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bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 117	Posted - 2014.03.04 04:08:00 - [1] - Quote Imagine your weapon Proficiency skill going up to level 8 instead of 5. Caldari commandos with Thale's sniper rifles... shudders bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
Lonewolf Heavy ROGUE SPADES 109	Posted - 2014.03.04 04:19:00 - [2] - Quote yea but thats the point of the new perk. So commandos will do better in their specialized weapons, then other people Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;) Commando/Heavy Willing to PC for anyone for a low price
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 75	Posted - 2014.03.04 04:21:00 - [3] - Quote we will see how it all turns out once 1.8 is here. Assault Gk.0 Gallente Federation Patriot General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 118	Posted - 2014.03.04 09:56:00 - [4] - Quote have you guys seen what extra damage does in this game? i can already see commandos being god mode with the only thing that can take them 1 on 1 being sentinels if they can even get close enough, or a sneaky scout. Amarr commandos with SR will one-shot most assault and logi suits, and melt them within a second or two with a LR Caldari commandos with RR will two or three shot them, not to mention sniper rifles Gallente commandos will make the Duvolle AR a terror to be feared again And they will be even scarier in city maps With Minmatar commandos waiting behind a corner one-shotting you with a combat rifle, or decimating groups of people with a mass driver And Gallente commandos will one or two shot them with a shotgun Most importantly I think medium suits are getting the short straw in 1.8 because I mean, how useful is light weapon clip size, accuracy, etc. compared to the raw offensive power of a commando and defensive power of a sentinel? bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 793	Posted - 2014.03.04 10:27:00 - [5] - Quote The commando was always designed to be a damage dealer (the assault is more like a grunt of DUST) so this really doesn't surprise me in the least. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 303	Posted - 2014.03.04 10:32:00 - [6] - Quote You know what its about time medium suits got shafted for once Real heavies use lasers
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 118	Posted - 2014.03.04 10:55:00 - [7] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: You know what its about time medium suits got shafted for once first of all both of the minmatar medium suits have always been the worst suits in the game second caldari have been weak for a long time since they nerfed caldari assault; shields are bullshit in this game most importantly medium suits were pretty evenly matched with heavies and scouts, and now they're going to be cannon fodder and I think that's stupid, this game needs to be balanced not biased bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 303	Posted - 2014.03.04 12:44:00 - [8] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Shadow Archeus wrote: You know what its about time medium suits got shafted for once first of all both of the minmatar medium suits have always been the worst suits in the game second caldari have been weak for a long time since they nerfed caldari assault; shields are bullshit in this game most importantly medium suits were pretty evenly matched with heavies and scouts, and now they're going to be cannon fodder and I think that's stupid, this game needs to be balanced not biased You obviously haven't been here long....the min logi had its day..... I'm reffering to the long period of time where heavies turn speed was so low if anything got within 10 m you were screwed The period where the hmg was a laser beam that was useless in cqb The period of time where heavy run speed was lower and the Douvolle was THE weapon to use Mediums have had their time buddy.....you're just late to the party Real heavies use lasers
X7 lion SWAMPERIUM 130	Posted - 2014.03.04 13:45:00 - [9] - Quote with every strength is a weekness, you must not approach a player ingame as a statistic. I am death incarnate, you will not see me or hear me. You shall only feel the strike of my blade.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4479	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:08:00 - [10] - Quote Yeah, they'll also be slow and with low stamina. They get all the negatives of the heavies and only half the HP. They won't be that bad. If you catch one out in the Open they are as good as dead. Think about it, the Amarr Commando has about 600 HP, and it will have the Most HP out of all the Commandos. Any well fitted medium suit will kill them without flinching. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior

Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 303	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:16:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, they'll also be slow and with low stamina. They get all the negatives of the heavies and only half the HP. They won't be that bad. If you catch one out in the Open they are as good as dead. Think about it, the Amarr Commando has about 600 HP, and it will have the Most HP out of all the Commandos. Any well fitted medium suit will kill them without flinching. My amarr commando has 800 HP.......and realistically that's not alot Real heavies use lasers
