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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.04 05:47:00 -
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*Alternate name: crucifier*
[General idea] Amarr
Heavy weapon
Semi-automatic
High pinpoint hipfire accuracy
No aim-down-sight
High damage
Medium range
Low rate of fire
Heat buildup and overheat
Laser damage profile (+20% damage against shields, -20% damage against armor)
Decent against vehicles
[Preliminary stats (standard tier)] Damage: 190
Rate of fire: 60 rounds per minute (1 per second).
*Alternatively, it could be charge to fire (like forge gun) with 1 second charge time Damage per second: 190 (it fires 1 round per second)
Accuracy rating:
Range (optimal/effective): 50/70 meters
Magazine: 20
Reload speed: 6 seconds
Overheat: after 7 consecutive shots (1,330 damage before overheating, enough to kill most heavies)
Feedback damage: 100
Efficacy all against vehicles: 50% (must also factor damage profile).
[Purpose] A high alpha damage precision marksmen weapon suitable for anti-infantry combat from close to mid-long ranges, and capable dealing similar damage per second as a sniper rifle at close range with hipfire, wile also being semi-effective against vehicles for versatility. The HMG is a great weapon for dealing with infantry at close range, but it is terrible for precision shots, and also terrible at mid-long ranges. The forge gun has amazing range, but the long charge time makes it not ideal for fighting infantry; the large aiming crosshair makes it not quite a precision weapon either. The impaler (or crucifier) would provide heavies with a precision anti-infantry, and mid-long range option they are currently lacking, while also providing them modest anti-vehicle capabilities. The impaler (or crucifer) would allow a heavy to take the role of a good marksmen. he high alpha damage would make it very effective, but the low DPS would keep it from being overpowered.
"Why not just use a scrambler rifle and keep charge shotting?" That would be a recipe for very quick overheat, and the impaler (or crucifier) would do more damage per second. The charge function of the scrambler rifle multiplies damage by 3.5, so a standard fully charged scrambler rifle does 252 damage, but the charge time is 2 seconds, so the damage per second is only 126. The impaler (or crucifier) does 190 damage per second at standard tier, and largely exceeds the damage per second of charge shots. Furthermore, the impaler (or crucifier) could fire 7 shots before overheating and dealing 1,330 damage, while the scrambler rifle would overheat after just 3 consecutive charge shots dealing only 756 damage.
[Appearance] A big long Golden Amarr weapon held similarly like the forge gun or HMG with handle is on the side of the weapon. The weapon envelops the hand of the holder. Visual inspiration: here, here, here, & here
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:I think I know a few amarrians who would enjoy this. I know I would, but as a caldari I fear it more. This and the arc cannon, this being the anti infantry heavy weapon for the amarr. It would do 288 damage against shields and 192 damage against armor when you have prof V and a complex damage mod on. Be afraid, be very afraid. Image with 2 compex damage mods and proto... Sooooooo coooooooool
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:40:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Supportin'
Sounds much better than my own idea for an Amarr heavy weapon. Just searched your post, and found your idea for the Amarr heavy weapon. That one is also pretty cool, though I don't think the coilgun is needed since Caldari already have the forge gun, and the Gallente one didn't sound that interesting. The laser cannon idea sounds very fun.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.04 20:51:00 -
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Anyone else want to impale enemies? Might make an alt called Vlad the Impaler to use this gun.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.05 07:31:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:i like the concept but i think it should have semi lock-on and by that i mean it have a little red circle (or something) and will lock on to a target after .5-.9 seconds (depending on variant / tier) once locked on they stay locked on until you stop locking on or they break line of sight can fire without lock on to lock on you zoom in(doesn't actually zoom in)
when you fire while locked on it will do minor corrections to hit target( no more than 10 degrees) I don't think its needed with perfect hipfire accuracy
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.05 07:34:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Sounds like the amarr scrambler lance I've heard rumors about Turns out CCP Logibro was just trolling on IRC when he said the scrambler lance, and its not like there was an actual description mentioned.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:06:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:And now that I read more of it, great concept! But a heavy weapon who's dps is only 190...look I understand that rifles are getting a nerf and infantry combat is just getting a complete makeover but that's a bit low, honestly I would take any rifle over that, at long range when an enemy hasn't seen you yet and they're out of cover it seems like a great weapon but what happens when conditions aren't perfect? pew...pew...pew...in those 3 seconds any other gun will have wiped out all of a heavy's health, meanwhile you did 570, not much on the field that can be killed with that.
