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        |  LT SHANKS
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 1578
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:33:00 -
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 This is an honest question; can they? If a player had enough funds to run a prototype/complex setup in every match while going positive, would that be considered proto stomping?
 
 
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        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Learning Coalition College
 
 4193
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:37:00 -
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 Honestly, there's no need to right now because the higher tiers of scouts aren't exactly huge upgrades.
 
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        |  Beck Weathers
 Ghosts of Dawn
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 608
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:37:00 -
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 I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you
 
 These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see. | 
      
      
        |  Awry Barux
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 1353
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:38:00 -
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 IMHO, no. Proto-stomping to me refers to winning purely via damage + EHP advantage. Proto scouts generally have neither, therefore no.
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        |  Heathen Bastard
 The Bastard Brigade
 
 1065
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:41:00 -
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 not really, they have the least growth per SP in terms of suits. but at the same time, they have one of the best bonuses as it is equally effective for any of their suits.
 
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        |  Joel II X
 Dah Gods O Bacon
 
 1409
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:42:00 -
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 Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Honestly, there's no need to right now because the higher tiers of scouts aren't exactly huge upgrades. *Looks at my passive radar* SUUUUURE.
 
 Gallente Scout for Hall of Fame plaque.
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        |  Disturbingly Bored
 The Strontium Asylum
 
 1855
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:42:00 -
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 Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you 
 Indeed. Too bad Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane aren't around any more to keep the fear of the scout alive, too.
 
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        |  Patrick57
 
 5702
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:50:00 -
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 Disturbingly Bored wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you Indeed. Too bad Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane aren't around any more to keep the fear of the scout alive, too. I've played against Lightning xVx (he went 32/2 that match), Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane in Chrome (I got so mad D:), and seeing Roner General on the other team generally makes me want to leave the match.
 
 I also played against Cubs back in Chrome when I was the biggest ******* noob ever. I still remember how mad that match made me. :(
 
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        |  Cotsy8
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 17
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:53:00 -
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 1. Proto stomping has to occur as a team. A coordinated effort amongst highly skilled, high SP players who seek to stomp lesser skilled/noobs in a public match by using their superior equipment/suits to outmatch, outgun, and out strategize players who lack these things.
 
 2. You can stomp with any class set up, even scouts, as Outer Heaven can clearly demonstrate. It's about the running of a superior gear regardless of clas etc.. As a team. In fact, you may see 1.8 Proto stomping by scout teams utilizing the Cal scout to identify targets and a team of fast moving + cloaked players.
 
 3. Lastly, Proto stompers avoid other elite teams. So when you see a possible balanced matchup. Its best to leave the lobby and seek a group of noobs to battle instead of better players. You don't want any competition or chance of dying.
 
 - Cots
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        |  Turtle Hermit Roshi
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 210
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 02:56:00 -
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 LT SHANKS wrote:This is an honest question; can they? If a player had enough funds to run a prototype/complex setup in every match while going positive, would that be considered proto stomping?
 
 
 
 only top teir scouts like djinn maurauder
 and lightning
 
 most scouts dont need to run proto gear tho cus a dragonfly bpo does dope still
 
 Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for,
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        |  Sgt Buttscratch
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 
 1911
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:00:00 -
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 Cotsy8 wrote:1. Proto stomping has to occur as a team. A coordinated effort amongst highly skilled, high SP players who seek to stomp lesser skilled/noobs in a public match by using their superior equipment/suits to outmatch, outgun, and out strategize players who lack these things.
 - Cots
 
 
 HAHAHAHAHAH
 
 A coordinated......
  highly skilled
  
 They come out with infinate money, then use all the current "Best ****"and stomp. Lets not try sprinkle ******* on this please.
 