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 37	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:09:00 - [12] - Quote bamboo x wrote: have you guys seen what extra damage does in this game? i can already see commandos being god mode with the only thing that can take them 1 on 1 being sentinels if they can even get close enough, or a sneaky scout. Amarr commandos with SR will one-shot most assault and logi suits, and melt them within a second or two with a LR Caldari commandos with RR will two or three shot them, not to mention sniper rifles Gallente commandos will make the Duvolle AR a terror to be feared again And they will be even scarier in city maps With Minmatar commandos waiting behind a corner one-shotting you with a combat rifle, or decimating groups of people with a mass driver And Gallente commandos will one or two shot them with a shotgun Most importantly I think medium suits are getting the short straw in 1.8 because I mean, how useful is light weapon clip size, accuracy, etc. compared to the raw offensive power of a commando and defensive power of a sentinel? Fear the sneaky scouts! Boost your squad's points by 40%, learn to use the Squad Wheel! I provide training: 1M isk: 90 Minutes of Basic Command
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 798	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:55:00 - [13] - Quote Commandos are halfway between medium and heavy suits. We should change it to between light and medium suits. Then they will be glass cannons. They slaughter everything, but in turn are slaughtered by everything. This also means that they can use stealth to set up ambushes. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 128	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:57:00 - [14] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Most importantly I think medium suits are getting the short straw in 1.8 because I mean, how useful is light weapon clip size, accuracy, etc. compared to the raw offensive power of a commando and defensive power of a sentinel? As a person who has played EVE since 2005 and dust since open beta, I can confirm that CCP has a long history of overbuffing what was weak, and overnerfing what was OP. (Rather than merely balancing). I see nothing different going on here. Logi suits have been OP for a long time, and with the equipment nerf, and buff to non-medium suits coming in 1.8, they will become the new flaylock pistol (remember when people used to use those?).
ugg reset Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 504	Posted - 2014.03.05 02:19:00 - [15] - Quote commandos may have power but they have the heavy frames P-scan strength. My Gal scout will have them chasing their shadows, and that's before I cloak up. Also, I've hear that CCP will be reworking the Weapon Proficiency skills in 1.8 so to assume maxed commandos will have 25% more damage before mods may be a mistake. Thr33 is the magic number.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 123	Posted - 2014.03.05 06:12:00 - [16] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: The period where the hmg was a laser beam that was useless in cqb close quarters butt secks bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 123	Posted - 2014.03.05 06:14:00 - [17] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, they'll also be slow and with low stamina. They get all the negatives of the heavies and only half the HP. They won't be that bad. If you catch one out in the Open they are as good as dead. Think about it, the Amarr Commando has about 600 HP, and it will have the Most HP out of all the Commandos. Any well fitted medium suit will kill them without flinching. You are neglecting the possible damage mod nerf But they will be unmatched at long range with some cover bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7870	Posted - 2014.03.05 06:43:00 - [18] - Quote bamboo x wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, they'll also be slow and with low stamina. They get all the negatives of the heavies and only half the HP. They won't be that bad. If you catch one out in the Open they are as good as dead. Think about it, the Amarr Commando has about 600 HP, and it will have the Most HP out of all the Commandos. Any well fitted medium suit will kill them without flinching. You are neglecting the possible damage mod nerf But they will be unmatched at long range with some cover That is the purpose of the Commando suit. Long range fire and suppression. However properly fitted a Commando can also offer Mid range fire support to a very effective level. I already use mine, I already go 15+ kills a match, and I don't even fit damage modules.....now perhaps I will be on par DPS wise with you all.......then there will be hell to pay. