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Wilson Ribeiro
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:07:00 -
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How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:09:00 -
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Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Wilson Ribeiro
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:13:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space.
And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right? |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:14:00 -
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Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? It depend on the person.
The Amarrian royal families have religious beliefs about cloning, believe that their flesh it scared and duplication and being housed in cloned flesh is desecrating that flesh.
Some mortals take this to heart, especially Holders and minor noblemen. Some serfs do as well due to their own more rural system of beliefs and superstitions.
As for most it remains a core piece of medical, and now, military piece of technology.
Personally I was inclined to believe that cloning was a desecration of the flesh until my Palatinus and friend explained to me that each life is as a reaffirmation of my Faith, my purpose, and my very spirit to God.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:15:00 -
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Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space. And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right?
That depends on ones interpretation of the Scriptures. I had resolved to not be allowed to enter God's promised land....but now I am not so sure.
Oh and MAC we were the first space faring empire you clueless sod.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:16:00 -
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What i know its basicaly similar to japanese shinto, but with that difference they are purely monoteistic (what mean no gods/souls/kami, but made from god). Ergo, this is by the god for us do not mess with it.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:16:00 -
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Any kind of source on Amarr religion and cloning? I would be interested to read up on it.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:19:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Any kind of source on Amarr religion and cloning? I would be interested to read up on it.
Search the Sacred Flesh on EVElopedia. Its the basic Amarr take on cloning, its not abhorred, but it has a significance in our culture nonetheless.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
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Wilson Ribeiro
DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space. And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right? That depends on ones interpretation of the Scriptures. I had resolved to not be allowed to enter God's promised land....but now I am not so sure. Oh and MAC we were the first space faring empire you clueless sod.
So maybe in the end of the days we are aloud to enter Paradise in our mortal forms? |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:22:00 -
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Wilson Ribeiro wrote:True Adamance wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space. And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right? That depends on ones interpretation of the Scriptures. I had resolved to not be allowed to enter God's promised land....but now I am not so sure. Oh and MAC we were the first space faring empire you clueless sod. So maybe in the end of the days we are aloud to enter Paradise in our mortal forms.?
Perhaps but we could still die before such a time if there were no clones/ clone units we had access to.
For the most part we are as mortal as the rest of humanity, we just get to cheat death on a regular basis. I suppose if we are dutiful, pious, and noble as all Amarr should be then we may well be granted entrance into Heaven.
God does love all of His children, this we know.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
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Wilson Ribeiro
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: God does love all of His children, this we know.
Except the Gallente **** the Gallente |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space. And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right? That depends on ones interpretation of the Scriptures. I had resolved to not be allowed to enter God's promised land....but now I am not so sure. Oh and MAC we were the first space faring empire you clueless sod.
I didn't say we weren't, just saying if the science conflicted with the religion would we have pursued it?
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:24:00 -
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Wilson Ribeiro wrote:True Adamance wrote: God does love all of His children, this we know.
Except the Gallente **** the Gallente
I can get behind that. Those Ugly sods.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:25:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:True Adamance wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space. And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right? That depends on ones interpretation of the Scriptures. I had resolved to not be allowed to enter God's promised land....but now I am not so sure. Oh and MAC we were the first space faring empire you clueless sod. I didn't say we weren't, just saying if the science conflicted with the religion would we have pursued it? The two aren't mutually exclusive. Scientific genius and providence, a God explained in his divinity through Scientific reason.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:26:00 -
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Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? Let's ask the Amarr Empress, Jamyl Sarum
GÇ£The Empire does not hate these people because they have found themselves turned from God's light. We have never hated those who have fallen. Instead, we embrace those who have tumbled to the darkest depths and lift them up. It is a long process, but one the Empire is willing to undertake to save these poor souls from those who would so callously discard them.GÇ¥ - Empress Jamyl
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:27:00 -
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Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space. And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right?
