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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:00:00 -
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NERF SHIELDS!!!!!1!1111!!!!!!!! IF SOMEONE CAN DUAL TANK, NERF THE INFERIOR HP SOURCE!!!!!111!!!!!11!!!!!!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Damage mods still need to have their slot swapped to low damage+tank is insanity, swap the damage mods and bring out more highslot mods already. Then every utility module in the low slot should move to high slot. Can't have literally everything. currently, armor tanking suits have "literally everything". High damage, much more EHP, better repairing capabilities (no delay, large amounts of repair especially on gallente suits in 1.8, repair tools, and armor hives all make armor repair equal if not superior to shield repair). The only thing armor tankers suffer from is slightly lower movement speed, which is easily remedied with 1 kin cat replacing an armor plate
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.03 04:21:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Damage mods still need to have their slot swapped to low damage+tank is insanity, swap the damage mods and bring out more highslot mods already. Then every utility module in the low slot should move to high slot. Can't have literally everything. currently, armor tanking suits have "literally everything". High damage, much more EHP, better repairing capabilities (no delay, large amounts of repair especially on gallente suits in 1.8, repair tools, and armor hives all make armor repair equal if not superior to shield repair). The only thing armor tankers suffer from is slightly lower movement speed, which is easily remedied with 1 kin cat replacing an armor plate High damage? Nerfed Much more eHP? Only with logistics. Assaults tend to have near matching eHP Better repair? Oh yeah, my 6.25hp/s is totally scary, but that 40hp/s Caldari Assaults are going to have is nothing! Repiar tools require TEAM WORK, repair hives make you stationary, can be destroyed and in general unreliable. Plates have DOUBLE the movement penalty on strafe speed. So that 5% reduction to speed? Double that for strafe speed. No kin cat can remedy that. You have personally said that you have to run 2 complex reppers on an armor suit. So you use gallente assault, n'est-ce pas? 2x complex reppers=12.5 hp/s+2 hp/s inherent=14.5 hps/s. Lets look at minmitar assault. 4x extenders damage mod and 1x cpu and 1x kin cat. You have a rep rate on shields of 25/s i believe. you also have a 15s delay.
15s delay=15x1.28=19.2 seconds depleted delay (and, lets face it, your shield is going to be depleted in at least 50% of 1v1's). so, you have a total shield HP of 172+66(1.1x4)=462 hp
How long does it take to recover all 462 HP? Well, lets do some math. automatic 19.2 seconds of delay + 462/25=38 seconds
Now lets look at what the gallente assault suit that we theory crafted earlier can do in 38 seconds- 38*12.5 hp/s=471 HP recovered. This is MORE than what was recovered on the shield suit.
Ok whatever. At least the min assault has more HP right? wrong.
1x enhanced+1x complex plate= (115+135)*1.1+210=485 armor HP (this is disclosing any points into armor or shield skills)
Plus, if you have a nice logi, they can heal you gallente assault, while all the minmitar assault can do is sit in a corner and hope no one has a scanner.
Now lets look at damage and speed. The gallente assault does 25% more damage, so it only makes sense that the minmitar suit should move 25% faster, right? At max skills, the min assault moves at 8.64 sprint speed At max skills, the gallente assault moves at 6.76 sprint speed
This is only a 22% difference in speeds
Now i pose you this question-what is more valuable- speed or damage?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.03 04:30:00 -
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whoever thinks my logic is wrong on the above post, please enlighten me
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.03 04:41:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: "A bit", in 1.8 that's going to be as short as the reload time of an assault rifle.
only for the cal scout-everything has has **** poor shield regen (cal sentinel excluded-that thing is an outlier)
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