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 127	Posted - 2014.03.05 11:28:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: bamboo x wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, they'll also be slow and with low stamina. They get all the negatives of the heavies and only half the HP. They won't be that bad. If you catch one out in the Open they are as good as dead. Think about it, the Amarr Commando has about 600 HP, and it will have the Most HP out of all the Commandos. Any well fitted medium suit will kill them without flinching. You are neglecting the possible damage mod nerf But they will be unmatched at long range with some cover That is the purpose of the Commando suit. Long range fire and suppression. However properly fitted a Commando can also offer Mid range fire support to a very effective level. I already use mine, I already go 15+ kills a match, and I don't even fit damage modules.....now perhaps I will be on par DPS wise with you all.......then there will be hell to pay. I think its good that the commando will start to see some use. With the confirmation of a somewhat universal balancing of weapons maybe even the poor old plasma cannon will see some use bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines 477	Posted - 2014.03.05 11:49:00 - [20] - Quote bamboo x wrote: have you guys seen what extra damage does in this game? i can already see commandos being god mode with the only thing that can take them 1 on 1 being sentinels if they can even get close enough, or a sneaky scout. Amarr commandos with SR will one-shot most assault and logi suits, and melt them within a second or two with a LR Caldari commandos with RR will two or three shot them, not to mention sniper rifles Gallente commandos will make the Duvolle AR a terror to be feared again And they will be even scarier in city maps With Minmatar commandos waiting behind a corner one-shotting you with a combat rifle, or decimating groups of people with a mass driver And Gallente commandos will one or two shot them with a shotgun Most importantly I think medium suits are getting the short straw in 1.8 because I mean, how useful is light weapon clip size, accuracy, etc. compared to the raw offensive power of a commando and defensive power of a sentinel? Since these weapons have been nerfed by approximately 10%. And than "Damage" proficiency is gone and than damager is nerfed. The Commando Bonus is erased by the rifles nerf. / Damager are lower / No more proficiency damage. They will NEVER be equal or more powerful than they actually are. So keep Calm and wait more informations.

Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 54	Posted - 2014.03.05 15:55:00 - [21] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Imagine your weapon Proficiency skill going up to level 8 instead of 5. Caldari commandos with Thale's sniper rifles... shudders Snipers are already taking a huge hit from the damage mod nerf. 3 dmg mods was +24.4% dmg.. now its 12.2%
Donn Cuailgne Sad Panda Solutions 4	Posted - 2014.03.05 20:42:00 - [22] - Quote Not without muh melee. :^(
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 131	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:27:00 - [23] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: bamboo x wrote: Imagine your weapon Proficiency skill going up to level 8 instead of 5. Caldari commandos with Thale's sniper rifles... shudders Snipers are already taking a huge hit from the damage mod nerf. 3 dmg mods was +24.4% dmg.. now its 12.2% i want to believe those numbers but where did you figure that out from? And yes guys I made this thread before the dev blog was released ok calm down bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 523	Posted - 2014.03.05 23:54:00 - [24] - Quote I've seen a quote attributed to CCP Logibro that Commandos are DUST's most specialized role and that they can't adapt to a changing battlefield because of that specialization. How does that work? If I could fit two light weapons, they would be exactly different weapons. That dudes way off? Rail Rifle. His friend got up close? Combat Rifle. What does Logibro mean when he says commandos are so specialized? DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 136	Posted - 2014.03.05 23:56:00 - [25] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: I've seen a quote attributed to CCP Logibro that Commandos are DUST's most specialized role and that they can't adapt to a changing battlefield because of that specialization. How does that work? If I could fit two light weapons, they would be exactly different weapons. That dudes way off? Rail Rifle. His friend got up close? Combat Rifle. What does Logibro mean when he says commandos are so specialized? Slow and easy to kill. But honestly I see 1.8 giving the commando a serious buff. bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7882	Posted - 2014.03.06 00:01:00 - [26] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: I've seen a quote attributed to CCP Logibro that Commandos are DUST's most specialized role and that they can't adapt to a changing battlefield because of that specialization. How does that work? If I could fit two light weapons, they would be exactly different weapons. That dudes way off? Rail Rifle. His friend got up close? Combat Rifle. What does Logibro mean when he says commandos are so specialized? Slow and easy to kill. But honestly I see 1.8 giving the commando a serious buff. As they are requiring. They are exactly as Logibro describes them. Aero put together a projected Commando skill tree that one should follow from Basic to Proto level gear, basic being the least combat function, barely able to combat most foes with something in the region of 3 million SP against it to the fully specced proto fit at something like 18-20 Million SP making the Commando perhaps the most combat efficient at range unit available to us players. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum


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