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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:30:00 -
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Gallente Research Facility Skirmish, 1 frame in 10 seconds, spawn die, spawn die, spawn die.
Outside or inside it didn't matter, there has been major bursts of lag this evening. 3500 players should not lag the game out this bad, heck 32 players shouldn't lag it out this bad.
30fps is the bare MINIMUM that any First Person Shooter should play at. If its that hard to figure out then pull the GD map.
Every time I pulled my trigger it Lag spiked, every time I moved it lagged, when I decide to pull out equipment it lagged, when hacking anything it lagged.
Fix the game damnit.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
98
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:32:00 -
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gotta be honest with you man
i think it has more to do with your internet connection than CCP's
i NEVER get lag, and I do mean NEVER. I think its because I live a block or two away from the Comcast building.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:35:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think it has more to do with your internet connection than CCP's
i NEVER get lag, and I do mean NEVER. I think its because I live a block or two away from the Comcast building. Nope, not my connection speedtest and any of my streaming services I use all say its the map and the game. Broken Broken Broken. Fix the game or trash it. I played on a good 10-20 different maps today, this is the only one with lag issues, always has had them, and it has been commented on many time by multiple people the map sucks dickcheany.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:38:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think I am an idiot and don't know wtf is wrong so I should really not reply to any Lag issue questions with your fibre has a kink in it.
Fixed
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
98
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:42:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think it has more to do with your internet connection than CCP's
i NEVER get lag, and I do mean NEVER. I think its because I live a block or two away from the Comcast building. Nope, not my connection speedtest and any of my streaming services I use all say its the map and the game. Broken Broken Broken. Fix the game or trash it. I played on a good 10-20 different maps today, this is the only one with lag issues, always has had them, and it has been commented on many time by multiple people the map sucks dickcheany.
oh i dont know which one gallente research facility is
but seriously i never get lag in dust, when everybody else says they do. even when Mottainai JAPAN attacked our district and got the Oceania server before we got America, and everyone else in my corp lagged to death, I didn't even experience lag at all.
the only time i get lag is when the whole 32 player game crashes (which has happened a couple times this month), or it's just the other person lagging. and sometimes when i respawn but not much
the last time i had any lag problems was 1.6 or 1.5 it was a long time ago and i would get really bad lag and then all of a sudden one day it stopped and never came back, they probably fixed it during down time
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:44:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think I am an idiot and don't know wtf is wrong so I should really not reply to any Lag issue questions with your fibre has a kink in it. Fixed
ok fine be a **** im just trying to help you solve the problem but you're not worth my time
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:45:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think it has more to do with your internet connection than CCP's
i NEVER get lag, and I do mean NEVER. I think its because I live a block or two away from the Comcast building. Nope, not my connection speedtest and any of my streaming services I use all say its the map and the game. Broken Broken Broken. Fix the game or trash it. I played on a good 10-20 different maps today, this is the only one with lag issues, always has had them, and it has been commented on many time by multiple people the map sucks dickcheany. oh i dont know which one gallente research facility is but seriously i never get lag in dust, when everybody else says they do. even when Mottainai JAPAN attacked our district and got the Oceania server before we got America, and everyone else in my corp lagged to death, I didn't even experience lag at all. the only time i get lag is when the whole 32 player game crashes (which has happened a couple times this month), or it's just the other person lagging. and sometimes when i respawn but not much the last time i had any lag problems was 1.6 or 1.5 it was a long time ago and i would get really bad lag and then all of a sudden one day it stopped and never came back, they probably fixed it during down time My squad, more than 1 person in squad, was having issues to one degree or another. The problem is that this is a recurring problem only on this map.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:48:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think I am an idiot and don't know wtf is wrong so I should really not reply to any Lag issue questions with your fibre has a kink in it. Fixed ok fine be a **** im just trying to help you solve the problem but you're not worth my time Help me solve my problem? I have high speed hosting connection, try again. Have you ever hooked a PS3 to a cell phone or dial up service to play? No I didn't think so. What exactly did you say that was helpful?