 I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
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        |  xxwhitedevilxx M
 Maphia Clan Corporation
 
 1787
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:00:00 -
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 Patrick57 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you Indeed. Too bad Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane aren't around any more to keep the fear of the scout alive, too. I've played against Lightning xVx (he went 32/2 that match), Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane in Chrome (I got so mad D:), and seeing Roner General on the other team generally makes me want to leave the match. I also played against Cubs back in Chrome when I was the biggest ******* noob ever. I still remember how mad that match made me. :( 
 The only scouts I clearly remember are those from Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz. What a great corp you were...
 
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        |  Benjamin Ciscko
 Fatal Absolution
 
 1806
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:02:00 -
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 It's like Proto Stomping in a commando.
 
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        |  Lightning xVx
 R 0 N 1 N
 
 395
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:03:00 -
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 I'll just leave this here... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Fujinraijin-tawaraya.jpg
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        |  xxwhitedevilxx M
 Maphia Clan Corporation
 
 1787
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:04:00 -
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 Benjamin Ciscko wrote:It's like Proto Stomping in a commando. 
 well, not really as bad as Commando...
 
 >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD" | 
      
      
        |  Beck Weathers
 Ghosts of Dawn
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 614
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:04:00 -
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 Patrick57 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you Indeed. Too bad Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane aren't around any more to keep the fear of the scout alive, too. I've played against Lightning xVx (he went 32/2 that match), Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane in Chrome (I got so mad D:), and seeing Roner General on the other team generally makes me want to leave the match. I also played against Cubs back in Chrome when I was the biggest ******* noob ever. I still remember how mad that match made me. :( 
 Played aginst him a few times, today when I fought him he went 30/0, he soloed 2-3 tanks with remotes and killed the rest with his shotgun, was beautiful to see till the blood covered my eyes and I had to respawn
 
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        |  Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
 TRA1LBLAZERS
 
 1055
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:10:00 -
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 gallente-yes
 Minmitar-no
 Gallente only because 3x enhanced plates+1x PD+ScR+ damage mod=dampened, fast assault
 
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        |  General12912
 Gallente Marine Corps
 
 74
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:10:00 -
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 Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you LOL right?
 
 proto scouts are simply fun in my opinion. i dont tanks them thoguh, i just load mine with 3 profile dampeners and an armor repairer (scout Gk.0). its fun being a super stealthy ninja.
 
 i look at Lightning xVx and company as exploiters though. they pack their scouts with regular armor plates. those really should even be able to go on a scout. scouts should depend on stealth and speed, not hp. i can understand ferroscale, but the cost (PG/CPU) on those makes them useless right. they seriously need to make each different armor type cost the same as a regular armor plate in PG/CPU (higher tiers still obviously mean higher cost though, just not higher than regular armor).
 
 if they fixed that, maybe people would actually use other armor types. i think people are only using the regular armor plates because they cost the least in PG/CPU
 
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        |  knight of 6
 SVER True Blood
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1553
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:43:00 -
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 most proto scouts have the ehp of a starter fit and a proto weapon. when we stomp it's 70% skill 30% suit.
 
 GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout, | 
      
      
        |  CRYPT3C W0LF
 Vherokior Combat Logistics
 Minmatar Republic
 
 403
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 03:53:00 -
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 Give me 100 million ISK and I'll happily provide an answer to you're question
  
 COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Slayer Scout, I feast on you're proto remains (Nom Nom Nom) | 
      
      
        |  Sinboto Simmons
 SVER True Blood
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 4771
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 04:30:00 -
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 knight of 6 wrote:most proto scouts have the ehp of a starter fit and a proto weapon. when we stomp it's 70% skill 30% suit. More like 50% luck 30% skill and 20% the suit.
 
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        |  Soldier Sorajord
 Subsonic Synthesis
 RISE of LEGION
 
 132
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 04:34:00 -
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 No. Some members of Nyain San do this but his suit isn't so strong, and he goes down pretty quickly. The only proto stomper I ever saw that was a scout and decimated us was a jump and shoot-the-CRG-3 shotgun who headshotted every medium suit. But Pu Taang from Nyain san I have played. Scouts are as vulnerable as, if not weaker than any medium Proto suit. Just have to keep up with the turning as they speed by.
 
