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Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1454	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:33:00 - [1] - Quote Fact 1: Tac AR was nerfed with higher hipfire spread back in the day. Fact 2 (As we know it today): Gal assault bonus in 1.8 is -> Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. If you look at the above facts, do you think the Gallente Assault will be tailored for using the Tac AR in 1.8? Assaulting is about covering ranges from CQC to medium/long (depending on race). And being versatile with your weapon. Drop it like its hat.
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 378	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:36:00 - [2] - Quote dont forget they have mentioned rifle stats are changing so it wouldn't supriose me if they're slightly 'nerfed' to encourage use on their associated racial suit. if not i'm more interested in the KRIN. the thing already has amazing accuracy. same damage as duvolle but throw in the extra reduction to kick and spread and that thing is gonan be amazing!! Rolling with the punches
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 915	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:38:00 - [3] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Fact 1: Tac AR was nerfed with higher hipfire spread back in the day. Fact 2 (As we know it today): Gal assault bonus in 1.8 is -> Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. If you look at the above facts, do you think the Gallente Assault will be tailored for using the Tac AR in 1.8? Assaulting is about covering ranges from CQC to medium/long (depending on race). And being versatile with your weapon. While it may improve the TAC the TAC will still only have 18 bullets in the magazine. It will still have a low RoF. I dont really see the TAC being much more than it had been for a while now - a niche weapon. Why use the TAC when you can spec into the realm of Scrambler rifles? Same dmg per bullet, tons more ammo per magazine, better hip fire, better RoF and a charge mechanic to boot! Even on a non Amarr suit the scrambler is better, couple the scrambler with an Amarr suit and it is just godly. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
ALT2 acc 203	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:39:00 - [4] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: dont forget they have mentioned rifle stats are changing so it wouldn't supriose me if they're slightly 'nerfed' to encourage use on their associated racial suit. if not i'm more interested in the KRIN. the thing already has amazing accuracy. same damage as duvolle but throw in the extra reduction to kick and spread and that thing is gonan be amazing!! Whats its advantage, it has overheating... Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1454	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:40:00 - [5] - Quote Anybody know how much the hipfire dispersion was increased when Tac AR was nerfed? Drop it like its hat.
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 140	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:45:00 - [6] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: dont forget they have mentioned rifle stats are changing so it wouldn't supriose me if they're slightly 'nerfed' to encourage use on their associated racial suit. if not i'm more interested in the KRIN. the thing already has amazing accuracy. same damage as duvolle but throw in the extra reduction to kick and spread and that thing is gonan be amazing!! Whats its advantage, it has overheating... Having lvl 5 operations and lvl 3 proficiency in it, You would do from a standard SCR about 80 hp a hit meaning you are doing some damage to the guy regardless of shield and armor. And on a prototype ASCR about 41-42 per shot. The other advantage it has is the range not as much as the rail but somewhat there. Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2018	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:47:00 - [7] - Quote i've always wondered what exactly does weapon dispersion do. I have an idea but would like to get confirmation.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1454	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:48:00 - [8] - Quote calisk galern wrote: i've always wondered what exactly does weapon dispersion do. I have an idea but would like to get confirmation. Random spread in a circle around center of your crosshair? Drop it like its hat.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1201	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:51:00 - [9] - Quote calisk galern wrote: i've always wondered what exactly does weapon dispersion do. I have an idea but would like to get confirmation. see those crosshairs when you arnt aiming down the sights? thats dispersion, the bullet could end up anywhere between those crosshairs, although more oftin then not it will gravitate closer to the center then the outside. the math behind it is basically as follows when shooting the bullet starts at teh zero point, the exact center, but the game puts it though a formula to make it less pinpoint accurate. the crosshairs represent the maximum the bullet can shoot off target (exact center of the crosshairs)
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution 816	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:53:00 - [10] - Quote IIRC the main nerfs to tac AR were to fire rate and clip size. It has only 56% of the fire rate and DPS and a mere 40% of the damage-per-clip of the ScR, its direct equivalent. So no, I don't think we'll be seeing many tac AR-wielding Gal assaults.

Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1869	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:53:00 - [11] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: dont forget they have mentioned rifle stats are changing so it wouldn't supriose me if they're slightly 'nerfed' to encourage use on their associated racial suit. if not i'm more interested in the KRIN. the thing already has amazing accuracy. same damage as duvolle but throw in the extra reduction to kick and spread and that thing is gonan be amazing!! Whats its advantage, it has overheating... Having lvl 5 operations and lvl 3 proficiency in it, You would do from a standard SCR about 80 hp a hit meaning you are doing some damage to the guy regardless of shield and armor. And on a prototype ASCR about 41-42 per shot. The other advantage it has is the range not as much as the rail but somewhat there. Krin's AR seems to jam on the 63rd bullet. I don't have prof 3 AR, so I couldn't tell you if it's only under continuous fire, though. Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 379	Posted - 2014.03.03 14:46:00 - [12] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: dont forget they have mentioned rifle stats are changing so it wouldn't supriose me if they're slightly 'nerfed' to encourage use on their associated racial suit. if not i'm more interested in the KRIN. the thing already has amazing accuracy. same damage as duvolle but throw in the extra reduction to kick and spread and that thing is gonan be amazing!! Whats its advantage, it has overheating... doesnt over heat as quick as something like a scrambler rifle and has a base accuracy of around 60% as it is. with proto assault and AR5 and SS5 the KRIN and even duvolle will actually be pretty formidable now and as has been mentioned it will also increase the range of the AR's in a way (more bullets will hit from a distance) and as i mentioned. the devs have said rifles are changing so RR/ScR ect may not be as op as they are currently. Rolling with the punches
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1202	Posted - 2014.03.03 14:52:00 - [13] - Quote Old thread is old "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2378	Posted - 2014.03.03 15:30:00 - [14] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Fact 1: Tac AR was nerfed with higher hipfire spread back in the day. Fact 2 (As we know it today): Gal assault bonus in 1.8 is -> Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. If you look at the above facts, do you think the Gallente Assault will be tailored for using the Tac AR in 1.8? Assaulting is about covering ranges from CQC to medium/long (depending on race). And being versatile with your weapon. Hi there o/, Just going to correct a few things, so some of these good forum folk don't get the wrong idea. Spectral Clone wrote: Assaulting is about covering ranges from CQC to medium/long (depending on race). And being versatile with your weapon. This definition is wrong Spectral Clone wrote: Fact 1: Tac AR was nerfed with higher hipfire spread back in the day. OP also forgot to mention that RoF was heavily nerfed. Furthermore, it was the RoF that truly made the old TAR something to be feared. Gallente is about CQC and RoF is a huge factor. Spectral Clone wrote: Fact 2 (As we know it today): Gal assault bonus in 1.8 is -> Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level You're correct (As we know it today) Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1457	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:40:00 - [15] - Quote ReGnYuM, you play minmatar assault with AR right? Thats a CQC setup. Would you consider Amarr Assault with Scrambler being CQC too? I wouldn't. Noone knows what CCP actually means by assaulting, they probably dont know themselves. Otherwise we wouldn't be a basic suit with skill bonuses. Drop it like its hat.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1457	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:46:00 - [16] - Quote Oh, also GG for replying to my post! Its nice having you here. :) Drop it like its hat.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 432	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:50:00 - [17] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Fact 1: Tac AR was nerfed with higher hipfire spread back in the day. Fact 2 (As we know it today): Gal assault bonus in 1.8 is -> Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. If you look at the above facts, do you think the Gallente Assault will be tailored for using the Tac AR in 1.8? Assaulting is about covering ranges from CQC to medium/long (depending on race). And being versatile with your weapon. I'm pretty sure it was the **** fire rate on top the small clip size that drove people away from the tac AR. 32db Mad Bomber.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1458	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:55:00 - [18] - Quote Sure, I might have remembered the nerf incorrectly. Drop it like its hat.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2120	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:58:00 - [19] - Quote Lol so they'll be a wanna be Amarr Assault even though they're suits will be better stat and slot wise. "But we have been blessed"
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1458	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:02:00 - [20] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Lol so they'll be a wanna be Amarr Assault even though they're suits will be better stat and slot wise. Im just trying to understand CCPs 'logic' regarding assault suit bonuses here... There is none Drop it like its hat.

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2706	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:03:00 - [21] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Old thread is old How old could a thread about a proposed 1.8 bonus be? Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1404	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:08:00 - [22] - Quote The assault bonus on the Gallente will only be for the AR if nothing's changed. Shotgun will no longer function as it is supposed to (well, it'll turn the normal one to a useful breach) and the Plasma Cannon doesn't get affected at all.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10314	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:38:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: The assault bonus on the Gallente will only be for the AR if nothing's changed. Shotgun will no longer function as it is supposed to (well, it'll turn the normal one to a useful breach) and the Plasma Cannon doesn't get affected at all. The shotgun won't really be affected. The shots only land in the centre of the reticule anyway. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.


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