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Berserker007
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:59:00 -
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here is the problem with trying to make it better/compete with other weapons in a "category". When we first got dust, all it had was the Gallente AR's and its variations. Though, slowly (VERY slowly), we have received new AR's, with their own niche (though some may cross over to much in a sense).
This then brings us back to the AR variations : Breach, Burst, Tac. Each in their own right in their hayday had a certain role. Now, that role is less b/c of the other racial rifles, which makes sense. if you look at the Gallente AR, as their base weapon, which is it; the variation modes are their attempts to copy the abilities of the other racial variant weapons.
Burst = Mini Tac = ScR Creo = RR
By speccing into the Gallente AR branch of weapons, it gives you a tasting of each racial weapon in this category, but they don't compete to the racial true variants ... why should they?
If you have these copy attempt weapons being on a closer/equal ground with the racial specific weapons, what is the point to spec into the racial weapons when you get them all in one weapon choice?? By only having to use 620k SP, you get a variation of weapons to use for different situation, but will be beat out by the racial specific weapon in that situation though, which makes sense. If you want the "dominating" feeling, you should spec into the racial weapon.
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Berserker007
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:07:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Berserker007 wrote:here is the problem with trying to make it better/compete with other weapons in a "category". When we first got dust, all it had was the Gallente AR's and its variations. Though, slowly (VERY slowly), we have received new AR's, with their own niche (though some may cross over to much in a sense).
This then brings us back to the AR variations : Breach, Burst, Tac. Each in their own right in their hayday had a certain role. Now, that role is less b/c of the other racial rifles, which makes sense. if you look at the Gallente AR, as their base weapon, which is it; the variation modes are their attempts to copy the abilities of the other racial variant weapons.
Burst = Mini Tac = ScR Creo = RR
By speccing into the Gallente AR branch of weapons, it gives you a tasting of each racial weapon in this category, but they don't compete to the racial true variants ... why should they?
If you have these copy attempt weapons being on a closer/equal ground with the racial specific weapons, what is the point to spec into the racial weapons when you get them all in one weapon choice?? By only having to use 620k SP, you get a variation of weapons to use for different situation, but will be beat out by the racial specific weapon in that situation though, which makes sense. If you want the "dominating" feeling, you should spec into the racial weapon.
The proto type variants of ARs (breach, burst, Tac) are awrful. If we had militia rail rifles, they would preform better than the proto breach. If we had militia SCR, Proto Tac would preform worse than it. Why should I pay 77k isk for a Tac AR when i can put 12k sp into SCR and get a better weapon for 1/77th the cost.
maybe that's the point ... as racial specific weapon will outperform the copy weapons, even at a basic- proto level . That could be the cost of getting 4 variants at proto for 620k; when if you choose a racial specific, you only get 1 for the 620k
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Berserker007
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:19:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Berserker007 wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Berserker007 wrote:here is the problem with trying to make it better/compete with other weapons in a "category". When we first got dust, all it had was the Gallente AR's and its variations. Though, slowly (VERY slowly), we have received new AR's, with their own niche (though some may cross over to much in a sense).
This then brings us back to the AR variations : Breach, Burst, Tac. Each in their own right in their hayday had a certain role. Now, that role is less b/c of the other racial rifles, which makes sense. if you look at the Gallente AR, as their base weapon, which is it; the variation modes are their attempts to copy the abilities of the other racial variant weapons.
Burst = Mini Tac = ScR Creo = RR
By speccing into the Gallente AR branch of weapons, it gives you a tasting of each racial weapon in this category, but they don't compete to the racial true variants ... why should they?
If you have these copy attempt weapons being on a closer/equal ground with the racial specific weapons, what is the point to spec into the racial weapons when you get them all in one weapon choice?? By only having to use 620k SP, you get a variation of weapons to use for different situation, but will be beat out by the racial specific weapon in that situation though, which makes sense. If you want the "dominating" feeling, you should spec into the racial weapon.
The proto type variants of ARs (breach, burst, Tac) are awrful. If we had militia rail rifles, they would preform better than the proto breach. If we had militia SCR, Proto Tac would preform worse than it. Why should I pay 77k isk for a Tac AR when i can put 12k sp into SCR and get a better weapon for 1/77th the cost. maybe that's the point ... as racial specific weapon will outperform the copy weapons, even at a basic- proto level . That could be the cost of getting 4 variants at proto for 620k; when if you choose a racial specific, you only get 1 for the 620k That's just stupid... Then what is the point of having these piece of sh*t weapons in the game? anyway 4 variants take like 48k sp if you spec into variants and they are hella lot cheaper. 48k sp vs 620k sp 1500 isk vs 77,000 isk. Edit: =no balance even the "CQC" king AR is outperformed in its niche by RR, CR, ScR.
im not sure what they were thinking, I can only guess at what they were thinking, and why . Only a dev can give you a definite answer as to how the "system works"
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