Why do you think ML ran with STB to TSO? They couldn't keep farming ISK and pay for all those ringers.

See, here's the thing. DDB isn't bad. Just like Capital LLC, etc aren't bad either.

But when you put them up against who are in a group of 2-3 corps, of course they aren't going to fair well.

Its boiled down to NF, AE & FA fighting each other, even for others' districts.

Plus, there's corps that aren't even in PC that are PC capable to, so long as the other team doesn't just pull in a ringer crew. Its just comes down to 3 corps, who can buy them, and which of those 2 out of 3 can best one another on that given day.

Last time i played NF, I went toe-to-toe with them, especially difficult when it pretty much was 16 v 1 because the corp I was ringing for didn't belong playing the game; let alone PC. But they obviously should have bought FA or AE to try for them. But lets say it was a smaller corp, like Pradox. Pradox's A-team is good... not NF A-team good(NF is nothing but -team -_-) but they are good. They can fight anyone and have a fair shot, until some one decides to b*tch out and have one of the big 3 fight their battles for them, thus forcing Pradox to hire a big 3 too...

How many times have FA and AE faced one another on behalf of others' districts??

I made a vow to myself that I would never agree with you. Actually I didn't, so yeah.

???

One of these days I'm going to have to smack you fake forum warriors around.

What are you going to use? Shadow alt Jutsu?

I seem to remember having ML call us in for fights. A lot....

Why do you think ML ran with STB to TSO? They couldn't keep farming ISK and pay for all those ringers.

Yup we sure did and probably will still use ringers when we don't have enough guys x'ing up for pc. Also, it's kinda f*cked to call in ringers then say "hey sorry about that but, near the last 5 min before the warbarge some dudes decided they wanted in so, I guess we don't need you and just wasted your time for nothing".

However, I can't remember claiming ML didn't use ringers, nor am I hate bashing Pradox for using ringers. What I did do was call chucky Mc Diarrhea on his BS statement about Pradox. The rare times I have fought them (as in 13 or more on thier team) it was close match and very fun. But, I disagree with him saying "they only bring in "big 3" ringers when the other side does". As a point of fact, we did have to call FA in because they kept bringing in "big 3" ringers.



A pity you think that, but our "farming" isn't anywhere as good as the PFC ISK farming.. no, not the district holders farming isk the other ones.

A pity you think that, but our "farming" isn't anywhere as good as the PFC ISK farming.. no, not the district holders farming isk the other ones.

You're moving offley close to the deep end there bud. Maybe you should stop, before you say something really stupid

Let's see....

On form of farming involves abusing broken mechanics to stay irrelevant. *Cough*

The other form of farming is working with the community to set up an official form of governmental body for PFC to regulate and control. Allowing a more flexible PFC control and giving vet corps a reason to want to help PFC.


You're right, ML's farming does suck compared to ours. Lol

My, my, defencive much? does it irk you that people really learned the value of district locking from TP during the FEC war? or just that it has recently become a major fotm?

A pity you think that, but our "farming" isn't anywhere as good as the PFC ISK farming.. no, not the district holders farming isk the other ones.

Finding players that are good enough to take on bada** corps is hard to do, considering they can just join said corp instead of trying to see a vision down the road.
You had a history in this game, and have made connections, so you were able to pick up good players because of it.

I don't know anyone in your corp that is an "unknown" prior to joining. Even your 'lesser' players I knew of. Perhaps, because I play really close attention to things like that in this game.

Here's an honest question. Because I applied to FA back in the day, you rejected my app (no, not upset about it in the slightest, especially since it was like 3 months ago)
Was my app rejected because of my stats? Was it rejected because I didn't have a referral, or some people told you I wasn't good enough? Was it rejected because I was 'unknown' to you?

I know when I look at apps, the first thing I do is ask other directors "who is this player"? Because reputation matters to me. Since I remember lots of names in this game and can categorize them as good or bad, I base a lot of recruiting decisions on it.
Names trigger in my brain, and if a name doesn't trigger, then I equate that they must not be that good.

A corp like Quebec United seems to be on the rise, and maybe we'll see them in MH someday, but I don't know a single one of those guys. I can't name one person from that corp so I would never give them a chance probably. Perhaps I rejected some of them in the past, what a terrible mistake that looks like I did.

Reputation is the best way to build a corp, because people don't like taking chances. This leaves small corps that have potential at a glass ceiling, because A-Team clutch crushers don't want to join a "maybe' corp, they want to be in a 'happening' corp.

From my perspective the state of PC can be more frustrating for individual players than corps much less alliances.

In my limited experience it normally does come down to a relatively small pool of players that control PC. If you are in a smaller corp or smaller alliance you can probably field a 16 person team but the talent disparity can be prohibitive which generates the market for ringers. I think it's a great thing there is a market for this service since it's a key component of building Dust in New Eden.

One of the trickle down effects of few corps being involved and few actually using their own members is that it's tough to get consistent PC experience for individuals...playing with and against varsity players and the tactics involved are a big factor in simply getting better as an individual. The more ringers you use the less you develop your own team...again not evil but something few corps consider.

