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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1995
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Posted - 2014.03.04 05:54:00 -
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I've been on a bf4 binge for sometime, so I decided to play Dust for an hour....or try.
It was still the same game I devoted the last year of my life to, but it doesn't make me giggle anymore.
Maybe it was that I was lagging even with a 50mb/s connection, or maybe it was the loading fittings glitch that happened over and over.
However, I think the biggest problem for me was that I lost the drive. I have a good 300,000,000 ISK, 30,000,000 SP, and nothing to really work for. I have everything prototype and spending 1,250,000 SP just to have 3% higher damage doesn't seem worth it to me. It's the grind. It got to me. I feel that the entire skill system is wrong.
I don't like how one level costs exponentially less than the previous (or at least it feels that way). Honestly, why go past op5prof1 on ANYTHING when the weapon or suit will likely get nerfed....
And now that I'm on suits, they take 1 straight month of boosters and grinding to earn. ONE SUIT that will get nerfed if it is any use at all.
I'd like it better if I could log on every day and spend a small amount of SP for a very small bonus to something...ANYTHING. Literally everything you do should have an associated skill. And multipliers should not work as they do to calculate SP costs. There should be 100 levels possible for every skill. On a lower tier skill, costs could be 15,000 SP/lvl, so to max a skill is 1,500,000 SP. The bonus would be small, but it'd make me feel better logging on and putting that hours worth of grind into SOMETHING. Then every increment of 20 points in a skill, or 33, or whatever, a certain new item of that type is made available in a different tier...Or maybe get rid of tiers altogether and have the power of an item come from the SP you put in it (tiercide).
Anyway, I'm sick of the grind and if there MUST be a grind, I'd like it to feel more...like Candycrush.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1357
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Posted - 2014.03.04 05:57:00 -
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Why not go for breadth? 30m doesn't let you master tanking, ADSing, scout, assault, logibro, and heavy. If your role has gotten stale, skill into another one. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
11919
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Posted - 2014.03.04 05:58:00 -
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This game needs PvE
I've been playing the exact same match for 2 years now.
It's literally painful.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
931
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Posted - 2014.03.04 05:59:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I've been on a bf4 binge for sometime, so I decided to play Dust for an hour....or try.
It was still the same game I devoted the last year of my life to, but it doesn't make me giggle anymore.
Maybe it was that I was lagging even with a 50mb/s connection, or maybe it was the loading fittings glitch that happened over and over.
However, I think the biggest problem for me was that I lost the drive. I have a good 300,000,000 ISK, 30,000,000 SP, and nothing to really work for. I have everything prototype and spending 1,250,000 SP just to have 3% higher damage doesn't seem worth it to me. It's the grind. It got to me. I feel that the entire skill system is wrong.
I don't like how one level costs exponentially less than the previous (or at least it feels that way). Honestly, why go past op5prof1 on ANYTHING when the weapon or suit will likely get nerfed....
And now that I'm on suits, they take 1 straight month of boosters and grinding to earn. ONE SUIT that will get nerfed if it is any use at all.
I'd like it better if I could log on every day and spend a small amount of SP for a very small bonus to something...ANYTHING. Literally everything you do should have an associated skill. And multipliers should not work as they do to calculate SP costs. There should be 100 levels possible for every skill. On a lower tier skill, costs could be 15,000 SP/lvl, so to max a skill is 1,500,000 SP. The bonus would be small, but it'd make me feel better logging on and putting that hours worth of grind into SOMETHING. Then every increment of 20 points in a skill, or 33, or whatever, a certain new item of that type is made available in a different tier...Or maybe get rid of tiers altogether and have the power of an item come from the SP you put in it (tiercide).
Anyway, I'm sick of the grind and if there MUST be a grind, I'd like it to feel more...like Candycrush.
I think you should have everything for free. Seriously, it's the only way to balance the game in a fair way. Cuz you know, what's the point of busting your balls to run that OP sh!t, if it's gonna be maybe, eventually, if CCP stops having nonending 'job-well-done' holidays and parties, nerfed at the end of the day.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
979
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Posted - 2014.03.04 06:05:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:
And now that I'm on suits, they take 1 straight month of boosters and grinding to earn. ONE SUIT that will get nerfed if it is any use at all.
