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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 11:18:00 -
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It may seem pointless and even petty in many respects but I feel this is somewhat justified given the amount of money charged for, by CCP, and exploited out of me as a Oceanic PSN users, but I am seriously let down by the lack of effort put into the Faction Pack, specifically for the Amarr.
Initially after reading the description of the Amarr faction pack, this being
"The imperial looks and heavy firepower of the Amarr faction are yours with this complete set of dropsuits and gear, including the golden 'Imperial Guard' ak.0 assault suit that stands out among the others and 'Stormvein' Carthum assault scrambler rifle. Your mercenary is armed for today and prepared for the future, with 100 copies each of both advanced and prototype versions of every item in the pack."
As stated https://dust514.com/news/2014/02/new-in-the-marketplace-february-25-2014/
I feel somewhat disappointed at the lack of effort put into the reskin of the content for this package.
Now firstly let me state that I by no means am requesting renumeration for the packs I bought, far from it, the content within functions as effectively as any other, and I wish to support this game, since I do in fact love it. However my issue stands simply with the lack of effort put into the reskinning of these suits
Now admittedly I am very vain, and even the chance to make use of, and Favourite the so called "Golden Imperial Guard" dropsuit was very exciting, even the possibility of simply having, as a sort of collectible, the "Imperial Guard" Assault suit, as I have almost all of the other limited/aurum edition Amarr dropsuit content, was reason enough to purchase the pack.
However when viewing the items I felt hugely let down with the results.
Initially one might have been expecting a colour scheme befitting the Imperial Navy- the Platinum/Silver and Black Patterns
Or maybe something akin to a Templar Suit, modified slightly- Reds and Silvers, or even Golds
But what we received was not even close to being remotely what the blurb for the pack stated.
There was no gold on any dropsuit in the package.
The "Imperial Guard" A/1 cannot even be remotely called golden. Its is a dull and drab green/yellow, unbefitting the Amarr, and of course ruining the image of the dropsuit.
The "Imperial Guard "Ak.0 was simply put, and disgustingly so, not even reskinned, a barely concealed "Neo" Ak.0 with a slight orange?
ORANGE FOR Gods damn sake CCP what it is with you and bloody orange? The ******* Protectorate suit is bloody orange now, yet another suit that godawful colour has ruined for me.
My simple question is why bother is the result are going to be so visually unappealing, and also lack lustre, had they been simle "neo" skins I would not have been disappointed, but the fact that the colours were changed even slightly, and to such poorly chosen, and anaesthetically pleasing is frustrating.
I fail to understand the significance of Orange and the inability to produce a pleasant looking golden, or even silver colour.
Now my Issue here is two fold.
Not only was the content released missing the Gold, mentioned, and promised in the blurb, not present in the content that I paid for. This being my primary concern.
But additionally I only served to make me concerned that barely put any effort into the content release as small as it maybe, and as simple as that would have been to incorporate.
I want to keep supporting Dust financially, and as a regular player, but this content release, only needing a simple reskin and adherence to the promises made in the blurb attached to have made this a resounding success. However CCP, as a customer I am rather dissatisfied with the purchase as a whole, not because of costs, or some such reason, but simply because the small little bits of effort were not present in this release.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:42:00 -
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Bump. I somewhat would like some form of acknowledgement. I wouldn't have minded if they hadn't even tried, that is simply better than half assing something.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 21:30:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:yeah... the imp guard colour scheme is kinda putting me off from buying the pack
Do not purchase it yet. I am very interested in receiving a response from CCP in regards to this. Its not a matter of trying and failing to achieve something, its a matter of not having tried at all. And that is what is upsetting.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 21:51:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:I'm going to continue bumping this indefinitely until CCP provides a response
As will I. This is something I am not going to let go of without a decent response. I'm not necessarily demanding a golden suit, simply a Dev acknowledgement of the issue as I see it, and my opinions in regards to further buying such packages will hinge on the response.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:02:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:True Adamance wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:I'm going to continue bumping this indefinitely until CCP provides a response As will I. This is something I am not going to let go of without a decent response. I'm not necessarily demanding a golden suit, simply a Dev acknowledgement of the issue as I see it, and my opinions in regards to further buying such packages will hinge on the response. It's not about demanding a goddamn golden suit, its about buying a pack that sells a goddamn golden suit and it not being a goddamn golden suit! Btw, Viziam Forge Gun?? True??