For most of you involved in this discussion you are part of the relatively small pool of players. There are a lot of folks dotted across the numerous small to mid-size corps that want more competitive play and/or working actively to up their game and it's difficult to get on the field.

I like the difficult ladder; you have to want to be involved and develop your game. That said, not a lot of opportunities out there at the moment.

Also, it's kinda f*cked to call in ringers then say "hey sorry about that but, near the last 5 min before the warbarge some dudes decided they wanted in so, I guess we don't need you and just wasted your time for nothing".

Agreed, hopefully when changes are made to PC in the future it will allow a larger pool of players to be involved without being instantly wiped out of PC by the small number of corps that can hold the majority of MH.

Let's see....

One form of farming involves abusing broken mechanics to stay irrelevant. *Cough*

The other form of farming is working with the community to set up an official form of governmental body for PFC to regulate and control. Allowing a more flexible PFC control and giving vet corps a reason to want to help PFC.


You're right, ML's farming does suck compared to ours. Lol

Do you want a cookie for waiting for 15 minutes. How much is your video game time worth?That is enough time to play 1 Domination... we will say you are halfway decent so we will pay you 350k for waiting 15 minutes to help an alliance member. An alliance member who has saved your districts countless times and been on standby with full 15 man crews just for you to message over and say... "the person we are fighting didn't bring ringers so we are good. We don't need you this time"


Everyone makes sacrifices

From my perspective the state of PC can be more frustrating for individual players than corps much less alliances.

In my limited experience it normally does come down to a relatively small pool of players that control PC. If you are in a smaller corp or smaller alliance you can probably field a 16 person team but the talent disparity can be prohibitive which generates the market for ringers. I think it's a great thing there is a market for this service since it's a key component of building Dust in New Eden.

One of the trickle down effects of few corps being involved and few actually using their own members is that it's tough to get consistent PC experience for individuals...playing with and against varsity players and the tactics involved are a big factor in simply getting better as an individual. The more ringers you use the less you develop your own team...again not evil but something few corps consider.

For most of you involved in this discussion you are part of the relatively small pool of players. There are a lot of folks dotted across the numerous small to mid-size corps that want more competitive play and/or working actively to up their game and it's difficult to get on the field.

I like the difficult ladder; you have to want to be involved and develop your game. That said, not a lot of opportunities out there at the moment.

So, PC comes down ta whoz ass can loot tha mo' betta ringer crew. 3 ef'n crews run tha show up in MH. We all know whoz ass they are.
I KNOW every last muthafuckin alliizzle has a Strong Arm corp up in it, n' it seems they do most of tha fightin on behalf of they brethren. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch.


All alliances is built round one supa corp it seems. This has pimped a narrow field fo' MH.
Yo ass have tha corps.alliances dat is so phat at what tha **** they do it just down inexplicably ridiculous.
Yo ass have tha corps dat is phat up in they own right yo, but when compared ta tha big-ass 3, it seems they just suck.

This creates mercs jumpin ta one of the Big 3.
So, how tha **** be a freshly smoked up corp supposed ta form from scratch n' reach tha endgame, biatch? How tha **** do decent playas every last muthafuckin git a cold-ass lil chizzle ta git tha **** into tha Big 3 if tha bar is blowin tha **** up; when if they was given a cold-ass lil chizzle up in one of tha supa corps/alliances, they would no diggity improve just be association. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch.

If a cold-ass lil corp starts from tha ground up, like nuff on PFC right now have, they still aint NEVER gonna bust tha **** into MH cuz anoyone they put heat on will just call upon one of tha Big 3 ta rid em.

This may git me tha **** into bangin' gin n juice yo, but its tha dopest example I can be thinkin of.

When I was up in 0.H, we beat down a DDB district. 2 matches, we took all but 90 clones from em. They had like almost 500 ta begin with. They was just gettin manhandled. Y'all KNOW dat ****, muthafucka! Now, DDB aint a wack corp yo, but against what tha **** 0.H was employin thangs just didn't line up fo' em. 0.H had tha mo' betta crews goin tha **** into dem matches. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. So, when it came time fo' tha flip... guess whoz ass shows up n' puts a stop ta 0.H up in a hurry....

A corp like Quebec United seems to be on the rise, and maybe we'll see them in MH someday, but I don't know a single one of those guys. I can't name one person from that corp so I would never give them a chance probably. Perhaps I rejected some of them in the past, what a terrible mistake that looks like I did.

Reputation is the best way to build a corp, because people don't like taking chances. This leaves small corps that have potential at a glass ceiling, because A-Team clutch crushers don't want to join a "maybe' corp, they want to be in a 'happening' corp.

and as for OSG people playing with NF.


our philosophy has changed, well, MINE at least.

I used to be the poster child for things being my CORP, and when needed, we had alliance.

now we have a channel, you can only get in from kane inviting you, and you are frisked, patted down, and your wife and kids are placed under 24 hour surveillance upon you entering.

this channel is our 'corp'

that's it.

when others play matches with us, they are removed right after, and brought back in when used again etc etc.

in those cases we just park an unmarked car outside their house for a spell, sometimes taking your kids to Chuck E Cheese while you are in match, cause we 'care'