well they are not bad but need to be btter, if it takes 3 blasts of and adv. shotgun to kill an adv. heavy we got a problem, for most heavys will have turnd in that time after the fist 2 shots, if you now take into account that a scout literally has 0 health and will only barely survive if he survives the encounter something is wrong.

In that situation the scout did eerything right, he came hiden to the heavy and once he approached his supposed to be victim he should have the upper hand and win the engagement, no discussion, thats just how it should be.

If the scout already got into the eye of the heavy before hand and goes into a strafing engagment against a heavy is understandable that is a par fight, but not in the situation stated above.

Your right they arent that bad when you sneak up on someone,but i can do that with all other weapons and actally have te option of fighting someone head on aswell.

Wanting to get rid of my 100 HK whatever shotguns, I decided to put them on my Logi who is stacked with profile dampeners, shield extenders, standard flux grenades, and a quantum scanner.

Surprisingly, I've been going positive with them in the matches I've played. I will admit that there are a few cases where some hits don't register, but I can overlook that setback because the weapon is so darned fun to use. It's very satisfying to shoot heavies in the face. Although many don't fall in one hit, the excitement I get out of trying to jump around their HMG fire is like no other.

Goodbye, sneaky CR Logi Scout thingie. Hello new best friend.

IMO these are the issues with the shotgun.

-Needs a slight increase in effective range.
-Random hit detection/lag issues make it unreliable.
-Sprint glitch, makes shotgun scouts even less effective.

Given the right conditions, the shotgun is awesome. Unfortunately, rifles are FAR more effective in these same situations, as well as every other situations. I love my shotgun, but my CR out shines it in every way.

well they are not bad but need to be btter, if it takes 3 blasts of and adv. shotgun to kill an adv. heavy we got a problem, for most heavys will have turnd in that time after the fist 2 shots, if you now take into account that a scout literally has 0 health and will only barely survive if he survives the encounter something is wrong.

In that situation the scout did eerything right, he came hiden to the heavy and once he approached his supposed to be victim he should have the upper hand and win the engagement, no discussion, thats just how it should be.

If the scout already got into the eye of the heavy before hand and goes into a strafing engagment against a heavy is understandable that is a par fight, but not in the situation stated above.

well they are not bad but need to be btter, if it takes 3 blasts of and adv. shotgun to kill an adv. heavy we got a problem, for most heavys will have turnd in that time after the fist 2 shots, if you now take into account that a scout literally has 0 health and will only barely survive if he survives the encounter something is wrong.

In that situation the scout did eerything right, he came hiden to the heavy and once he approached his supposed to be victim he should have the upper hand and win the engagement, no discussion, thats just how it should be.

If the scout already got into the eye of the heavy before hand and goes into a strafing engagment against a heavy is understandable that is a par fight, but not in the situation stated above.

3 shots to kill an ADV? I guess thats true if you miss the 1st 2 shots

No, no, no. Fix the light suit, not the weapon. Heavies should have a chance to get you after you start shooting. Light suits should have better speed and mobility though so that you can keep moving better.