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        |  Scout Registry
 Nos Nothi
 
 1377
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 04:45:00 -
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 "You can't proto-stomp in a Scout Suit."
 - Mr Musturd
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        |  Lightning xVx
 R 0 N 1 N
 
 395
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 05:08:00 -
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 General12912 wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you LOL right?  proto scouts are simply fun in my opinion. i dont tanks them thoguh, i just load mine with 3 profile dampeners and an armor repairer (scout Gk.0). its fun being a super stealthy ninja.  i look at Lightning xVx and company as exploiters though. they pack their scouts with regular armor plates. those really should even be able to go on a scout. scouts should depend on stealth and speed, not hp. i can understand ferroscale, but the cost (PG/CPU) on those makes them useless right. they seriously need to make each different armor type cost the same as a regular armor plate in PG/CPU (higher tiers still obviously mean higher cost though, just not higher than regular armor).  if they fixed that, maybe people would actually use other armor types. i think people are only using the regular armor plates because they cost the least in PG/CPU 
 
 Wow, I never knew RONIN did something like that! You learn something new everyday.
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        |  DEZKA DIABLO
 0uter.Heaven
 
 331
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 05:21:00 -
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 Most scouts that are amazing, like jolly an musturd use adv suits and basic or adv weapons, lol when 1.8 hits our adv suits will be our basic an our proto now will be our 1.8 adv suits so when you get spanked by a scout in 1.8 chances are its cuz they trained in the worst suits imaginable for a year, I'm talking nova knives, cr, comp and basic shield = 234 shield, no grenade, compact hive an biotic mods with 72- 89 armor.
 
 So if ur getting killed by that either he's really good or your really bad
 
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        |  DJINN Marauder
 Ancient Exiles.
 Renegade Alliance
 
 4364
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 05:28:00 -
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 I don't normally proto stomp as much anymore. Sometimes I bring out for fun. I now a days use my adv scout with std CR setup.
 
 Regardless the answer is yes. Proto stomping is by definition a player using proto and doing better than you... So yes :D
 
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        |  Meeko Fent
 Kirkinen Risk Control
 Caldari State
 
 1886
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 06:26:00 -
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 Proto-Stomping would mean Completely crushing, and redlining a team via the spam of proto gear.
 
 It's POSSIBLE. But its probably NEVER going to happen, ever.
 
 Scouts are just too squishy to beat the Gear Common players pull (Standard, militia, the rare Advanced), whilst protosalts and logis have such a huge lead in health and DPS, that they always smush new players, whereas scouts don't have that advantage.
 
 Because you Wanted to be Something your Not. | 
      
      
        |  Joel II X
 Dah Gods O Bacon
 
 1415
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 07:27:00 -
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 DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Most scouts that are amazing, like jolly an musturd use adv suits and basic or adv weapons, lol when 1.8 hits our adv suits will be our basic an our proto now will be our 1.8 adv suits so when you get spanked by a scout in 1.8 chances are its cuz they trained in the worst suits imaginable for a year, I'm talking nova knives, cr, comp and basic shield = 234 shield, no grenade, compact hive an biotic mods with 72- 89 armor.
 So if ur getting killed by that either he's really good or your really bad
 Haha, yeah!
 
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        |  Matticus Monk
 Ordus Trismegistus
 
 1358
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 07:38:00 -
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 Sure, why wouldn't scouts be able to protostomp? I've seen squads of scouts completely stomp the $hit out of many, MANY, a game where the scouts were only using ADV or STD gear.
 
 Double posting like a Kaiser. (Homage to Ghost Kaiser's impeccable forum etiquette) | 
      
      
        |  Chuckles Brown
 
 207
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 09:49:00 -
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 Sure is.
 A proto Scout will have more HP than most Starter fits and STD medium frames.
 