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:13:00 -
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I apologize if any of the above content in this thread offends anyone, this is the only map that on a regular basis lags out hard on me, the bug was reported several times but CCP has not responded other than thank you for your feedback and check your internet connection which I have repeatedly.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1155
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:35:00 -
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Wait, so you're having FPS issues right?
FPS issues are commonly referred to as "lag" in the english language. It is, however, an entirely seperate thing from actual network lag, which should never degrade the amount of frames your PS3 renders per second (unless the cause of network lag is a DDoS attack on your console but let's not get ridiculous here)
Try a fresh install is all I can offer if I understand your post correctly.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:43:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Wait, so you're having FPS issues right?
FPS issues are commonly referred to as "lag" in the english language. It is, however, an entirely seperate thing from actual network lag, which should never degrade the amount of frames your PS3 renders per second (unless the cause of network lag is a DDoS attack on your console but let's not get ridiculous here)
Try a fresh install is all I can offer if I understand your post correctly.
I have tried this in the past and it has not fixed the issue. I believe it is a problem with the map itself and cannot be fixed by the end user.
Also repaired the D-base on the PS3, defrag and system restores as well both before and after what you suggest, nothing has resolved the issue.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1155
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:54:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Wait, so you're having FPS issues right?
FPS issues are commonly referred to as "lag" in the english language. It is, however, an entirely seperate thing from actual network lag, which should never degrade the amount of frames your PS3 renders per second (unless the cause of network lag is a DDoS attack on your console but let's not get ridiculous here)
Try a fresh install is all I can offer if I understand your post correctly.
I have tried this in the past and it has not fixed the issue. I believe it is a problem with the map itself and cannot be fixed by the end user. Quite possible. But for this to be the likely culprit this issue should've been a common experience for most/all players. 0.1 FPS (if you're not excaggerating by two orders of magnitude) is outrageously bad.
Just to be sure: Can you confirm what you are experiencing is the image on your screen being as a whole completely still? No running but not actually moving characters, no looking around, nothing?
There have also been reports of older PS3 having massive framerate issues in dust. Are you playing on a fatty by any chance?
Edit: to edit. That covers about all the steps you could do on your end that i know of.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:57:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Wait, so you're having FPS issues right?
FPS issues are commonly referred to as "lag" in the english language. It is, however, an entirely seperate thing from actual network lag, which should never degrade the amount of frames your PS3 renders per second (unless the cause of network lag is a DDoS attack on your console but let's not get ridiculous here)
Try a fresh install is all I can offer if I understand your post correctly.
I have tried this in the past and it has not fixed the issue. I believe it is a problem with the map itself and cannot be fixed by the end user. Quite possible. But for this to be the likely culprit this issue should've been a common experience for most/all players. 0.1 FPS (if you're not excaggerating by two orders of magnitude) is outrageously bad. Just to be sure: Can you confirm what you are experiencing is the image on your screen being as a whole completely still? No running but not actually moving characters, no looking around, nothing? There have also been reports of older PS3 having massive framerate issues in dust. Are you playing on a fatty by any chance? I don't have a screen cap but yes it was as bad as I say, complete lack of movement for 10 seconds then unfreeze in an explosion or straight to the deploy screen, do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
5111
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:04:00 -
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There have been frequent latency issues over the past few weeks. I've been recording them all and passing them along to CCP. It's not the Gallente Research Facility (though this map does sometimes have framerate dips) it's literally latency lag and it has been confirmed by everyone in the matches that it occurs in.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1155
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:06:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote: I don't have a screen cap but yes it was as bad as I say, complete lack of movement for 10 seconds then unfreeze in an explosion or straight to the deploy screen, do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars.
Ok. That's your PS3 struggling for some reason then. Only thing i can advice at this point is submitting yet another ticket (oh jolly, i know ). This time try and make sure the support dude doesn't misconstrue your issue for some network related thing. First thing would be to strictly avoid the term "lag" because that's almost certainly not what's causing your trouble.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:There have been frequent latency issues over the past few weeks. I've been recording them all and passing them along to CCP. It's not the Gallente Research Facility (though this map does sometimes have framerate dips) it's literally latency lag and it has been confirmed by everyone in the matches that it occurs in. Thanks for the information, I knew it was more than just me, and can confirm that this is the most major dip in frame rate I have EVER seen in this game, I would record the issues as well if it were not for the lackluster capture setup I have, that only records on 480p or is done by Handycam. Please keep it up we need this fixed asap.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
785
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:19:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote: I don't have a screen cap but yes it was as bad as I say, complete lack of movement for 10 seconds then unfreeze in an explosion or straight to the deploy screen, do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars.
