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Type 2910 MK-II
The United Peoples' Tactical Force
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Posted - 2014.03.01 00:18:00 -
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I mainly want to hear from other logi players on this post but others input so long as it is mutually respectful is welcome.
This is what being a logi is like unless you are with a friendly group.
1.
Spawn Mini logi with rep tool, injector, uplink, 200 or so armor and about 100 shields.
2.
Run for objective to drop an uplink without team and have them get pissed at me but potenitally hack and keep the objective long enough for people to spawn in and help, or stick around with the heavies and hope that I can get the uplink in a decent spot also hope that the enemy hasn't hunkered down at the objective to well yet.
3.
Drop uplink in a location I hope isn't going to be watched and make a break for a supply depot to swap suit to a mini logi with rep tool, injector, nano hive, 550 armor and about 100 shields then run back to my team during all of step 3 praying I'm not going to get singled out because I'm bright yellow.
4.
Once I have regrouped with everyone if they did not cover me while I made a run for the supply depot, rep tool the heavy while he lays covering fire and draws the attention and inevitably they will see me beside him sooner or later because 10m distance on rep tool and I need line of sight, after about 30 seconds my triage points are capped out and I am now standing in the open, wearing bright yellow, completely defenseless because I have a rep tool in my hands and gaining nothing but the occasional bullet if I'm lucky or if it goes the way it usually does having the whole enemy team trying to kill me.
5.
At this point I need to drop both k2 nano hives one for the heavy and 1 where ever the rest of the squad is but without leaving the heavy and again praying I'm not going to get killed because again my weapon is not out. Heavy agrees to take cover for a minute while I have to locate the rest of my team that may or may not be pushing at the enemy from behind then get back to the heavy without dying, this is the only point so far I have been able to defend myself using my exile assault rifle which is completely useless against most combat rifle and rail rifle enemies. This is usually where I loose my first 80k ISK. Once i get to the other squad members I give them reps if need be potentially still not getting points for it because of the triage point cap, drop them their ammo and run back to the heavy.
6.
No its time to push forward with the heavy. We move into a position to advance into the line of fire while I pray that the other team doesn't notice that I am bright yellow. Usually I will cap out on triage points within 30 seconds again and probably die 2-3 times so another 160k-240k ISK lost there. This can go on for a very long time usually resulting in the rest of the squad having to give up on the original flank tactic and regrouping to try push and I may or may not loose a further 1-2 suits.
7.
Once we get the null cannon I now run around like a headless chicken catering to my squads every need and if my team needs it trying to doge stray bullets and hostile grenades and the occasional remote explosive suicider.
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If all goes well we have won by this point I may have between 2000-4000 warpoints and maybe if I'm lucky earning enough ISK to pay for the suits I lost, most likely with a negative KD (I really don't care about KD I just think it may help get across that I'm not a slayer) because I'm such an obvious target.
Throughout the game there is lots of yelling out for support and to do my job better etc
No I'm not trying to start a riot and usually I only get abused by my team for being a bad logi when I'm not with my brother or the Sentinels of New Eden. Luckily they are usually very nice and understanding of the stresses of a logi and the CEO is also a support logi so there's usually 2 logis in a squad, playing with them is nice.
So in the update of 1.8 if they do nerf the logi suit I will have a look and see if it is still bearable to play if not then I might do proto mini assualt and get about a 40% damage increase with 5 proto damage mods. |
Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
421
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:00:00 -
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You forgot:
-If the heavy you're repping wonders around like their lost only to get surrounded and blaming it on you.
-Enemies cooking/throwing grenades pass the person you're repping to kill you.
-The yellow line from the rep tool makes it easier for your enemies to find you.
-Selfish squad mates that don't realise you're down,even though you were standing right next to them.
-Everyone expecting logis to rep themselves,refill ammo,AND keep a heavy that's standing in a snipers sights alive,all without cover.
-Repping heavies from behind,only to have them "strafe" and let 3 shots by that kill you.
-General lack of concern for a logis wellbeing.
-Players getting mad i made more WP for busting my ass supporting the team,than killing
EDIT:Generally everyone wants a logi when they need reps ot ammo,but if they don't you're garbage to them.
Good logis are severely underappreciated.
You'll know when you're with a good logi,because it'll feel like you're playing a different game,one where you don't die in 3 shots.