From your other thread,
Aero Yassavi wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Templar Twelve wrote: "Which test reveals more of the soul, the test that a man will take to prove his faith, or the test that finds the man who believed his faith already proven? If you know this answer, then you also know which of these challenges bear the greatest penalty for failure. The gates of paradise will open for you one time only; woe to the soul who dares to knock twice." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 5:14
We took the greatest sacrifice of all. Paradise is forever lost for those that chose to serve. It's a burden that will never go. This is simply not true. The people of New Eden may call us immortals, but these implants don't make us immortal. What happens when there is no clone to transfer to? What happens when the physical world as we know it comes to an end? We are very much mortal, implants and all, and there will come a day when we will not have our consciousness transferred and die like everyone else. And when that day comes the only way to achieve immortality will be through God.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:True Adamance wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its a gift from god they were given the technology. Otherwise they would never have gone to space. And I imagine people that choose to cloned take it as a great sacrifice because they cannot enter paradise, am I right? That depends on ones interpretation of the Scriptures. I had resolved to not be allowed to enter God's promised land....but now I am not so sure. Oh and MAC we were the first space faring empire you clueless sod. So maybe in the end of the days we are aloud to enter Paradise in our mortal forms.? Perhaps but we could still die before such a time if there were no clones/ clone units we had access to. For the most part we are as mortal as the rest of humanity, we just get to cheat death on a regular basis. I suppose if we are dutiful, pious, and noble as all Amarr should be then we may well be granted entrance into Heaven. God does love all of His children, this we know. Exactly. The people like to nickname us "immortals" but everything about us is still very much apart of the physical world, even our implants, and it is still possible for us to die and not come back.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:36:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? Let's ask the Amarr Empress, Jamyl SarumGÇ£The Empire does not hate these people because they have found themselves turned from God's light. We have never hated those who have fallen. Instead, we embrace those who have tumbled to the darkest depths and lift them up. It is a long process, but one the Empire is willing to undertake to save these poor souls from those who would so callously discard them.GÇ¥ - Empress Jamyl
Your Empress have really good grown tongue.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:45:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? Let's ask the Amarr Empress, Jamyl SarumGÇ£The Empire does not hate these people because they have found themselves turned from God's light. We have never hated those who have fallen. Instead, we embrace those who have tumbled to the darkest depths and lift them up. It is a long process, but one the Empire is willing to undertake to save these poor souls from those who would so callously discard them.GÇ¥ - Empress Jamyl Your Empress have really good grown tongue.
Watch yours filth or I shall personally remove it from your head.
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:54:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? Let's ask the Amarr Empress, Jamyl SarumGÇ£The Empire does not hate these people because they have found themselves turned from God's light. We have never hated those who have fallen. Instead, we embrace those who have tumbled to the darkest depths and lift them up. It is a long process, but one the Empire is willing to undertake to save these poor souls from those who would so callously discard them.GÇ¥ - Empress Jamyl Your Empress have really good grown tongue. Watch yours filth or I shall personally remove it from your head.
It was rhetorical figure of speech, where admire her good orator skill. I know now why she must talk for people like you.
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:57:00 -
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Unless you now consider the Jove to be gods the Immortal technology that made us and the Capsuleer's is a purely man made creation. |
Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:59:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? Let's ask the Amarr Empress, Jamyl SarumGÇ£The Empire does not hate these people because they have found themselves turned from God's light. We have never hated those who have fallen. Instead, we embrace those who have tumbled to the darkest depths and lift them up. It is a long process, but one the Empire is willing to undertake to save these poor souls from those who would so callously discard them.GÇ¥ - Empress Jamyl Your Empress have really good grown tongue. Watch yours filth or I shall personally remove it from your head. It was rhetorical figure of speech, where admire her good orator skill. I know now why she must talk for people like you. Perhaps you should check your own grammar before making such snide remarks.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:59:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Unless you now consider the Jove to be gods the Immortal technology that made us and the Capsuleer's is a purely man made creation.
The Jove are but men, even they are subject to God's will.
And now they are dead, if not nearing extinction at the hand of New Eden's greatest threat. The Nation.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:01:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? Let's ask the Amarr Empress, Jamyl SarumGÇ£The Empire does not hate these people because they have found themselves turned from God's light. We have never hated those who have fallen. Instead, we embrace those who have tumbled to the darkest depths and lift them up. It is a long process, but one the Empire is willing to undertake to save these poor souls from those who would so callously discard them.GÇ¥ - Empress Jamyl Your Empress have really good grown tongue. Watch yours filth or I shall personally remove it from your head. It was rhetorical figure of speech, where admire her good orator skill. I know now why she must talk for people like you.