Spec into a meh suit and make it good, just like us scouts do.
Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running.
Delt for CPM1
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1415
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Posted - 2014.03.04 06:52:00 -
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You mean, Candy Box?
Or Bejeweled? |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1495
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Posted - 2014.03.04 06:58:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I've been on a bf4 binge for sometime, so I decided to play Dust for an hour....or try.
It was still the same game I devoted the last year of my life to, but it doesn't make me giggle anymore.
Maybe it was that I was lagging even with a 50mb/s connection, or maybe it was the loading fittings glitch that happened over and over.
However, I think the biggest problem for me was that I lost the drive. I have a good 300,000,000 ISK, 30,000,000 SP, and nothing to really work for. I have everything prototype and spending 1,250,000 SP just to have 3% higher damage doesn't seem worth it to me. It's the grind. It got to me. I feel that the entire skill system is wrong.
I don't like how one level costs exponentially less than the previous (or at least it feels that way). Honestly, why go past op5prof1 on ANYTHING when the weapon or suit will likely get nerfed....
And now that I'm on suits, they take 1 straight month of boosters and grinding to earn. ONE SUIT that will get nerfed if it is any use at all.
I'd like it better if I could log on every day and spend a small amount of SP for a very small bonus to something...ANYTHING. Literally everything you do should have an associated skill. And multipliers should not work as they do to calculate SP costs. There should be 100 levels possible for every skill. On a lower tier skill, costs could be 15,000 SP/lvl, so to max a skill is 1,500,000 SP. The bonus would be small, but it'd make me feel better logging on and putting that hours worth of grind into SOMETHING. Then every increment of 20 points in a skill, or 33, or whatever, a certain new item of that type is made available in a different tier...Or maybe get rid of tiers altogether and have the power of an item come from the SP you put in it (tiercide).
Anyway, I'm sick of the grind and if there MUST be a grind, I'd like it to feel more...like Candycrush.
I got all my extra stuff after the cap. I put my weekly points into my trades and my 1500s into whatev. Now I have everything. I have very few things I can buy for less than 261k.
Who wants some?
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7102
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Posted - 2014.03.04 07:09:00 -
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Honestly, we should move to 100% passive SP.
We should grind for ISK, nothing more nothing less.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
639
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Posted - 2014.03.04 09:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Honestly, we should move to 100% passive SP.
We should grind for ISK, nothing more nothing less.
The more I think of it the more I agree. Just imagine how much work CCP wasted to limit WP/SP gain, prevent boosting or AFK farming and we still haven't git the rollover so there is even more developer work needed to make Active SP attractive. If all this development power had gone to the game...(And sadly none of this effort really worked)
Only passive SP solves a lot things but I guess CCP will never do the step even thogh most of our SP are already passively gained |
Orenji Jiji
356
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Posted - 2014.03.04 10:05:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I've been on a bf4 binge for sometime, so I decided to play Dust for an hour....or try.
It was still the same game I devoted the last year of my life to, but it doesn't make me giggle anymore.
Are you 100! yet? 110? You feel accomplished?
There are other games. I've actually took time to do TLOU, Infinite and will start Dead Space 3 bought on the cheap a few days ago. Check in from time to time, but there is not point in forcing yourself.
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Maybe it was that I was lagging even with a 50mb/s connection, or maybe it was the loading fittings glitch that happened over and over.
Throughput =/= latency. Haven't seen fitting glitch in months.
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:However, I think the biggest problem for me was that I lost the drive. I have a good 300,000,000 ISK, 30,000,000 SP, and nothing to really work for. I have everything prototype and spending 1,250,000 SP just to have 3% higher damage doesn't seem worth it to me. It's the grind. It got to me. I feel that the entire skill system is wrong.
Nope. First of all you don't have everything proto. I'm 30M SP/300M ISK and I've got two proto suits, one advanced suit, two or three proto weapons and maxed out core skills.
