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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:33:00 -
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So, in 1.6 hit detection was fixed.
TTK turned awfully fast, and the whine machines slowly went into full motion, peaking in 1.7.
People blamed it on improved hit detection, but something was ignored.
In 1.6, CCP also added a mechanic where if you're hit, you get slowed down.
Could this be the reason TTK feels so short?
You are slow = Can't strafe as fast
You are slow = Can't get in cover in time
You are slow = Easy headshots for enemy
You are slow = [Get hit with more bullets in general]
Either way, I would like this mechanic to go away.
Especially since it gives high fire rate weapons like the Assault Combat Rifle an unfair advantage, as the more bullets you get hit with = more slowing down.
Which is why getting in cover while an HMG is shooting you can prove difficult.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6878
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:35:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So, in 1.6 hit detection was fixed.
TTK turned awfully fast, and the whine machines slowly went into full motion, peaking in 1.7.
People blamed it on improved hit detection, but something was ignored.
In 1.6, CCP also added a mechanic where if you're hit, you get slowed down.
Could this be the reason TTK feels so short?
You are slow = Can't strafe as fast
You are slow = Can't get in cover in time
You are slow = Easy headshots for enemy
You are slow = [Get hit with more bullets in general] I kill noobs with 5 bullets of a mlt ar....
At the minimum you need 10 bullets to kill a medium frame with absolutely zero skills or HP modules on.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6878
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:37:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So, in 1.6 hit detection was fixed.
TTK turned awfully fast, and the whine machines slowly went into full motion, peaking in 1.7.
People blamed it on improved hit detection, but something was ignored.
In 1.6, CCP also added a mechanic where if you're hit, you get slowed down.
Could this be the reason TTK feels so short?
You are slow = Can't strafe as fast
You are slow = Can't get in cover in time
You are slow = Easy headshots for enemy
You are slow = [Get hit with more bullets in general] I kill noobs with 5 bullets of a mlt ar.... And yet it wasn't a problem before 1.6, nobody complained. Because it took more than 5 And the damage for our weapons is too high
Uhh...
First of all, the minimum is 10 for a medium frame, more if they have any HP modules or skills.
Secondly, damage wasn't increased, hence before 1.6 and past 1.6 there shouldn't have been a change if that's the reason.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6880
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:39:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So, in 1.6 hit detection was fixed.
TTK turned awfully fast, and the whine machines slowly went into full motion, peaking in 1.7.
People blamed it on improved hit detection, but something was ignored.
In 1.6, CCP also added a mechanic where if you're hit, you get slowed down.
Could this be the reason TTK feels so short?
You are slow = Can't strafe as fast
You are slow = Can't get in cover in time
You are slow = Easy headshots for enemy
You are slow = [Get hit with more bullets in general] I kill noobs with 5 bullets of a mlt ar.... Considering even scouts have more base HP than that, I'm inclined to believe you're exaggerating.  To test a asmg Mlt ar Caldari academy noob 5 bullets
Minimum bullets to kill a scout without headshots is 7.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6880
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:40:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I think it was a combination of things...
Hit detection, slowdown when hit mechanic, introduction of new weapons, and introduction of AA all had an effect.
1.6 didn't introduce the weapons.
AA was introduced in 1.4.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6880
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:41:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:damn is that what that was......... i just thought the people were dumb and stared back at me waiting to die........ive noticed this kind off when using a tank becuase i can blaster kill them while they zipping rnd corners. its like they hit turtle mode or something
Oh yeah, blasters seem to have that effect extra strong.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6880
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:43:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:
i find u can qlmost always kill 4 enemies with one assualt rifle magazine
Try that against proto suits :P
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6880
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:53:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:I disagree. I don't like any proposition that suggests you really should be on equal footings in a 1v1 environment if you get jumped by somebody.
Everyone shouting for higher TTK/no AA/no spin cap/tons faster strafing/no weapon knockback are arguing for a very non-tactical shooter situation.
You already have the advantage.
You did a lot of damage.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6880
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:53:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:
i find u can qlmost always kill 4 enemies with one assualt rifle magazine
Try that against proto suits :P headshots d i was includng heavies and proto suits....u a beta player???? if so this should be no problem 4 u
Uhh...
Unless you have perfect accuracy, and I mean PERFECT, I don't see how that's possible against proto suits.
And HEAVIES?
With double damge mods, a GEK and PROF, killing one takes half my clip.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6890
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:58:00 -
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MEOW
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6890
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:05:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:How did you prove this mechanic even exists?
If you didn't notice it yet, you're blind.
Try jumping while an HMG is shooting at you, see how high and how far you go.
Hint: I get stopped in midair.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6891
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:42:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:How did you prove this mechanic even exists? If you didn't notice it yet, you're blind. Try jumping while an HMG is shooting at you, see how high and how far you go. Hint: I get stopped in midair. You see - my problem in PC lately has been that during random times - my speed suit with 3 kats is crawling slower then my fully armored suit. It's been my opinion since 1.6 CCP ****** up something regarding speed on a heavy suit - so if you're basing this off just that suit - you may want to test it out on a stacked suit of a different variety. I certainly haven't noticed people being 'slowed' by my bullets - but then again, nothing lives long enough for me to see it.
It definitely happens.
The quicksand bug is a different phenomenon, and I believe it's linked to throwing equipment/firing a weapon and then instantly sprinting.
Affects all suits I use, not just kin cat suits.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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