Only users lose drugs.
Time wounds all heels.
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Type 2910 MK-II
The United Peoples' Tactical Force
12
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:07:00 -
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Meee One wrote: You forgot:
-If the heavy you're repping wonders around like their lost only to get surrounded and blaming it on you.
-Enemies cooking/throwing grenades pass the person you're repping to kill you.
-The yellow line from the rep tool makes it easier for your enemies to find you.
-Selfish squad mates that don't realise you're down,even though you were standing right next to them.
-Everyone expecting logis to rep themselves,refill ammo,AND keep a heavy that's standing in a snipers sights alive,all without cover.
-Repping heavies from behind,only to have them "strafe" and let 3 shots by that kill you.
-General lack of concern for a logis wellbeing.
-Players getting mad i made more WP for busting my ass supporting the team,than killing.
Yes I agree I just didn't want to get to into my writing otherwise I wouldn't have to play. |
Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
560
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:14:00 -
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Sounds about right, i made a topic a few days ago called "tired of being a logibro" that was pretty much about how i was tired off working my butt off but being blamed for never having enough scans, uplinks, nano hives, and reps.
Actualy got told NOT to spam uplinks and just stick to the heavys despite me saying we had one uplink left on the dom objective. Iwanted to yell "do you even play dom?! Get uplinks down or get red lined"
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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Type 2910 MK-II
The United Peoples' Tactical Force
12
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:18:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Sounds about right, i made a topic a few days ago called "tired of being a logibro" that was pretty much about how i was tired off working my butt off but being blamed for never having enough scans, uplinks, nano hives, and reps.
Actualy got told NOT to spam uplinks and just stick to the heavys despite me saying we had one uplink left on the dom objective. Iwanted to yell "do you even play dom?! Get uplinks down or get red lined"
I just read your post actually so yeah I decided to write my own kind of one because I wanted to point out the triage cap point cap out subtly
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Outlaw OneZero
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1163
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:21:00 -
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You all need better teammates. |
Fuzzy McTickles
Sentinels of New Eden
14
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:26:00 -
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Outlaw OneZero wrote:You all need better teammates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
292
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:31:00 -
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Type 2910 MK-II wrote:Stuff
I must be in a great corp, because I never hear people trying to swell up on me about doing my job. All I ever get is "Thanks","Oh man, I needed that ammo","Thanks for the pick up" and the like.
Just let someone try to tell me how to do my job in squad.
Now, if its from one logi to another, say like, pro logi tips from someone whose better at logiing than I, then sure, lemme take some notes. But if you're some bag of feminine wash QQing because you're reckless and need someone to blame shift on, your rage will fall upon deaf ears.
"...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
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Tectonic Fusion
1150
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:35:00 -
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I use my Caldari logi to get in with a LAV, recall the LAV, place down my uplinks in places that are hard to flux, hack the objective, place nanohives down, and defend the objective and wait for my team with my ACR, grenades, and rep tool.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Thanjac
Ruthless Chaos
46
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:39:00 -
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As a heavy/commando, let me just say I LOVE YOU LOGI's and I won't ever complain about you, because my alt is a min logi.
Proud Commando/ARC Instructor
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
889
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:41:00 -
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Was in a squad with a corpmate and a friend of his, 3-man team. Two heavies, one Logi-Scout. His friend kept running into enemy fire and screaming 'Where is the Logi when you need one?!!' cause I wouldn't follow him into a group of reds.
He should have been using a HMG instead of a RR maybe he would have taken out some of the guys. Then he complains about enemies using RRs and not repping him enough and blaming his recklessness on me.
Just cause I'm suicidal doesn't mean I'm stupid. The last straw was when he shot at a Gunlogi with his RR and he promptly blasted him practically across the map and he started in on me again about me being a 'noob logi.' I stopped repping him after that.
Psycho Scout
Cool McCoolNess- Incubus
Speedy McFaster- Logi?
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
194
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:47:00 -
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i used to be a rude heavy to logis (not intentionally) i would do an asault circle dance when in a skirm against 2-3v1 not thiking that my logi is useing my fat backside for cover and end up getting them killed
only to realize once i hear there cries over coms
and then feel sad that i let my logi die
but then to be a better freind to mai logis i made a logi scrub alt so that i could learn how to be a good logi and help keep mine alive and be a better heavy
i also made a scout alt to learn to counter the lil s.o.b's i honestly think eevery one should play as both a scout and logi on a alt just to learn how to think like them so we can be better against and for them
Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for,
welcome to New Eden
-ill b there SoonGäó
KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
889
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:55:00 -
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This alt, read first sig.