 Marauder is a prime example of this. He tanks out his Scout Gk.0 like a medium frame. It works, because he's still dampened, has more speed than medium frames, and the smaller hitbox.
 
 mr mustard on the other hand is the other way around. He dumps his CPU/PG into speed. Running at 10+m/s is pretty hard for most players to kill in this game.
 
 
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        |  Orenji Jiji
 
 358
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 10:23:00 -
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 You can, but why would you?
 
 Dragonfly Scout + CR + Toxin SMG + RE and 35/8 in a domination with objective in a building.
 
 Deaths:
 
 3 - one ck0 with kalaakiota, who I got twice (his only deaths in that match)
 2 - tanks from other end of the corridor (probably not even shooting at me at all, LOL scouting)
 3 - not being able to kill a group of 4+ guys fast enough, including at least one heavy.
 
 RE's detonated post-mortem: 0
 Cost: around 90k ISK
 Payout: 390k ISK.
 
 Fun: priceless.
 
 SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, Scout beast-mode. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die. | 
      
      
        |  ads alt
 DROID EXILES
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 10:24:00 -
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 Orenji Jiji wrote:You can, but why would you?
 Dragonfly Scout + CR + Toxin SMG + RE and 35/8 in a domination with objective in a building.
 
 Deaths:
 
 3 - one ck0 with kalaakiota, who I got twice (his only deaths in that match)
 2 - tanks from other end of the corridor (probably not even shooting at me at all, LOL scouting)
 3 - not being able to kill a group of 4+ guys fast enough, including at least one heavy.
 
 RE's detonated post-mortem: 0
 Cost: around 90k ISK
 Payout: 390k ISK.
 
 Fun: priceless.
 How many remote kills did you get
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        |  Repe Susi
 Rautaleijona
 Top Men.
 
 1072
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 10:27:00 -
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 Orenji Jiji wrote:You can, but why would you?
 Dragonfly Scout + CR + Toxin SMG + RE and 35/8 in a domination with objective in a building.
 
 Fun: priceless.
 
 It's damn weird that the best and most fun fit I have is exactly the same. I do worse with upper-tier suits.
 
 
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        |  Orenji Jiji
 
 358
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 10:29:00 -
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 ads alt wrote:Orenji Jiji wrote:You can, but why would you?
 Dragonfly Scout + CR + Toxin SMG + RE and 35/8 in a domination with objective in a building.
 
 Deaths:
 
 3 - one ck0 with kalaakiota, who I got twice (his only deaths in that match)
 2 - tanks from other end of the corridor (probably not even shooting at me at all, LOL scouting)
 3 - not being able to kill a group of 4+ guys fast enough, including at least one heavy.
 
 RE's detonated post-mortem: 0
 Cost: around 90k ISK
 Payout: 390k ISK.
 
 Fun: priceless.
 How many remote kills did you get 
 I'd say 5-7. One of them was the ck0 guy, because he camped long enough to let me plant him. Most of the blood was shed with CR+Toxin swap. People really rely to much on their passive scanning.
 
 
 Repe Susi wrote:Orenji Jiji wrote:You can, but why would you?
 Dragonfly Scout + CR + Toxin SMG + RE and 35/8 in a domination with objective in a building.
 
 Fun: priceless.
 It's damn weird that the best and most fun fit I have is exactly the same. I do worse with upper-tier suits. Give us 1.8 and 2 hi-slots and better scan range and all that **** and yeah. Couldn't care less about the cloak. 
 I like ADV suits, but I don't feel the need most of the time. Also DF looks awesome. :P
 
 SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, Scout beast-mode. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die. | 
      
      
        |  Yan Darn
 Forsaken Immortals
 Top Men.
 
 300
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 11:05:00 -
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 IMHO protostomping involves (depending on map) sitting in one place, tethered to a logi or two, defending a single objective - attacking other objectives with vehicle support.
 
 My experience of owning in pubs with the likes of RON1N does not I involve such nonsense...
 