I don't know what infantry combat in 1.8 is going to be like so I can't really speculate how well this would fit but yes while the damage over time, per round, per clip, before the overheat, is great and worthy of a heavy weapon... it takes 11 seconds to do that 2000 damage if you land every hit...by a basic HMG this damage could be done in about 2.5-3 seconds and then keep on going, by a forge gun this damage could be done in like 8 seconds tops and still keep going, literally every gun's dps is higher, and several of them have the same range
Double the firing speed and then I'll be interested.
I understand that the numbers don't matter and really results do but if the numbers are that disproportionate you can predict something will go wrong. I get your issue with it, but high alpha and high DPS combined together would lead to balance issue. The HMG has really high DPS, but sacrifices a lot of range for it. The impaler concept has very good range compared to the HMG, and very high alpha damage, so I think a DPS tradeoff is fair. I think doubled fire rate would be too much, but I think I would be fine with like 1.5 rounds per second (90 rounds per minute) for 285 DPS if a buff is needed.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.06 14:54:00 -
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Hynox Xitio wrote:I'd still run with my trusty HMG, but this looks pretty good, no real complaints from me. Do you have any concept art of it? I'd love to see some sort of drawing for it. I also created my own weapon concept, the Aether Hive, if you'd like I could draw you some basic concept art, just tell me what you'd want it to look like. :D I have no concept art for it, but I have a variety of images linked in the bottom of the original post to act as visual inspiration, they each contain elements of what I would like to see, but the first one is almost perfect. I encourage you to click them.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.10 20:03:00 -
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/me impales all those who disagree
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:13:00 -
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Perhaps impaling enemies just isn't as popular as it once was. Look at that pretty background.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:24:00 -
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Shrike would also be a good name for it, a bird that impales others.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.15 02:20:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:Honestly it lacks.....flavor.....a charge.....an overheat....something.....maybe a rather large projectile or beam.....a charge would be nice but that's kind of the scrambler rifles thing.....
1 Maybe it just has one gigantic magazine so it never reloads but if fired too many times it will overheat
2 Or it could charge but instead of increasing the damage of the shot it makes the beam larger...great for swatting pesky lavs as they speed by
Great idea but it needs some spice I'd like an automatic version or idea 2 above It does have overheat. I don't think it needs a charge, but that would also be cool I suppose. An automatic "assault" variant would be nice.
EDIT: OOH! What if the charge makes burst it fire many rapid consecutive beams! Charge for 3 seconds and it fires 2 beams, charge for 4 seconds and it fires 3 beams.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.17 22:14:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:don't detract from the flamethrower idea kagehoshi Can have both. Gallente do the plasma flamethrower, Amarr do the impaler.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.19 21:40:00 -
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[Possible charge abilities]: Someone suggested i should have a charge function. I kind of like the idea, here are some possible charge functions it could have. Continuous beam: fully charged, it could fire a beam that fires for a full 2 seconds.
Burst fire: When fully charged, three shots are fired in quick succession.
[Possible variants] Breach: more damage, less fire rate, possibly better damage efficacy percentage against vehicles.
Something else: does something.
Updated OP with this
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:15:00 -
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I wish to pierce the flesh of my enemies with laser-induced plasma channels; using lasers to ionize a pathway in the air for which to fire an electrical burst through.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.04.05 05:08:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:There has to be an assault variant Added it to the OP few hours ago.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:00:00 -
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/me crucifies those who don't like the idea
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:40:00 -
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Anyone else want?
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