A mottle shade of brown with camo patterns...... looks more Gurista than Amarr
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:41:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:this is why you buy gallente stuff. my federal marine gk.o is an actual reskin (slightly)
You can confirm this is the case?
If so then I am hugely disappointed that someone so badly, poorly, and without thought made such minor cosmetic changes and thought that would fly with paying customers who were expecting a certain standard of quality and pride in work.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:03:00 -
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Can any other Faction Combat Packs confirm alternate vanity colour schemes?
Blue Caldari or Red Minmatar?
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:49:00 -
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I am still rather concerned about this and would appreciate a response even if dismissive, otherwise will submit tickets on my many characters across the board until a meaningful response it achieved.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:16:00 -
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As I said. I will not let this rest.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:00:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:There is a trick to getting them but it sucks. If I post it people will ***** and qq. Anyways.. The packs are nice I like it better then the other packs we got. whats the trick to getting them?
There is no trick, I simply bought and paid for them on the NZ PSN , it would seem EU and NA are having issues with the purchases.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:04:00 -
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How can I upload them to this forum?
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:44:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:True Adamance wrote:How can I upload them to this forum? Upload them to a site such as imgur. Then link the image here :)
Rodger will do.
If anyone has the other FW combat packs I would appreciate the pictures here as well, either for comparison, or as an example of the oddities we see in the content packs.
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Posted - 2014.03.01 00:11:00 -
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http://imgur.com/U6p1cd8,7r6F4Gb,1fIJiOw,qJnHoF8,23qozip,Ol8MygG,BWlzD9Z,cSZzTkH,a1K5qm1,oF9v9ww
I have the back and front views of them.
In order they are the Ak.0, the A/1, and finally in comparison the Templar Sentinel.....which for those of you who own them or have seen them on the battlefield know that the golden colour scheme is down pat.
Now my camera is not all that good, but the actual colour of the A/1 is a drab green/yellow colour, which by comparison does not resemble the Gold of the Templar Suit at all.
So due to my cameras poor quality compare the Sentinel Armour plating scheme with the A/1 and you will see that colours do not align even slightly.
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Posted - 2014.03.01 02:58:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:True Adamance wrote:http://imgur.com/U6p1cd8,7r6F4Gb,1fIJiOw,qJnHoF8,23qozip,Ol8MygG,BWlzD9Z,cSZzTkH,a1K5qm1,oF9v9ww
I have the back and front views of them.
In order they are the Ak.0, the A/1, and finally in comparison the Templar Sentinel.....which for those of you who own them or have seen them on the battlefield know that the golden colour scheme is down pat.
Now my camera is not all that good, but the actual colour of the A/1 is a drab green/yellow colour, which by comparison does not resemble the Gold of the Templar Suit at all.
So due to my cameras poor quality compare the Sentinel Armour plating scheme with the A/1 and you will see that colours do not align even slightly. Goddamnit that is not gold! but that A/1 looks KINDA cool, slightly tickles my fancy. I'm contemplating getting it anyway... should I true? Green eyes on the A/1 series are pretty cool.
If you would but its far more underwhelming in your MQ.
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:36:00 -
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Bumping. A simple Dev answer even several words long would suffice to tell me whether or not I will be supporting Dust 5`4 financially in the future.
As it stands I personally feel very dissatisfied with the Amarr colour schemes, and as a proud players of Dust, and an Amarr loyalist, I was happy to have bought the packs to support CCP.