 The Ghost of Bravo | 
      
      
        |  Ironyimation Inception
 R 0 N 1 N
 
 125
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 13:08:00 -
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 When did I become able to fit armor plates on my scouts I thought I had Kin Kats there.. I guess you can really tell I'm really armor tanking when I have 80 armor.
 
 Also yes Lightning is very scary to play against he can be everywhere in the blink of an eye.
 
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        |  Aszazel
 R 0 N 1 N
 
 87
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 13:33:00 -
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 Scouts cannot proto stomp; scouts can do what all effective corps do though. Run in a squad and stick together. At that, they can be wildly successful. Scouts die if anything named duvolle looks at them but obliviously their low profile and speed makes up for some of it.
 
 I tend to NOT like running in an organized group, because when I play solo I am a big fish in a small pond, do alright and usually get in the top 3 of the leader board and collect my iskies. When I run with Lighting xVx he always doubles my war points and I am left collect half of what I usually could get (all while giving him 5% anyways, blah). Plus, I usually die all the same; if not more cause he kills all the easy targets and leaves me to deal with everyone else if I want to get a kill at all.
 
 I don't consider running proto alone or in groups to be all that proto stomping because we have maybe 300 - 400 combined armor and shield if you give up your options to stack plates or extenders. Most starter fits have that.
 
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        |  Nothing Certain
 Villore Sec Ops
 Gallente Federation
 
 285
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 15:59:00 -
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 LT SHANKS wrote:This is an honest question; can they? If a player had enough funds to run a prototype/complex setup in every match while going positive, would that be considered proto stomping?
 
 
 Of course they can, they are merely trading an HP advantage for a speed/stealth advantage, but they still have a huge advantage over there non-proto counterparts.
 
 Because, that's why. | 
      
      
        |  Awry Barux
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 1359
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 16:14:00 -
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 Nothing Certain wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:This is an honest question; can they? If a player had enough funds to run a prototype/complex setup in every match while going positive, would that be considered proto stomping?
 
 Of course they can, they are merely trading an HP advantage for a speed/stealth advantage, but they still have a huge advantage over there non-proto counterparts. 
 I would argue that that isn't "stomping" though. More like proto-shanking. Getting stomped is coming up against a bricked proto slayer, dropping them to half health, then dying because of their gear.
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        |  Ghost Kaisar
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 3291
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.04 16:23:00 -
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 General12912 wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you LOL right?  proto scouts are simply fun in my opinion. i dont tanks them thoguh, i just load mine with 3 profile dampeners and an armor repairer (scout Gk.0). its fun being a super stealthy ninja.  i look at Lightning xVx and company as exploiters though. they pack their scouts with regular armor plates. those really should even be able to go on a scout. scouts should depend on stealth and speed, not hp. i can understand ferroscale, but the cost (PG/CPU) on those makes them useless right. they seriously need to make each different armor type cost the same as a regular armor plate in PG/CPU (higher tiers still obviously mean higher cost though, just not higher than regular armor).  if they fixed that, maybe people would actually use other armor types. i think people are only using the regular armor plates because they cost the least in PG/CPU 
 There are flavors of every type of dropsuit.
 
 Just as you have min assaults who shield and speed tank, you also have min assaults who armor and damage tank.
 
 
 Scouts are the same way.
 
 I know Lightning runs about 270 shields and a basic plate for armor (With an ACR), and I know that I generally run a fully shielded Min Scout with Speed and Stamina.
 
 They are built for different reasons. Mine has more emphasis on speed and overall mobility, while his sacrifeces both to gain a better armor buffer for combat.
 
 In short, it's built for battle. Which makes sense. Cause he kills like 30+ People a round.
 
 I could do that with my above suit, but I would end up dying more.
 
