you supplying links to your idea, dust is supposed to be built off the community, and it's opinion. just look at logis, they used to be vibrant yellow, we complained, and instead find them in a shade that is less screaming "shoot me". that being just one example. I'll definitely give your ideas a look though, and include you in the credits with your permission to use anything of course, I'll ask first.
I will comment that I felt the lore nessecary. Eve is a lore filled universe, and everything in eve has a purpose and explanation. to its existence. While not all players may embrace this, I tried to satisfy those who would criticize me for weapons that didn't fit with the universe or who made them. |
Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:00:00 -
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Finally got around to reading this Gawen. It's well thought out and elaborate. The stats you do have, I recommend putting in a table at the end of each weapon's section so that people would be able to see it more simplified. As you know I'm not fond of Heavy Weapons; they're just not my thing, but these appear well balanced for heavy weapons, which by nature are supposed to be devastating and more powerful than light weapons at the cost of mobility.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories.
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Gawen Eadan
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:31:00 -
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thank you, I am. currently working at imputting the information into a spreadsheet, I just lack the time at the moment.
I like a compliment as much as the next blueberry, but don't go easy on me because we're in the same corp, I want hard criticism, mind, that might not be completely able without those sheets of data... |
CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:22:00 -
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my thoughts for a galente heavy weapon wrap around a slightly scaled down version of the large blaster turret for havs currently.
for basic stats i was thinking an rof of around 600.
dmg per shot around 50. with clip size of 125.
with possibly an overheat(by any chance of it being too op) as well as base ammo capacity around 600.
not sure how well this would work out though. but total damage per clip is roughly similar to that of the minmatar hmg currently. |
Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:56:00 -
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Nicely done, looks very detailed.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:48:00 -
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1: I see others mentioned the separation part, so I won't beat the dead horse
2: None of these seem very unique; they are basically do the same thing but with different stats. Also might add that in the case of the Caldari and Amarr AI weapons, lore already exists for those to have a heavy weapon, and unique ones at that (Gauss Rifle and Arc Cannon), so making a dull new weapon is pointless.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Parinoid Andriod4
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.23 21:52:00 -
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This is good stuff, if these are too "dull" im not sure what we call the combat rifle, rail rifle, laser rifle, and assault rifle (not saying they arn't fun). these seem viable and as much as I've always wanted a shield destroying weapon of mass death by shock (is this what that arc cannon you speak of is?) , if ccp used your ideas i would be very happy. |
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