You would be a fool assume this is the best I can manage. I graduated from one of Sarum Prime's many great Imperial Colleges with my degree's in Theological Discourse and Amarrian Cultural Studies, of the many things I have studied the root of Ammarish is one of my many fascinations.
However you must remember I only speak Amarrish, or Ammarad, my personal translation software must be in need of a debug.
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:02:00 -
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Perhaps you should check your own grammar before making such snide remarks.
Now you are grammar n-a-z-i, like really boyo, not cool. ROLE playing is fun, you just ruin whole idea now. btw no sarkasm was in it before.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:04:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Perhaps you should check your own grammar before making such snide remarks.
Now you are grammar n-a-z-i, like really boyo, not cool. ROLE playing is fun, you just ruin whole idea now. btw no sarkasm was in it before.
((Grammar ****-ing is a noble art that tries to teach the ignorant and the lazy to speak, and write properly. We all err, surely that is true of us all, but there is no excuse of laziness.))
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:07:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Perhaps you should check your own grammar before making such snide remarks.
Now you are grammar n-a-z-i, like really boyo, not cool. ROLE playing is fun, you just ruin whole idea now. btw no sarkasm was in it before.
Saw "grammar ****" coming a mile away Well actually I was expecting "grammar police" but whatever So pretty much whenever someone says something against you, you then must go out and say something radical about them I'll be honest, I don't give a darn if you choose to use grammar or proper spelling But if you make an insult on the Amarr then I will call you out Also I'm not going to role play in General Discussion, thus everything I say in GD is OOC P.S. I really like smiley faces
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Perhaps you should check your own grammar before making such snide remarks.
Now you are grammar n-a-z-i, like really boyo, not cool. ROLE playing is fun, you just ruin whole idea now. btw no sarkasm was in it before.
((Grammar ****-ing is a noble art that tries to teach the ignorant and the lazy to speak, and write properly. We all err, surely that is true of us all, but there is no excuse of laziness.))
Oki im out english is not my first lang, but i tried much. No more roleplay for me here.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:09:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Perhaps you should check your own grammar before making such snide remarks.
Now you are grammar n-a-z-i, like really boyo, not cool. ROLE playing is fun, you just ruin whole idea now. btw no sarkasm was in it before.
((Grammar ****-ing is a noble art that tries to teach the ignorant and the lazy to speak, and write properly. We all err, surely that is true of us all, but there is no excuse of laziness.)) Oki im out english is not my first lang, but i tried much. No more roleplay for me here. This thread was asking about a lore question, this thread never was actual role playing
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:09:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Perhaps you should check your own grammar before making such snide remarks.
Now you are grammar n-a-z-i, like really boyo, not cool. ROLE playing is fun, you just ruin whole idea now. btw no sarkasm was in it before.
((Grammar ****-ing is a noble art that tries to teach the ignorant and the lazy to speak, and write properly. We all err, surely that is true of us all, but there is no excuse of laziness.)) Oki im out english is not my first lang, but i tried much. No more roleplay for me here.
((Ah understandable now, however correction and guidance is never a bad thing. Sorry about that. BACK TO THE RP....but still rag on my Empress I will tear you a new one.))
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:22:00 -
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Sorry, this was really too tough for me, its fine but i'll take a break from RP for some time.
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:25:00 -
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Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning?
Some are simply willing to bear this curse for the many
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:28:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Wilson Ribeiro wrote:How does a religious people such as Amarr deals with cloning? Some are simply willing to bear this curse for the many
Nobly said Imud Hubrau
A manu dei e tet rimon
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:34:00 -
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Heres a better lore question, if clones respawn and keep their knowledge upon death, wouldn't it be better to non-lethally incapacitate and imprison them?
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:36:00 -
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Hynox Xitio wrote:Heres a better lore question, if clones respawn and keep their knowledge upon death, wouldn't it be better to non-lethally incapacitate and imprison them?
If possible yes. Though I imagine part of a clone soldiers basic training covers how to commit suicide upon capture, that or manually switching consciousness's.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:36:00 -
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Personally I view it as my own burden to bear, a sacrifice I would make to serve the greater glory of God and the Empire. Secretly I hope it does not truly lock me out of paradise, but that is not for me to decide.
Now, my grandfather on the other hand, he was not quite so accepting of a member of a holder family taking this path. But, I am (was? He is still pretty angry) 5th in line of succession anyway...
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