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        |  Lightning xVx
 R 0 N 1 N
 
 396
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.05 02:33:00 -
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 Ghost Kaisar wrote:General12912 wrote:There are flavors of every type of dropsuit.Beck Weathers wrote:I gues you have never player against Lightning xVx and crew yet have you LOL right?  proto scouts are simply fun in my opinion. i dont tanks them thoguh, i just load mine with 3 profile dampeners and an armor repairer (scout Gk.0). its fun being a super stealthy ninja.  i look at Lightning xVx and company as exploiters though. they pack their scouts with regular armor plates. those really should even be able to go on a scout. scouts should depend on stealth and speed, not hp. i can understand ferroscale, but the cost (PG/CPU) on those makes them useless right. they seriously need to make each different armor type cost the same as a regular armor plate in PG/CPU (higher tiers still obviously mean higher cost though, just not higher than regular armor).  if they fixed that, maybe people would actually use other armor types. i think people are only using the regular armor plates because they cost the least in PG/CPU Just as you have min assaults who shield and speed tank, you also have min assaults who armor and damage tank.  Scouts are the same way.  I know Lightning runs about 270 shields and a basic plate for armor (With an ACR), and I know that I generally run a fully shielded Min Scout with Speed and Stamina.  They are built for different reasons. Mine has more emphasis on speed and overall mobility, while his sacrifeces both to gain a better armor buffer for combat.  In short, it's built for battle. Which makes sense. Cause he kills like 30+ People a round.  I could do that with my above suit, but I would end up dying more. 
 I still primarily run a Speed tanking suit, the match we were fighting in I had 1 armor plate because one or two guys were using the Kali Rail Rifles on me, so what better way to kill them then with their own weapon?
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        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 3331
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.05 02:38:00 -
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 Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Honestly, there's no need to right now because the higher tiers of scouts aren't exactly huge upgrades. 
 Technically the Minmatar scout has one of the biggest potential HP increases from Adv to Proto.
 But since it's a piece of crap in the first place, we wouldn't really notice.
 
 No. | 
      
      
        |  safura trotsky
 Kill Mode Activated
 Galactic Skyfleet Empire
 
 29
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.05 02:39:00 -
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 HELL...YES
 just look at Dnb something from ns, all he runs is proto gallente scout and he always goes like 27-1....f*cking crazy
 
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        |  BLUNT SMKR
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 
 37
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.05 08:44:00 -
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 Of course scouts can proto stomp i've seen many scouts get like 35+ kills easy not even being in proto
 think i went 41-6 the other day in a adv setup. Cant wait to get proto scout if we get a respec
 
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        |  DozersMouse XIII
 Ultramarine Corp
 
 135
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.05 09:21:00 -
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 gallente scout tonight I ran 608 armor and one complex rep
 
 one complex damage mod, republic boundless CR and syndicate SMG
 
 C7 flux and A45 scanner
 
 this build was for PC and I haven't tanked my scout since the beginning of uprising
 
 its great for PC because your tacnet is virtually useless as well as the speed
  
 and yes you can proto stomp in a scout suit
  
 
 
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        |  STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.05 09:22:00 -
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 My two best games this past week have been a 40/1 and a 28/1. Although I was running an adv gal scout suit with either a SG or ACR.... advance stomping??
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        |  HYENAKILLER X
 Kang Lo Directorate
 Gallente Federation
 
 651
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.05 09:45:00 -
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 Stomps are about the player, not the suit.
 
 Imagine the best scanner on your team is the active, and you have an entire squad of highly skilled proto scouts. You never see it coming.
 
 I personally would go gal proto assault stealth build.
 
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        |  Omareth Nasadra
 The New Age Outlaws
 WINMATAR.
 
 319
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.05 10:06:00 -
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 i've run dragonfly only for the last 3 month, no problem finishing top 3 in every battle, fit costing me 12k and i usually make over 300k every fight, die a lot cuz i leeroy most of the time, wich is fun, tried my proto scout for the first time last week, end with a 17-0 and didn't make the top 5, i'm too carefull when i run proto, result are fine, but the fun factor not the same, back to my leeroy ways, bring as many as i can with my cheap dragonfly yarrr
  
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