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I'd like it better if I could log on every day and spend a small amount of SP for a very small bonus to something...ANYTHING. Literally everything you do should have an associated skill. And multipliers should not work as they do to calculate SP costs. There should be 100 levels possible for every skill. On a lower tier skill, costs could be 15,000 SP/lvl, so to max a skill is 1,500,000 SP. The bonus would be small, but it'd make me feel better logging on and putting that hours worth of grind into SOMETHING. Then every increment of 20 points in a skill, or 33, or whatever, a certain new item of that type is made available in a different tier...Or maybe get rid of tiers altogether and have the power of an item come from the SP you put in it (tiercide).
Blah blah blah clone battlefield blah. Well yeah, that would completely STOP the GRIND that you started your argument with. LOL.
Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Anyway, I'm sick of the grind and if there MUST be a grind, I'd like it to feel more...like Candycrush.
BB.
And when you grow a pair try skilling into scout or heavy and having fun again. I went proto Gal scout and I literally run 11k ISK Dragonfly scout 99% of the time. Two weapons I've got proficiency in, remote explosive and voila. Instant fun. Hell, when I get bored I run it with BPO SMG only.
And if I don't have fun I play other games. Because that's what not being a tryhard means.
SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, Scout beast-mode. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die.
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Deltahawk Durango
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
127
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:10:00 -
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candy crush is SO 2013... all about the flappy bird now...
I don't believe in an eye for an eye...
I believe in two eyes for an eye!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1887
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:14:00 -
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Deltahawk Durango wrote:candy crush is SO 2013... all about the flappy bird now...
I don't see the appeal, tbh.
I mean, clearly I enjoy watching numbers ticking up; I've played DUST for over a year.
But really.
Forge on for great justice!
Defend the meek! Destroy the weak!
Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
848
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:42:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Why not go for breadth? 30m doesn't let you master tanking, ADSing, scout, assault, logibro, and heavy. If your role has gotten stale, skill into another one. This. Im going for cal scout when 1.8 drops, but I also want to skill into missile tanks and forge guns. I'm very excited.
Battle field got stale for me because you cant choose your progression, there is no sense of loss when you die, and no sense of ownership. When I call in my dropship its my dropship, not the maps dropship spawn point. Idk if you like that then play it, but dust is a damn good game. The only other thing I could suggest is try carving your own section of molden heath, sp and isk is only part of that. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
148
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Posted - 2014.03.04 12:58:00 -
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Bad broke LOL F2P lobby shooter will always be a Bad broke LOL F2P lobby shooter, meh.
Why ^ ?
Because CCP, thats why.
DUST514 I love the dream but not the current product.
Dusters - WhenGäó
CCP - SoonGäó
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
638
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:00:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I've been on a bf4 binge for sometime, so I decided to play Dust for an hour....or try.
It was still the same game I devoted the last year of my life to, but it doesn't make me giggle anymore.
Maybe it was that I was lagging even with a 50mb/s connection, or maybe it was the loading fittings glitch that happened over and over.
However, I think the biggest problem for me was that I lost the drive. I have a good 300,000,000 ISK, 30,000,000 SP, and nothing to really work for. I have everything prototype and spending 1,250,000 SP just to have 3% higher damage doesn't seem worth it to me. It's the grind. It got to me. I feel that the entire skill system is wrong.
I don't like how one level costs exponentially less than the previous (or at least it feels that way). Honestly, why go past op5prof1 on ANYTHING when the weapon or suit will likely get nerfed....
And now that I'm on suits, they take 1 straight month of boosters and grinding to earn. ONE SUIT that will get nerfed if it is any use at all.
I'd like it better if I could log on every day and spend a small amount of SP for a very small bonus to something...ANYTHING. Literally everything you do should have an associated skill. And multipliers should not work as they do to calculate SP costs. There should be 100 levels possible for every skill. On a lower tier skill, costs could be 15,000 SP/lvl, so to max a skill is 1,500,000 SP. The bonus would be small, but it'd make me feel better logging on and putting that hours worth of grind into SOMETHING. Then every increment of 20 points in a skill, or 33, or whatever, a certain new item of that type is made available in a different tier...Or maybe get rid of tiers altogether and have the power of an item come from the SP you put in it (tiercide).
