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Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 214	Posted - 2014.03.02 15:49:00 - [1] - Quote Ever since the tank update came out people cry about how OP they are which they are not. If you get one other person to work with you you can kill any tank. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy tanks. If you can get 1 other person or even your whole squad to work together you will pose a serious threat to any tanker. ( Ex. 2 Forge, 4 AV Grenade Users ) Or any combination of team work. Even if the tank has hardeners on you can still kill it... its not invincible. Or even if you have a tanker working with you teamwork is the second best way to kill tanks. ( Other than people who use the Gunnlogi, Sica, Dual dmg modifier fit on a rail gun pew pew :( ) Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 214	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:26:00 - [2] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Samuel Zelik wrote: The right conclusion (to an extent), but the wrong reason. Blasters, dual reps, dual harda are op There not invincible though. Infantry are infantry & Tanks are Tanks.... superior to infantry obviously. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 214	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:29:00 - [3] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Your MLT costs less than my proto swarms fitting and you can - 1 hit kill me - Destroy me with machine gun fire - run over me - Redline Rail kill me If you consider this balance, then I shall consider you stupid! Tanks actually should be able to do everything you listed other than the reline thing. if you stand in front of an enemy tank and get yourself killed you sir are stupid and need to play something else Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 214	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:30:00 - [4] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Dear OP. **** you. :) Love you to. :D Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 214	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:31:00 - [5] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Slow tanks down and or buff prox mines. Problem solved. I've thought about that before. but they should do both in the end.. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 214	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:33:00 - [6] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: Samuel Zelik wrote: The right conclusion (to an extent), but the wrong reason. Blasters, dual reps, dual harda are op There not invincible though. Infantry are infantry & Tanks are Tanks.... superior to infantry obviously. Blaster tanks are overpowered Dual reps allow you to never die and make tank fights boring Thats what teamwork is for lmao. Work together to kill it. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 214	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:35:00 - [7] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Ever since the tank update came out people cry about how OP they are which they are not. If you get one other person to work with you you can kill any tank. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy tanks. If you can get 1 other person or even your whole squad to work together you will pose a serious threat to any tanker. ( Ex. 2 Forge, 4 AV Grenade Users ) Or any combination of team work. Even if the tank has hardeners on you can still kill it... its not invincible. Or even if you have a tanker working with you teamwork is the second best way to kill tanks. ( Other than people who use the Gunnlogi, Sica, Dual dmg modifier fit on a rail gun pew pew :( ) Which is therefore not balanced. 1 tank + 1 driver,maybe 100k investment 2 forge 4 av = 300-500k ISK So it takes x2-x6 more people to do and alot more isk. Explain? Your speaking ISK wise im talking about killing the tank not how much you need to "Invest" Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:37:00 - [8] - Quote AREYOUTHAT STUPID wrote: Way to try and high jack another guys informative thread by naming it the same thing....big bad forum trolls are sad. The original thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144842&find=unread Its not my intent to jack someone else's thread. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:41:00 - [9] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: I cant believe people think blasters are fine I cant use teamwork if only I pull out a forge Peoplecry about blasters because they cry about loseing there proto suit to it. 3 Packed av's will send a tank running. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:45:00 - [10] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Your MLT costs less than my proto swarms fitting and you can - 1 hit kill me - Destroy me with machine gun fire - run over me - Redline Rail kill me If you consider this balance, then I shall consider you stupid! Tanks actually should be able to do everything you listed other than the reline thing. if you stand in front of an enemy tank and get yourself killed you sir are stupid and need to play something else Do me a video soloing 3 tanks in an ambush with a forge... Just that Its not hard. & thats not my point of the thread. 2 people with forges can kill 10 tanks if anything... they just have to play it smart. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"

Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:47:00 - [11] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Your MLT costs less than my proto swarms fitting and you can - 1 hit kill me - Destroy me with machine gun fire - run over me - Redline Rail kill me If you consider this balance, then I shall consider you stupid! Tanks actually should be able to do everything you listed other than the reline thing. if you stand in front of an enemy tank and get yourself killed you sir are stupid and need to play something else Do me a video soloing 3 tanks in an ambush with a forge... Just that Forges need charge time buff Madrugar speed nerf by 3m/s or more, nerf nitros and blasters Gunlogi speed nerf by 1m/s Give assault dropships 200 more hp based on tanmaybe 10% resistance Speed nerf I can agree with its a bit ridiculos. & the dropship thing its different but yea they deserve more hp... Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:48:00 - [12] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: DEA Scott Richardson wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Ever since the tank update came out people cry about how OP they are which they are not. If you get one other person to work with you you can kill any tank. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy tanks. If you can get 1 other person or even your whole squad to work together you will pose a serious threat to any tanker. ( Ex. 2 Forge, 4 AV Grenade Users ) Or any combination of team work. Even if the tank has hardeners on you can still kill it... its not invincible. Or even if you have a tanker working with you teamwork is the second best way to kill tanks. ( Other than people who use the Gunnlogi, Sica, Dual dmg modifier fit on a rail gun pew pew :( ) I agree if people cant use teamwork to kill a tank whats the point of this game. People stand in front of a tank and die & they start crying on the forums. lol Nobody does that but the forgers they instakill Stupid Forger's get instakilled. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 219	Posted - 2014.03.03 01:32:00 - [13] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Your MLT costs less than my proto swarms fitting and you can - 1 hit kill me - Destroy me with machine gun fire - run over me - Redline Rail kill me If you consider this balance, then I shall consider you stupid! Tanks actually should be able to do everything you listed other than the reline thing. if you stand in front of an enemy tank and get yourself killed you sir are stupid and need to play something else Do me a video soloing 3 tanks in an ambush with a forge... Just that Its not hard. & thats not my point of the thread. 2 people with forges can kill 10 tanks if anything... they just have to play it smart. 1 tank can destroy 10 infantry guys never seen 2 forges destroy 10 tanks please... show some video evidence so I can shut up! I don't need to show you anything lol its either adapt or die... Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 221	Posted - 2014.03.03 02:04:00 - [14] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Another tank driver with math deficiencies sigh Haven't we been through this argument enough times yet? Your thesis statement is: tanks are not OP is because they can be killed by 2-6 people working in perfect tandem using FGs and Av grenades. So let us take the midpoint and say 4 people to kill 1 tanks. SO with 1 tank on the field that leave 4 guys on the tank and 15 v 12 on the ground, 2 tanks and now we have 8 guys fighting tanks and leaving 14 v 8, 3 tanks = 13 v 4, 4 tanks and 12 v 0.... and boy does it get scary from there. Your reasoning for tanks being balanced does no hold up to any sort of logic when you admit that tanks take multiple people to destroy. Tanks are not balanced by any means, not price wise, not power wise vs infantry AV. This is a fact, you tankers are a little better off arguing that tanks are imbalanced but they should be unbalanced, but even there you typically fail. I didn't say "Perfect Tandem" & I said many other combinations can be used aswell it was just an example. Grab a friend and kill a tank god damn it complaining dosn't help you big crybaby lol Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 221	Posted - 2014.03.03 02:06:00 - [15] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Cool logic, love it. If it takes a full squad to take out a militia tank - that's according to OP. The question is .... wait for it... How many squads does it take to take out a squad of tanks? Go! But yea def, tanks are not OP if you can deploy twice as many players on your team than what the red team has. Believe it or not its not hard to take out a squad of tanks if you work with your squad. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 221	Posted - 2014.03.03 02:23:00 - [16] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Ever since the tank update came out people cry about how OP they are which they are not. If you get one other person to work with you you can kill any tank. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy tanks. If you can get 1 other person or even your whole squad to work together you will pose a serious threat to any tanker. ( Ex. 2 Forge, 4 AV Grenade Users ) Or any combination of team work. Even if the tank has hardeners on you can still kill it... its not invincible. Or even if you have a tanker working with you teamwork is the second best way to kill tanks. ( Other than people who use the Gunnlogi, Sica, Dual dmg modifier fit on a rail gun pew pew :( ) Aight if it requires teamwork to kill a tank then it should aswell require it to drive it. I say tankers should be forced to fit all turret slots again. And you obviously dont get it do you? If you need more then 1 player to take out a other player then there is a serious imbalance. it would also make it so blue berrys aren't running for an hour to get to the damn objective. Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"