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Sollemnis Aelinos
89th IMMORTAL ORDER
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:52:00 -
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Its been known that there will be a large number of things coming out in 1.8 but why is the cloak so feard out of all the things that are coming? i was expecting ppl to complain about the incresed resistance to heavy, the increased rate of fire for assaults, or even the possibility of broken weapons like the ion pistol. yet all i see are ppl complaining about cloaks wen we havebt even seen them yet. its like ppl has some sort of psychological fear of scouts becoming balanced. waddya u think guys?
srry for any mispellings, texting from phone
Think about the reason you are born
look inwars to learn the truth
You'er born to develop your soul
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:55:00 -
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Why do I have to look in wars to learn the truth? |
Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1798
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:00:00 -
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you can only reasonably fit cloaks on scouts, and it has restrictions even if you use it so those who say that are idiots.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
899
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:02:00 -
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Last update to the discussion thread changed the assault Rof bonus for reduction to CPU + PG to weapons per level.
Which was good. Rof effected too many weapons differently and increased TTK which is directly against what CCP is trying to do.
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1798
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:04:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Last update to the discussion thread changed the assault Rof bonus for reduction to CPU + PG to weapons per level.
Which was good. Rof effected too many weapons differently and lowered TTK which is directly against what CCP is trying to do.
fixed 
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Sollemnis Aelinos
89th IMMORTAL ORDER
128
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:07:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Last update to the discussion thread changed the assault Rof bonus for reduction to CPU + PG to weapons per level.
Which was good. Rof effected too many weapons differently and increased TTK which is directly against what CCP is trying to do.
i did not know that. thank you for the info :)
Think about the reason you are born
look inwars to learn the truth
You'er born to develop your soul
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
899
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:08:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Last update to the discussion thread changed the assault Rof bonus for reduction to CPU + PG to weapons per level.
Which was good. Rof effected too many weapons differently and lowered TTK which is directly against what CCP is trying to do. fixed
Sorry, tis morning and I haven't had my coffee yet.
I'm old and run on coffee 
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:14:00 -
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Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they will learn why they fear the night. - Thulsa Doom. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
899
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:23:00 -
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Hagintora wrote:Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they will learn why they fear the night. - Thulsa Doom.
"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before" 
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
133
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:31:00 -
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Wish I could use a cloak, pets six kin burst HMG, it would've been fun.
G0DS AM0NG MEN Director
Preferred fit 1 complex damage mod, 2 mlt kin cats, basic HMG, flux grenade on a std sentinel
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Hagintora
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:36:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Hagintora wrote:Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they will learn why they fear the night. - Thulsa Doom. "Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before"
The Clone. he he |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
452
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:42:00 -
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I've only been scouting for about 45 days on this merc who has 4 mill SP. I have level 3 min scout and level 3 dampening and I'm already cloaked to a great many people who have lacking situational awareness. Cloak isn't going to change those sudden shotgun/NK/whatver weapon shot from the back in any way. People will still be going about their business then...dead. All cloak will do is make it more difficult for others to kill us before we get those shots in.
I'm going to be using cloak mostly to escape sniper fire as I stealth my way between FW null cannons with my uplinks.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
75
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:53:00 -
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Agree. Cloaks main advantage will be in traversing open ground, particularly sniper zones.
It will then require the normal patience to execute close range attacks.
Of course some will use it to setup sniper nests. But scout snipers will be the least of your worries when there is a heavy with 25% resistance to sniper fire using a Thale.
Everyone is complaining about the cloaks. It will be redline unkillable snipers that will be annoying both red and blue berries. |
Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
204
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:54:00 -
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Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:Its been known that there will be a large number of things coming out in 1.8 but why is the cloak so feard out of all the things that are coming? i was expecting ppl to complain about the incresed resistance to heavy, the increased rate of fire for assaults, or even the possibility of broken weapons like the ion pistol. yet all i see are ppl complaining about cloaks wen we havebt even seen them yet. its like ppl has some sort of psychological fear of scouts becoming balanced. waddya u think guys?
srry for any mispellings, texting from phone
Nobody is scared of scouts becoming "balanced". Scouts in general are stupid, and don't know their role. I massacre them all the time, because they think they're ninjas, not SCOUTS.
The cloaking field will kill this game. This next patch will be the last one any of us ever see.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
452
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:58:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:Agree. Cloaks main advantage will be in traversing open ground, particularly sniper zones.
It will then require the normal patience to execute close range attacks.
Of course some will use it to setup sniper nests. But scout snipers will be the least of your worries when there is a heavy with 25% resistance to sniper fire using a Thale.
Everyone is complaining about the cloaks. It will be redline unkillable snipers that will be annoying both red and blue berries.
I look forward to seeing the bubble shield whenever it sees the light of day. CCP Remnant mentioned protection from sniper fire in particular.
Subterfuge scout GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Republic Mercenary 6/10
Love the Art of War
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
452
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:05:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:
The cloaking field will kill this game. This next patch will be the last one I ever see.
Fixed. Take it easy, hope you enjoyed your time in New Eden.
Subterfuge scout GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Republic Mercenary 6/10
Love the Art of War
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
75
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:33:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:Its been known that there will be a large number of things coming out in 1.8 but why is the cloak so feard out of all the things that are coming? i was expecting ppl to complain about the incresed resistance to heavy, the increased rate of fire for assaults, or even the possibility of broken weapons like the ion pistol. yet all i see are ppl complaining about cloaks wen we havebt even seen them yet. its like ppl has some sort of psychological fear of scouts becoming balanced. waddya u think guys?
srry for any mispellings, texting from phone Nobody is scared of scouts becoming "balanced". Scouts in general are stupid, and don't know their role. I massacre them all the time, because they think they're ninjas, not SCOUTS. The cloaking field will kill this game. This next patch will be the last one any of us ever see.
Have you watched the professional?
STD scouts should be casing their target from afar, shoot no more then a clip from a sniper rifle or RR and move on. They should be targeting foes that are already distracted and engaged. Work as mini me Logi's and deliver links and hives to open flanking attacks on the enemy. Scout the perimeter and knock out enemy uplinks and supply points. Give there team a heads up of incoming and then supply support fire from afar.
ADV scouts can easily use a shotgun or AR to disrupt enemy lines from behind and keep moving. Main idea is to put your opponents off balance, let patience be your friend and don't let routine be your downfall.
Proto scouts can slice and dice your arse with a Nova Knife and they are minja and ganjas. Based on who the Professional is Caladri will be the cleaners. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
7018
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:48:00 -
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Do you seriously compare 15% resistance and 10% ROF (which is gone) to BEING INVISIBLE?
Are you joking?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
901
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:51:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Do you seriously compare 15% resistance and 10% ROF (which is gone) to BEING INVISIBLE?
Are you joking?
Its not invisibility
There are visual effects that are always active - as stated even being perfectly still your 'practically invisible'
Its more akin to camouflage
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1857
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:56:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Do you seriously compare 15% resistance and 10% ROF (which is gone) to BEING INVISIBLE?
Are you joking? Its not invisibility There are visual effects that are always active - as stated even being perfectly still your 'practically invisible' Its more akin to camouflage
You know why? Because everyone thought it was the most BS thing.
WAY more so than resistance or RoF.
TBH people weren't really worried about the way scouts could use it - it was the way Logis could use it that was the problem.
Forge on for great justice!
Defend the meek! Destroy the weak!
Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
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