Ok. That's your PS3 struggling for some reason then. Only thing i can advice at this point is submitting yet another ticket (oh jolly, i know ). This time try and make sure the support dude doesn't misconstrue your issue for some network related thing. First thing would be to strictly avoid the term "lag" because that's almost certainly not what's causing your trouble. I appreciate that you are trying to help, but I know that it is not the machine that is having issues due to all the test I have run on it since the match. Everything you had suggested I had already tried due to issues I have experienced since CB and troubleshooted already. If it were as simple as you say, hardware, then my squadmates wouldn't have been having issues as well.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1156
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:35:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote: I don't have a screen cap but yes it was as bad as I say, complete lack of movement for 10 seconds then unfreeze in an explosion or straight to the deploy screen, do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars.
Ok. That's your PS3 struggling for some reason then. Only thing i can advice at this point is submitting yet another ticket (oh jolly, i know ). This time try and make sure the support dude doesn't misconstrue your issue for some network related thing. First thing would be to strictly avoid the term "lag" because that's almost certainly not what's causing your trouble. I appreciate that you are trying to help, but I know that it is not the machine that is having issues due to all the test I have run on it since the match. Everything you had suggested I had already tried due to issues I have experienced since CB and troubleshooted already. If it were as simple as you say, hardware, then my squadmates wouldn't have been having issues as well. With this I wasn't trying to say that your console is the problem, mind you.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1843
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:59:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think it has more to do with your internet connection than CCP's
i NEVER get lag, and I do mean NEVER. I think its because I live a block or two away from the Comcast building. Nope, not my connection speedtest and any of my streaming services I use all say its the map and the game. Broken Broken Broken. Fix the game or trash it. I played on a good 10-20 different maps today, this is the only one with lag issues, always has had them, and it has been commented on many time by multiple people the map sucks dickcheany.
You know: It's kinda weird that you seem to be the only person with this problem. So maybe you should just fix or thrash your PS3?
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
787
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:05:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:bamboo x wrote:gotta be honest with you man
i think it has more to do with your internet connection than CCP's
i NEVER get lag, and I do mean NEVER. I think its because I live a block or two away from the Comcast building. Nope, not my connection speedtest and any of my streaming services I use all say its the map and the game. Broken Broken Broken. Fix the game or trash it. I played on a good 10-20 different maps today, this is the only one with lag issues, always has had them, and it has been commented on many time by multiple people the map sucks dickcheany. You know: It's kinda weird that you seem to be the only person with this problem. So maybe you should just fix or thrash your PS3? Ever seen the manual treyarch put out with their games on how to tell if someone is really paying attention? On the first page it says plant a knife in their back, on the second it says shoot them a bundle of C4 and watch them explode, third it say drop a napalm strike on their head and fourth is says pull out your network cable. None of these issues are related just to me, don't be a derp, read the posts.
Edit: "trash it" was in reference to the map
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tander09
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
40
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:24:00 -
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Lower dem graphics dude! Ya don't need them anyway! That will help your frame rate.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
787
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:25:00 -
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tander09 wrote:Lower dem graphics dude! Ya don't need them anyway! That will help your frame rate. I thought about it already, had them on the lowest setting before deployment, this is not an equipment problem.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:39:00 -
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Dust is laggy, sometimes. But in your place i recheck test and take a look on lost packets. Speed itself is not mostly problem, but a ping. If you have big lose of sent info to servers or received ones it should be a problem. Check your ping. Another thing is playtime, if you will play on time when mostly playing your region it should be fine. Otherway if you playing with someone who is from other side of Earth, there can be problem (i had this issue manytimes due my games with boyos from US - Iam EU). And thir thing is connection itself, never i repeat NEVER play through wifi, ps3 have one of most weak wifi what exist. Everytime hook cable. I think that all what i know, i saw few threads about forwarding to sony servers, but thats too technical for me XD Oki good luck with that and maybe my small info help you, bud still good luck boyo.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
787
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:48:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Dust is laggy, sometimes. But in your place you must have a kink in your fibre because thats how i always install mine
Sorry I will refer you to post one in the list of posts here, go find someone who hasn't already indicated that it has been tested to share this information with.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
787
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:21:00 -
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tander09 wrote:Lower dem graphics dude! Ya don't need them anyway! That will help your frame rate. Results of tests indicate this may be the problem, wonder why QA doesn't pick up on the fact beforehand and tell designers that they need to fix the issue by not making it an issue in the first place, damnit I guess we are the QA department.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1871
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:45:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Gallente Research Facility Skirmish, 1 frame in 10 seconds, spawn die, spawn die, spawn die.