However this poor quality effort is what is giving me such misgivings. If the developers cannot adequately colour the dropsuits of the racial groups they created with visually appealing and appropriate colours they are failing to meet their basic obligations to fans and collectors.
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:46:00 -
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Valerie Viever wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:I feel you. Why buy things for cosmetic reasons if the cosmetics aren't up to par? This is a minor thing, but do you remember the Ruby-gold "Burnscar" Khanid pistol? It's an Aurum PRO level Scram pistol, but it's just a straight-up AUR replacement (the fitting stats are the same and it still requires PRO skills).
I paid real money for the Burnscar because I liked the idea of the Ruby-gold Scrambler Pistol (even though EVE-wise, that's more of a Carthum color-scheme). However, the gun no longer has any special texture/color. A gun whose only purpose was literally being a different color... looks no different. It's not even sold anymore either. I made bug threads... I assume off-market goods are low priority though.
I sure hope the Amarr vehicles are a rhapsody of golden curves when we finally get them. The Amarr vehicles in EVE are the sexiest thing ever, and it would be sad to not have that. I disagree. It's not minor, is a major thing. It's the defining feature of their business strategy. If the game isn't pay to win (it shouldn't) then the only reason to spend money on micro transactions is for cosmetic purposes. If they can't get that right then their business model is fatally flawed. How can they expect income if their cosmetic differences are less pleasing than the basic stuff in game. We games are a vain lot, and will spend hard earned cash for the simplest of visual differences....provided they're appealing to the eye! Not these vomit green smgs, Orange drop suits and "ruby gold" pistols that are indistinguishable from the AUR version... this is a major issue and should be treated as such!
I feel this is very much more eloquent explaination.
Yes this is a very minor aspect to gripe about, but IMO its the little thing, the little bits of effort that go into something that often show how much a group producing a product cares about their work.
For example when I worked for an electrician/ handiman installing fencing for residential properties he would import from the US the same colour paints and laquers as original fencing. This ensure that even if a section of fencing was scratched or knocked over during installation we could cover the damage and make it look as new, even if scratches were a minor as a kid driving his Tonka into the fence he would ensure that the fence looked aesthetically please, and as what the client paid for.
As a result this drummed up plenty of repeat business and word of mouth reccommendations.
What CCP has failed to do is look at the small picture. They saw the big picture, racial FW combat packs with good content in it......but failed to look at the smaller aspects like appearance and design, the essential reasons that players would pay real money for their content over simply using ISK.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:16:00 -
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Again I have not forgotten about this and am requesting some sort of Dev response.
Really how hard is it to look at a short thread like this and answer the question.
Who was it that thought this would be acceptable quality when I know that your technical capacity extends to acceptable Gold shades for dropsuits.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:38:00 -
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Can any other Faction Combat Packs confirm alternate vanity colour schemes?
Blue Caldari or Red Minmatar? I bought the Minmatar one, the Republic assaults are indeed red, well a shade of red it changes colour depending on how much light is hitting the suit. Kinda goes from a blood red in the shade to almost bright pink if i stand next to the market place screen  I can atleast say that they aren't just some sh!tty reskins where they took a neo suit and put a bit of red on it, they are actually red Assault suits. The M/1 is like the usual mk.0 but all the black is red and the mk.0 is a black suit with diffferent shades of red for all the armour/hadware. Overall i am pretty happy with the way they turned out i just wish they had republic logistic suits in the pack aswell, but the standard ones will have to do.
I see do you have pictures.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:03:00 -
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Can any other Faction Combat Packs confirm alternate vanity colour schemes?
Blue Caldari or Red Minmatar? I bought the Minmatar one, the Republic assaults are indeed red, well a shade of red it changes colour depending on how much light is hitting the suit. Kinda goes from a blood red in the shade to almost bright pink if i stand next to the market place screen I can atleast say that they aren't just some sh!tty reskins where they took a neo suit and put a bit of red on it, they are actually red Assault suits. The M/1 is like the usual mk.0 but all the black is red and the mk.0 is a black suit with diffferent shades of red for all the armour/hadware. Overall i am pretty happy with the way they turned out i just wish they had republic logistic suits in the pack aswell, but the standard ones will have to do. I see do you have pictures. http://MinmatarMerenary9292.imgur.com/all/Now i am not tech savvy at all so these are probably still sideways  but atleast you get to see it, they are both the same red its just differing amounts of light on them, these are the M/1 and the mk.0.
