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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 21:34:00 -
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The reason CCP doesn't want to do idea 1 is because they don't want to create situations where you can't play with your friends, but that is the whole point of having Public Contracts and Planetary Conquest.
Second idea sounds good as well.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 21:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So I have to leave FA to do FW?  Nope. -1.
a) Convince FA to enroll in preferred racial militia
b) FA enrolls in another militia and you can get your loyalty goods from the player market
c) FA enrolls in another militia so you choose to leave for a corp that is enrolled in preferred racial militia
d) FA enrolls in another militia, so you join a different corp to participate in your preferred racial militia but can still be dragged into FA's PC matches and still receive payments from FA.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 21:46:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Open market needs to be rolled out first so if you use Amarr gear but your corp fights for caldari you can sell the caldari gear and buy Amarr. That is how EVE works.
Right now it will be silly to say a 100-500 Member corp you will all fight for this faction which gives rewards you most likely have no need for, because not everyone in the corp will use caldari items if you fight for caldari.
I use to fight for Gallente in EVE but i used Amarr spaceships so i sold my gallente FW items on the market and bought amarr stuff.
Absolutely
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:So basically if someone fights for the Minmatar, but the corp fights for a different faction the person's only options would be to betray their faction, or leave their corporation?
I have a better idea.
How about we implement XANDER's idea instead. That way you aren't forced to leave the corp or betray your faction, but actually have an incentive to fight with your corporation's faction.
And no, "because that's how it is in EVE" is not a valid argument. This is a First Person Shooter, while EVE Online is a Space-Simulator MMO. Because of them belonging to different genres, you cannot expect every mechanic you see in EVE to work DUST side.
Furthermore, what would be the point? This offers no statistical advantage, and would only serve to force people to either leave their corporation, or betray their faction.
Additionally, "Because EVE" won't fly when your trying to convince people to do something, especially something that would put most players at an incredible disadvantage, while only serving to benefit a few people.
TL:DR? No.
You aren't thinking this through very much. There are far more options than betray your faction or betray your corporation. If for instance you want to fight Gallente FW for their gear but your corp does Caldari FW, you can simply play Caldari FW with your corp and see the Gallente goods you acquire through LP in exchange for ISK that you can use to purchase the Caldari gear you want. Yes this assumes an open player market which should come eventually.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:22:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Personally I'm a mercanry, I'll fight for who pays me the best.
Thats meant to be the distinction between us and the gel-breathers, we don't have loyalty to anything but the next paycheck.
No offence but -1, I want to be mercanry, I would prefer bigger penalties for fighting on opposing sides sure, but not like this.
Don't all factions pay you the same, though?
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Personally I'm a mercanry, I'll fight for who pays me the best.
Thats meant to be the distinction between us and the gel-breathers, we don't have loyalty to anything but the next paycheck.
No offence but -1, I want to be mercanry, I would prefer bigger penalties for fighting on opposing sides sure, but not like this. You have public matches to be a mercenary in. Or PC. Leave FW to the loyalists. You mean put all the loyalists in the same corp, because individuality and choice be damned. 
Same militia (because you are fighting for the same thing as everyone else who selects to fight for that same faction as you). There will still be a wide array of different corporations.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:31:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Personally I'm a mercanry, I'll fight for who pays me the best.
Thats meant to be the distinction between us and the gel-breathers, we don't have loyalty to anything but the next paycheck.
No offence but -1, I want to be mercanry, I would prefer bigger penalties for fighting on opposing sides sure, but not like this. You have public matches to be a mercenary in. Or PC. Leave FW to the loyalists. Uh-huh. And watch it stagnate even further and die because there aren't enough of you.
There are plenty of people who would choose to specifically fight for one faction in FW and no others (barring the inconvenience of switching militias). You don't have to be some RP guy apart of an RP corp.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:39:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So I have to leave FA to do FW? Nope. -1. Or FA could enroll in a militia - sorry bro, but that's how it works in EVE, all or nothing. We could do something like this when we have more to do than just Public Contracts, FW or PC. At the current point it would basically force every Corp to enroll in FW.
Or play Pubs and PC, no one is forcing anyone to play FW.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:52:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:
We could do something like this when we have more to do than just Public Contracts, FW or PC. At the current point it would basically force every Corp to enroll in FW.
Or play Pubs and PC, no one is forcing anyone to play FW. It seems a little bit radical to not play one of 3 modes we have available, especially considering not many people play PC. We don't have enough to do currently. Especially considering that this would lock people out from the only mode that is connected to Eve Online and is available to everybody. This wouldn't be good for new players. They might start the game, join a corp somebody recommended them and then they want to do FW only to hear "Sorry. We're not doing this." Later, when we have more game modes and so on it could be a nice idea. But currently not so much. It also seems a bit radical that you would force everyone in Dust 514 to be mercenaries. What does FW offer you that the other modes don't? It is still just your basic skirmish at the end of the day. Let FW be a place to be loyalists and Pubs/PC a place to be mercenaries (and of course you can be both!)
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:
I'm sure if this were implemented then several "FW Only" corps would crop up for the four factions as there are in EVE.
Say you join a corp and later you decide you want to do Min FW, you inquire to the corp and they say we aren't interested in FW - I'm sure there would be a Min FW corp to join.
So if someone wants to fight for a faction other than what their corporation is fighting for, they have to scrap everything in their corp and join a "FW Only" corp? In what remote world does that sound plausible?
You don't have to join a "FW Only" corp, you'd have to join a corp that is aligned with the proper militia in FW. That corp can still do PC and everything else. You really shouldn't be fighting for a side in FW that your whole corporation isn't, it just doesn't make sense. If you want to fight for say Gallente to get the Gallente loyalty items but your corporation is aligned with Caldari, then fight for Caldari with your corp, sell the Caldari loyalty items, and buy the Gallente loyalty items. If you want to fight for Gallente because you like them in lore or for whatever reason then you'd already be in a corporation that is aligned for Gallente in this example.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:06:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:
I'm sure if this were implemented then several "FW Only" corps would crop up for the four factions as there are in EVE.
Say you join a corp and later you decide you want to do Min FW, you inquire to the corp and they say we aren't interested in FW - I'm sure there would be a Min FW corp to join.
So if someone wants to fight for a faction other than what their corporation is fighting for, they have to scrap everything in their corp and join a "FW Only" corp? In what remote world does that sound plausible? You don't have to join a "FW Only" corp, you'd have to join a corp that is aligned with the proper militia in FW. That corp can still do PC and everything else. You really shouldn't be fighting for a side in FW that your whole corporation isn't, it just doesn't make sense. If you want to fight for say Gallente to get the Gallente loyalty items but your corporation is aligned with Caldari, then fight for Caldari with your corp, sell the Caldari loyalty items, and buy the Gallente loyalty items. If you want to fight for Gallente because you like them in lore or for whatever reason then you'd already be in a corporation that is aligned for Gallente in this example.
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