Outside or inside it didn't matter, there has been major bursts of lag this evening. 3500 players should not lag the game out this bad, heck 32 players shouldn't lag it out this bad.
30fps is the bare MINIMUM that any First Person Shooter should play at. If its that hard to figure out then pull the GD map.
Every time I pulled my trigger it Lag spiked, every time I moved it lagged, when I decide to pull out equipment it lagged, when hacking anything it lagged.
Fix the game damnit.
Edit: Fair warning, I will troll you if you say it's my damn Internet Connection, this has been checked and is not the case.
Edit2: Testing has indicated this is a result of textures and gfx set to HIGH.
My feedback to CCP is this: the game should be playable on any gfx setting based on the hardware which doesn't change and isn't upgradeable like a computer, please figure out how to optimize the game for the PS3, not your desktops where you are designing it on.
The PS3 is a POS. Why have graphics setting if it could run at 30fps on high? Wouldn't everyone run on high gfx? The point of having the setting is so you can choose what balance you like - prettiness or fps.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
788
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Posted - 2014.03.01 03:12:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:Gallente Research Facility Skirmish, 1 frame in 10 seconds, spawn die, spawn die, spawn die.
Outside or inside it didn't matter, there has been major bursts of lag this evening. 3500 players should not lag the game out this bad, heck 32 players shouldn't lag it out this bad.
30fps is the bare MINIMUM that any First Person Shooter should play at. If its that hard to figure out then pull the GD map.
Every time I pulled my trigger it Lag spiked, every time I moved it lagged, when I decide to pull out equipment it lagged, when hacking anything it lagged.
Fix the game damnit.
Edit: Fair warning, I will troll you if you say it's my damn Internet Connection, this has been checked and is not the case.
Edit2: Testing has indicated this is a result of textures and gfx set to HIGH.
My feedback to CCP is this: the game should be playable on any gfx setting based on the hardware which doesn't change and isn't upgradeable like a computer, please figure out how to optimize the game for the PS3, not your desktops where you are designing it on. The PS3 is a POS. Why have graphics setting if it could run at 30fps on high? Wouldn't everyone run on high gfx? The point of having the setting is so you can choose what balance you like - prettiness or fps. Well, I can clearly tell that the High GFX option doesn't actually improve the quality of the picture, it may be more processor dependant but on my tv it was rendered far clearer and crisper without the high setting enabled. Using a 52" LCD TV should have the benefit of better gfx at higher quality settings but it serves no purpose if the rendering is more pixelated and the draw is more choppy due to frame rate issues.
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The-Errorist
522
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:22:00 -
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If mag could handle 256 players on a 1km map, CCP should be at least be able to handle half of that and not have these horrid server connection issues.
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:58:00 -
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the lag is getting way too out of hand. agreed. +1. i bet i'd be in the top 100 of the month for something if the lag didnt get so hectic at times.
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Gallente Federation Patriot
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
798
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Posted - 2014.03.04 08:05:00 -
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So rather than have the lag fixed by reducing my GFX settings, this has only made the problem worse. Gallente Research facility Domination and Skirmish have both been tested today by me and they both suffer from terribly bad lag at about 25% MCC Shield damage for either team. This only gets worse as time goes on. This is not a graphics issue, internet, connection issue from my end nor is it an issue caused by anything but a completely FAIL map.
FIX IT OR REMOVE IT
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