Seconded alt, second sig.
Third alt, third sig.
I have always respected Logis. Even more so now cause I am one. Its a thinking mans job, like a scout. You cannot be selfish for either role. The RR was build for Logis ONLY cause CCP took away they're sidearm and they need a short-mid and long weapon, only Logis should use them.
Will someone acknowledge this?
Psycho Scout
Cool McCoolNess- Incubus
Speedy McFaster- Logi?
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
293
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Posted - 2014.03.01 02:00:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:This alt, read first sig.
Seconded alt, second sig.
Third alt, third sig.
I have always respected Logis. Even more so now cause I am one. Its a thinking mans job, like a scout. You cannot be selfish for either role. The RR was build for Logis ONLY cause CCP took away they're sidearm and they need a short-mid and long weapon, only Logis should use them.
Will someone acknowledge this?
I have acknowledged this and I do use it. I will restate that the slow RoF is great for tracking reds with my less than decent gun game. 
"...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
890
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Posted - 2014.03.01 02:04:00 -
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Thank you for acknowledging this.
Psycho Scout that likes knives and explosions
Cool McCoolNess- Incubus
Speedy McFaster- Logi
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
425
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Posted - 2014.03.01 02:11:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Was in a squad with a corpmate and a friend of his, 3-man team. Two heavies, one Logi-Scout.
His friend kept running into enemy fire and screaming 'Where is the Logi when you need one?!!' cause I wouldn't follow him into a group of reds.
He should have been using a HMG instead of a RR maybe he would have taken out some of the guys. Then he complains about enemies using RRs and not repping him enough and blaming his recklessness on me.
Just cause I'm suicidal doesn't mean I'm stupid.
The last straw was when he shot at a Gunlogi with his RR and he promptly blasted him practically across the map and he started in on me again about me being a 'noob logi.' I stopped repping him after that.
A good way to teach a loud mouth a lesson is to revive them....over and over...
PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I have always respected Logis. Even more so now cause I am one. Its a thinking mans job, like a scout. You cannot be selfish for either role. The RR was build for Logis ONLY cause CCP took away they're sidearm and they need a short-mid and long weapon, only Logis should use them.
Will someone acknowledge this?
To be honest i wouldn't have much use for it,seeing as i'm too busy monitoring my allies health gauges.
I wouldn't mind more stamina or tank though,my main problem is when my enemies discover i'm a good logi it gets 100x harder to survive.
Only users lose drugs.
Time wounds all heels.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2173
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Posted - 2014.03.01 02:44:00 -
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I never hear anything negative from my corp because they know what a logi adds. If you do, time to find a new corp.
As for running solo, I usually don't turn on team chat. Rarely facilitates things any. I kinda like it when I'm the only logi in Dom, as I can rack up major points. Of course, with the event nowadays I start with my uplink suit, make 2 layers of spawns, and after I get killed, go all HMG wall of death. Very fun change of pace.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
560
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Posted - 2014.03.01 03:40:00 -
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Type 2910 MK-II wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Sounds about right, i made a topic a few days ago called "tired of being a logibro" that was pretty much about how i was tired off working my butt off but being blamed for never having enough scans, uplinks, nano hives, and reps.
Actualy got told NOT to spam uplinks and just stick to the heavys despite me saying we had one uplink left on the dom objective. Iwanted to yell "do you even play dom?! Get uplinks down or get red lined" I just read your post actually so yeah I decided to write my own kind of one because I wanted to point out the triage cap point cap out subtly
Lol well while it isent like that everyday, but somedays I feel like saying Fem then I go slayer logi for a round, get more kills than any of the full time slayers in squad and tell them to suck it up :D (and no the logi suit dosent make me a good killer, its just the only suit Im skilled into.)
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
74
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Posted - 2014.03.01 03:57:00 -
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I normally run in as a scout/RR/dual up linker and then spawn as a logi lite (adv hive, injector, std repper) or an AR scout or a logi hacker or a shotgun/RE scout.
Logi and Scout compliment each other nicely. Yet to try a repper scout as that is my weakest equipment. |
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