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Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:12:00 - [1] - Quote Now for some reason every time I say this, people think I'm insane and say I lack a basic understanding of property laws, but if an RDV pilot gets your vehicle or himself destroyed BEFORE you have control over your vehicle, shouldn't he be the one who has to pay for it? I mean, if you ordered something online, and the truck delivering it to you crashes on the way there, why the ** would they make you pay for the item you ordered because it got destroyed while out of your control. The deliveryman would obviously be the one who paid for it, or at least the company he works for. Every time I tell someone this on Dust they think i am ***** crazy. Am I insane for not wanting to pay for something that was destroyed prior to me having physical ownership of it? Also if RDV pilots get destroyed because they were called into a heated warzone, then they should just say "lolno, too dangerous." and if you insist, THEN they can charge you for endangering their pilots. Make sure to tell me I'm crazy and have no understanding of property and delivery laws. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:16:00 - [2] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Cool, so next time I park in the wrong spot and get towed, they should foot the bill for me parking there! Sounds wonderful!! I think you missed the point. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:18:00 - [3] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: Cool, so next time I park in the wrong spot and get towed, they should foot the bill for me parking there! Sounds wonderful!! Completely off topic and in no way relates to post You forgot to say your ******* crazy Hynox you have no idea what your talking about. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:20:00 - [4] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Did you pay extra for insurance? No? Then they are not obliged to compensate you for your loss. That's how shipping real packages works, at least, I think. When you asked them to deliver it somewhere hazardous, you accepted the risk of damage or destruction prior to delivery. They should pay in a perfect carebear world, but this is New Eden, they are not required to, and therefore won't. But this is my point, in a world motivated by corporate gain and money, how the **** do I get charged because the deliveryman derped? AND LETS BE HONEST HERE, MY DELIVERYMAN DERPS ALOT. I would pay for insurance in a heartbeat. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:26:00 - [5] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: Cool, so next time I park in the wrong spot and get towed, they should foot the bill for me parking there! Sounds wonderful!! Completely off topic and in no way relates to post Yes it does. You're just not smart enough to get it. Hey man u parked there thats your fault when a rdv gets blown up on its way there thats not YOUR fault therefore you shouldn't pay for it Excuse me sir you need to pay for the delivery truck as well as all of it's cargo because our driver was busy masturbating whilst driving. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:38:00 - [6] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: Cool, so next time I park in the wrong spot and get towed, they should foot the bill for me parking there! Sounds wonderful!! Completely off topic and in no way relates to post Yes it does. You're just not smart enough to get it. Hey man u parked there thats your fault when a rdv gets blown up on its way there thats not YOUR fault therefore you shouldn't pay for it Parking spot = battlefield. Chance of succesful parking and not getting caught = chance of RDV exploding on battlefield en route to vehicle drop off or not. Either case, your responsibility. You ever heard of, **** happens? Please explain to me how a clearly deranged RDV pilot who I do not legally own is my responsibility. Just because CCP made this the mechanic doesn't mean it makes sense/should be defended yo. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:45:00 - [7] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Because the RDV company's desire for corporate gain is more powerful than your single merc's. Their legal team makes sure they don't pay a cent more than they have to, and given that we can't seem to sue them, they have to pay nothing at all. I'd like to the the court case that rules that the buyer of a product is charged a fee because the deliveryman didn't do his job. If CCP actually wants to have a working in-game economy, they should probably learn basic delivery laws. Being in space doesn't mean people can ******* charge you because they failed to deliver something. They way I see it, until the vehicle is physically on the ground, and the RDV pilot no longer has physical ownership of it, the RDV pilot/company is still legally liable for it, because you know, thats how delivery services work. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:54:00 - [8] - Quote Seems like people are defending the game's mechanics for the sake of defending the game, I'm fairly certain everyone would like it if their RDV doesn't charge them for the vehicle that got rail gunned before it even touched the ground. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 190	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:00:00 - [9] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Hynox Xitio wrote: Seems like people are defending the game's mechanics for the sake of defending the game, I'm fairly certain everyone would like it if their RDV doesn't charge them for the vehicle that got rail gunned before it even touched the ground. Spoken not for the sake of, Hynox. If its gunned down by a rail, well, its gunned down by a rail. It's a battlefield. I expect things to happen to a big ship that decloaks with a new toy being delivered to some no name mercenary hiding behind a trailer. I'm fine with RDV's getting destroyed, I'm even fine with refusing to deliver in a high-combat area, I just hate having to pay for cars I never got to drive, nor do I think others should have to pay for cars I blow up mid-transport. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 191	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:11:00 - [10] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: LOL IRL I think individual mercs don't own their tanks either. It's not like being a trucker for hire with his own truck. I detect apologism, sir! Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy

Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 198	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:34:00 - [11] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: RDV's don't have pilots, they are drones, drones owned by the corporation you fight for and are only following a command that you sent from your neocom handpad thing. You made the call so you foot the bill. RDV AI could be tuned a bit though EDIT [url]http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicles[/url] Actually their human pilots, hence theres a cockpit and a windshield. I believe CCP also had some sort of concept art blatantly showing an RDV pilot, although I wouldn't blame you for not trusting concept art. BUT THAT WINDSHIELD THO EDIT: Yes I read the wiki and I dare say the wiki is wrong. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 212	Posted - 2014.03.02 14:53:00 - [12] - Quote Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: Hynox Xitio wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: RDV's don't have pilots, they are drones, drones owned by the corporation you fight for and are only following a command that you sent from your neocom handpad thing. You made the call so you foot the bill. RDV AI could be tuned a bit though EDIT [url]http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicles[/url] Actually their human pilots, hence theres a cockpit and a windshield. I believe CCP also had some sort of concept art blatantly showing an RDV pilot, although I wouldn't blame you for not trusting concept art. BUT THAT WINDSHIELD THO EDIT: Yes I read the wiki and I dare say the wiki is wrong. what art of REMOTE DEPLOYMENT VEHICLE dont you understand it is rebotics m8 hence the "remote" RDV stands for Rapid Deployment Vehicle, granted I think it should be called "Rapid Deployment Vehicle?" Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy

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