Anyway, I'm sick of the grind and if there MUST be a grind, I'd like it to feel more...like Candycrush.
This god awful grind. So sick of it.
Same maps
Same objectives
Same ol ****
And for what? So we can proto stomp all day long. Hate redlining a team or being redlined, my matches always turn into waiting games.
Just wait for the timer to run out. Why, because we have no will to play your game anymore CCP.
Why do you think there is a new COD every year? Cause this **** get OLD. Especially when I was promised more of a "game" than this.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
638
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:03:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Honestly, we should move to 100% passive SP.
We should grind for ISK, nothing more nothing less.
More fun ways to grind for it please.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
0uter.Heaven
434
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:07:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Honestly, we should move to 100% passive SP.
We should grind for ISK, nothing more nothing less. More fun ways to grind for it please.
No, i think skirmish, domination, ambush game modes is enough.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
285
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:13:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I've been on a bf4 binge for sometime, so I decided to play Dust for an hour....or try.
It was still the same game I devoted the last year of my life to, but it doesn't make me giggle anymore.
Maybe it was that I was lagging even with a 50mb/s connection, or maybe it was the loading fittings glitch that happened over and over.
However, I think the biggest problem for me was that I lost the drive. I have a good 300,000,000 ISK, 30,000,000 SP, and nothing to really work for. I have everything prototype and spending 1,250,000 SP just to have 3% higher damage doesn't seem worth it to me. It's the grind. It got to me. I feel that the entire skill system is wrong.
I don't like how one level costs exponentially less than the previous (or at least it feels that way). Honestly, why go past op5prof1 on ANYTHING when the weapon or suit will likely get nerfed....
And now that I'm on suits, they take 1 straight month of boosters and grinding to earn. ONE SUIT that will get nerfed if it is any use at all.
I'd like it better if I could log on every day and spend a small amount of SP for a very small bonus to something...ANYTHING. Literally everything you do should have an associated skill. And multipliers should not work as they do to calculate SP costs. There should be 100 levels possible for every skill. On a lower tier skill, costs could be 15,000 SP/lvl, so to max a skill is 1,500,000 SP. The bonus would be small, but it'd make me feel better logging on and putting that hours worth of grind into SOMETHING. Then every increment of 20 points in a skill, or 33, or whatever, a certain new item of that type is made available in a different tier...Or maybe get rid of tiers altogether and have the power of an item come from the SP you put in it (tiercide).
Anyway, I'm sick of the grind and if there MUST be a grind, I'd like it to feel more...like Candycrush. This god awful grind. So sick of it. Same maps Same objectives Same ol **** And for what? So we can proto stomp all day long. Hate redlining a team or being redlined, my matches always turn into waiting games. Just wait for the timer to run out. Why, because we have no will to play your game anymore CCP. Why do you think there is a new COD every year? Cause this **** get OLD. Especially when I was promised more of a "game" than this.
Dont worry boyo, do it like me. Preorder Destiny.
Support - Tactician/Support
Deteis - Orator
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1210
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:14:00 -
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you NEED to take up assault dropship as an in game hobby
TRUST ME
its quite possably one of the most rewarding experiances in the game has the closest non corp/faction related community where even when pilots are against each other we always seem to be helping each other out and giving advice.
your experiance as a tanker and your SP already invested make it alot easyer for you then most. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3316
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:15:00 -
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I get that you don't like it man but there's no need for profanity.
I shouldn't have to log in & see the C words so casually thrown around like that.
No.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1435
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:28:00 -
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Skylanders best game evarrrr!
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
527
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:20:00 -
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I'm an advocate of giving us lots of skills with lesser bonuses. So we would have say, 3 GÇ£tiersGÇ¥ in any proficiency skill but instead of giving 3% per level, it will give us 1%. Imagine having AR Proficiency 1 at level 5 (5% extra damage) and level 2 in AR proficiency 2 (for a total of 7% extra damage). The cost of proficiency 1 skills would be minimal, then tier 2 skills would be 2x multipliers, with proficiency tier 3 having a 3x multiplier.