I cannot view them, also love da orkiness in ya sig ya Nob!
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Posted - 2014.03.03 20:24:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:In protest of these awful colours and misleading item description I've decided to purchase the pack. Because I am CCPs *****. Lmao this is exactly what I did too :/ Still CCP come on just give us that gold, the minmatar suits look baller
Indeed as do the Caldari Suits, and the Gallente.
Yet the Amarr get shafted?
This will not fly.
Sending another round of support tickets today.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:46:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Not Amarr but +1
I would like to think we can get CCP to acknowledge this and take this sort of thing seriously. Their game thrives on little details and innovations.
These details are what I am trying to discuss now, and I feel that for what we paid, as customers, and what we expected as players, fans, collectors, is not really up to scratch when we know they can achieve a proper gold shade.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:35:00 -
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Still looking for answers!
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Posted - 2014.03.06 07:22:00 -
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THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE The Burnscar Khanid Scrambler Pistol is also supposed to be, and it says so in its item description, that its a ruby-gold colour.
ITS RED AND BLACK!
Why is this entire pack such a let down?
Please I am still waiting on a response.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 03:14:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:CCP I demand you fix this or I'll be forced to purchase more of your poorly designed products.
Don't make me do it. We all know you hate money. In all seriousness I demand an answer CCP, you cannot expect us to be content with false advertising and I am not here to demand a refund, no, I am here to demand that you give us the vanity items that you have described and on top of all that the vanity items that we want. My Imperial Guard A/1 looks like a white coat that was drenched in a swamp, all I see is swamp green.
Indeed all other faction packs received a noticeable and aesthetically pleasing change..... we however did not and the suits were half assed.
Neither has my support ticket been answered by a GM or CCP employee.
Why does CCP refuse to address my issue?
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:55:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:+1
I remember you telling me about the pack in a squad awhile ago. Hope it all gets resolved!
It has yet to be resolved and I dont even think GM's have responded to my support tickets.
I'll be resubmitting them every week to ensure a response from now on.
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:In fact, I just did. Saberwing said he'll talk to a GM!
Fantastic, I would also like to get onto IRC.
Please CCP Sabrewing if you read this. I am not upset at price, content, etc only simply that compared to the other faction packs which received suitable re-skins the Amarr neither recieved a Golden suit as the blurd described, nor a fitting skin for their dropsuits.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 07:28:00 -
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I have determined possibly and easy reskin of the suits and would like to hear what any followers of this thread think.
If any have seen the Templar suits they know that the armour plating is primarily a rich golden, while the over coat is white with red detail. I suggest and inversion of the white and red at proto level and a simple over lay of the camo colour scheme on the A-1.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 10:27:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:FFS, if you're going to spend money on expendable AUR items, you deserve to feel buyers remorse. Skill boosters are the only thing worth the money.
Its not buyers remorse functionally the pack provides me with everything I paid for except the aesthetic looks one would expect, and were promised in the description of the pack.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:34:00 -
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No we cannot.
I am glad with have such support!
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Posted - 2014.03.20 00:09:00 -
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote:Maybe i read the pack wrong the other day but im pretty sure the response to your complaint is them removing gold from the description, it just says imperial guard ak.0 now, unless it mentioned gold somewhere else but i couldn't see it.
That then is unacceptable because a significant number of those who purchased this pack did so believing the Gold suits were going to be delivered.
Regardless my complaint is directed more at the lack of effort put into the Amarr suits.
The Caldari, Minmatar, and Gallente all have fitting and aesthetically pleasing and suitable of their race....the Amarr however do not.
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