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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 990	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:13:00 - [1] - Quote I was playing a couple matches today, and noticed a few things about it. 1. It affects armor about 50% more than it affects shield 2. The combat rifle is notorious for creating this effect-almost every time it happened it was a combat rifle shooting me, though other rifles cause it too, the combat rifle causes it the most 3. After being hit, you are reduced to 50% speed, and cannot jump beyond the jump height of a plate stacked heavy 4. I use kin cats, so it may have something to do with those 5. Anyone can answer, not just CCP. If you know something i don't, please enlighten me about this gameplay mechanic/bug Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 992	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:23:00 - [2] - Quote anyone know? Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
mollerz Minja Scouts 2462	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:27:00 - [3] - Quote As someone who rolls almost always in a ADV minja, I get freeze framed for people all the time. It's wonderful that I am running full speed and get stopped for the convenience of the enemy so he can finish me off. I mean, I'm way too OP otherwise. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 992	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:29:00 - [4] - Quote mollerz wrote: As someone who rolls almost always in a ADV minja, I get freeze framed for people all the time. It's wonderful that I am running full speed and get stopped for the convenience of the enemy so he can finish me off. I mean, I'm way too OP otherwise. Yeah i run minja exclusively, and its a hard knock life for us getting stopped by the game for another players +50 Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5878	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:55:00 - [5] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: anyone know? I know everything. Never forget More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1789	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:58:00 - [6] - Quote 1.7 patch notes added "weapon impulse" to all bullet hits. That's what you're experiencing. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1277	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:58:00 - [7] - Quote My personal hypothesis is that it's intended, either to cover up shoddy hit detection or to appease scrubs who would think that shoddy hit detection was to blame for their inaccuracy. One of the two, more likely the first one. I have no concrete data to back this up.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4426	Posted - 2014.02.28 05:18:00 - [8] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: 1.7 patch notes added "weapon impulse" to all bullet hits. That's what you're experiencing. Well I don't like it. It is also way to high on the HMG; my Scout runs slower than a walking heavy after getting hit with just one shot. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1364	Posted - 2014.02.28 06:10:00 - [9] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: 1.7 patch notes added "weapon impulse" to all bullet hits. That's what you're experiencing. This, but I'm betting it's a bug and they couldn't fix it so they worked it into the game with a stupid explanation. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 549	Posted - 2014.02.28 06:13:00 - [10] - Quote Its actualy been in game for a long time, It was implimented back when there was terible hit detection to counter people strafign trough wals of bullets. Slowing them down and increasing the chance of hits registering. Now its just been labled a feature to represent realism. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.

Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 115	Posted - 2014.02.28 06:15:00 - [11] - Quote I seriously doubt it was intended...even made a thread about it a while back. Sometimes it happens without even being hit by anything. Level 5 proficiency in throat punching
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 418	Posted - 2014.02.28 07:39:00 - [12] - Quote Admonishment wrote: I seriously doubt it was intended...even made a thread about it a while back. Sometimes it happens without even being hit by anything. This. It happens when i'm shot in the back or side too. It makes it impossible to escape ANY engagements. Only users lose drugs. Time wounds all heels.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6889	Posted - 2014.02.28 07:56:00 - [13] - Quote The more bullets you are hit with, the stronger the effect. Which is why combat rifle and HMG are kings in that regard. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4719	Posted - 2014.02.28 10:00:00 - [14] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: 1.7 patch notes added "weapon impulse" to all bullet hits. That's what you're experiencing. If I remember correctly wasn't that how the rounds effect dead bodies? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1001	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:24:00 - [15] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: My personal hypothesis is that it's intended, either to cover up shoddy hit detection or to appease scrubs who would think that shoddy hit detection was to blame for their inaccuracy. One of the two, more likely the first one. I have no concrete data to back this up. its a direct nerf to my minja Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1001	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:26:00 - [16] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The more bullets you are hit with, the stronger the effect. Which is why combat rifle and HMG are kings in that regard. That would explain itGÇª.it just seems too powerful a nerf to people who would try to stack kin cats to get away from bad situations, like 3 heavies with CR's, HMG's and a few logi's with RR's Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Ulme Mees Rautaleijona Top Men. 128	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:38:00 - [17] - Quote It's annoying as hell, I try to fight anything with a rifle or hmg with my MD, once I get hit I am almost as good as dead cos of the slowdown..... Fear is a disease!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 883	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:45:00 - [18] - Quote Just to correct others (I too thought this wrongly before) weapon impulse is just the rag doll effects. This 'slow down' thing has been around for quite some time. I think it was an intended mechanic for back when hit detection was bad. I agree its horrible for all, especially scouts and I also certainly thing it should be removed from the game. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6896	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:08:00 - [19] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Just to correct others (I too thought this wrongly before) weapon impulse is just the rag doll effects. This 'slow down' thing has been around for quite some time. I think it was an intended mechanic for back when hit detection was bad. I agree its horrible for all, especially scouts and I also certainly think it should be removed from the game. It may have existed, but never to this extent. It definitely has become stronger. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 886	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:12:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Just to correct others (I too thought this wrongly before) weapon impulse is just the rag doll effects. This 'slow down' thing has been around for quite some time. I think it was an intended mechanic for back when hit detection was bad. I agree its horrible for all, especially scouts and I also certainly think it should be removed from the game. It may have existed, but never to this extent. It definitely has become stronger. Yea I thought that too. I don't know when it got so noticeable but it wasn't always that way. Maybe it was because before the AA / hit detection changes - getting bullets on target was more difficult and thus it was only marginally slowing people down. It has been very noticeable these past few months and I would be very happy if CCP could comment on this, even more happy if they removed this feature. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!

Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4658	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:15:00 - [21] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I was playing a couple matches today, and noticed a few things about it. 1. It affects armor about 50% more than it affects shield 2. The combat rifle is notorious for creating this effect-almost every time it happened it was a combat rifle shooting me, though other rifles cause it too, the combat rifle causes it the most 3. After being hit, you are reduced to 50% speed, and cannot jump beyond the jump height of a plate stacked heavy 4. I use kin cats, so it may have something to do with those 5. Anyone can answer, not just CCP. If you know something i don't, please enlighten me about this gameplay mechanic/bug That is indeed a feature, and one of the least needed ones I've seen so far. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2062	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:30:00 - [22] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: 1.7 patch notes added "weapon impulse" to all bullet hits. That's what you're experiencing. Well I don't like it. It is also way to high on the HMG; my Scout runs slower than a walking heavy after getting hit with just one shot. Really? And here I thought I just wasn't fast enough "But we have been blessed"
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1690	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:46:00 - [23] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Its actualy been in game for a long time, It was implimented back when there was terible hit detection to counter people strafign trough wals of bullets. Slowing them down and increasing the chance of hits registering. Now its just been labled a feature to represent realism. ^ This. It's actually something the beta testers had a fairly big conversation about. The entire contents of that conversation were ignored by CCP and they arbitrarily imposed the slowdown mechanic we have now. I remember when i first down loaded the build and eagerly tried it out to see what the new mechanics would be like....i was overwhelmed, tbh, by the cheesiness of it all. And by regret. In the old forums, CCP definitely heard about it, but we never heard back from CCP. A lot of peeps were eilling to live with it for exactly the reasons Beck mentions - as a stinky, cheesy counterbalance to the stinky, cheesy hit detection. Hit detection is better(or just covered up with AA?) but we still are saddled with the slowdown mechanics, which bears a lot of responsibility for how clunky and slow the gameplay feels. If Rouge has and sense at all this will be gone in 1.8. P.S. The 'Weapon Impulse' mechanic only applies to merc's ragdolls after they'e incapacitated - that's why we get that cool physics when we finish off downed mercs - best effects from a flaylok, imo ;) I support SP rollover.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2667	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:59:00 - [24] - Quote I posted in the Bug forum about this a while back. [Bug] Sprinting at Crouched Speeds when under fire Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2667	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:01:00 - [25] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: 1.7 patch notes added "weapon impulse" to all bullet hits. That's what you're experiencing. I was getting it in 1.6 on my Speed fit Heavy. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2667	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:05:00 - [26] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Awry Barux wrote: My personal hypothesis is that it's intended, either to cover up shoddy hit detection or to appease scrubs who would think that shoddy hit detection was to blame for their inaccuracy. One of the two, more likely the first one. I have no concrete data to back this up. its a direct nerf to my minja And ironically it is also a direct nerf to my Speed Heavy. Do you realize how slow a Heavy moves at 50% walking speed? Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2667	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:11:00 - [27] - Quote This is by far the most frustrating aspect of the game for me right now. Far more frustrating than dealing with tanks or any of the other issues. This is the one thing that makes me want to hurl my controller through my TV screen! Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 235	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:27:00 - [28] - Quote I noticed it as a significant effect after 1.7 and it really bugs me. I'm not a fast suit to begin with, and rail rifles hitting me from 80m or more away and slowing me to a crawl is a really ****** effect. I don't see what it adds to the game, but I can see what it takes away. Hope it gets addressed at some point. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1006	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:13:00 - [29] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Awry Barux wrote: My personal hypothesis is that it's intended, either to cover up shoddy hit detection or to appease scrubs who would think that shoddy hit detection was to blame for their inaccuracy. One of the two, more likely the first one. I have no concrete data to back this up. its a direct nerf to my minja And ironically it is also a direct nerf to my Speed Heavy. Do you realize how slow a Heavy moves at 50% walking speed? Even more so for a ninja, whose EHP is largely counted in not getting hit, while a heavy has shield and armor to make up most of their EHP Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2951	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:34:00 - [30] - Quote It's really frustrating when the rounds are pounding your back and acting like a tractor beam rather than a push. It completely hoses speed tanking and induces rage. I feel the hand of CCP holding me in place to be killed and it makes me want to slap them in the face.

Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 291	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:49:00 - [31] - Quote I think it came in with whatever patch gave the shields a glassy sound when hit - cant remember, but it's not new, I remember people discussing it here when whatever patch dropped. It definitely wasn't always in, it was introduced intentionally and mentioned in patch notes. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1008	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:41:00 - [32] - Quote I think a CCP response on this subject would be nice *hint hint Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!


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