Perhaps even have just two tiers: - AR Proficiency 1 (+1% damage per level, 1x multiplier) - AR Proficiency 2 (+2% damage per level, 3x multiplier)
Making skills cost the same overall but for a quicker boost ij the beginning is what will entice players to keep grinding.
Edit: The proficiency skill is just an example and you could do the same for any skill that provides a bonus like the basic armour or shield skills. |
Onesimus Tarsus
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
1332
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:29:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:This game needs PvE
I've been playing the exact same match for 2 years now.
It's literally painful.
The butthurt is strong in this one.
Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
454
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:34:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:This game needs PvE
I've been playing the exact same match for 2 years now.
It's literally painful.
I've been here for nearly two years now and I completely agree, nothing has actually changed. That's why I mostly play BF4 now, it's a lobby shooter but I had so much more fun playing 1 hour online than my whole experience with Dust.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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Onesimus Tarsus
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
1332
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:35:00 -
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da GAND wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This game needs PvE
I've been playing the exact same match for 2 years now.
It's literally painful. I've been here for nearly two years now and I completely agree, nothing has actually changed. That's why I mostly play BF4 now, it's a lobby shooter but I had so much more fun playing 1 hour online than my whole experience with Dust.
You can't handle this diverse shooter, according to some.
Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
454
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:39:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:da GAND wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This game needs PvE
I've been playing the exact same match for 2 years now.
It's literally painful. I've been here for nearly two years now and I completely agree, nothing has actually changed. That's why I mostly play BF4 now, it's a lobby shooter but I had so much more fun playing 1 hour online than my whole experience with Dust. You can't handle this diverse shooter, according to some.
how long have you been playing this game?
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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Oswald Rehnquist
1267
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:40:00 -
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I'm playing thief right now (oh god ch 5 was crazy) and Dark souls 2 comes out in a little over a week, pending how good 1.8 is I'll mix it up more in there but Dust is formatted in a way that you can put it down and resurrect it at a later time while still being relevant due to all the built in mechanics which keep the gap between players.
Below 28 dB
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
454
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:41:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I'm playing thief right now (oh god ch 5 was crazy) and Dark souls 2 comes out in a little over a week, pending how good 1.8 is I'll mix it up more in there but Dust is formatted in a way that you can put it down and resurrect it at a later time while still being relevant due to all the built in mechanics which keep the gap between players.
I'm just really hoping 1.8 isn't worth one week just like every other patch since uprisings release.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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Onesimus Tarsus
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
1335
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:42:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:da GAND wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This game needs PvE
I've been playing the exact same match for 2 years now.
It's literally painful. I've been here for nearly two years now and I completely agree, nothing has actually changed. That's why I mostly play BF4 now, it's a lobby shooter but I had so much more fun playing 1 hour online than my whole experience with Dust. You can't handle this diverse shooter, according to some. how long have you been playing this game?
Today?
Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
454
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:48:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:da GAND wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:da GAND wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This game needs PvE
I've been playing the exact same match for 2 years now.
It's literally painful. I've been here for nearly two years now and I completely agree, nothing has actually changed. That's why I mostly play BF4 now, it's a lobby shooter but I had so much more fun playing 1 hour online than my whole experience with Dust. You can't handle this diverse shooter, according to some. how long have you been playing this game? Today?
Forget it lol , honestly there's really nothing new for me to do in this game that I want to do. I'm fine with the suits that I have right now. I don't want to go put my SP into vehicles, PC is expensive and laggy skirmish which isn't that different from the pub skirmish mode. Been playing Skirmish,Ambush and Domination for way too long now. FW is still mostly like pub skirmish matches also, plus I don't want to play it cuz we don't get any isk from it at all. It would be nice to get a bit of isk to live off the LP store. And meanwhile in my quarters..... well it's the same as it was in chromosme and whatever the weird build was that we had before that I barely played.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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