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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.02.26 10:28:00 -
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this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish. |
abarkrishna
WarRavens
315
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Posted - 2014.02.26 10:52:00 -
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Why get down off the roof when you can spam tanks and shoot people with a rail rifle from over a hundred meters away.
No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2.
When will they learn!
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.02.26 10:54:00 -
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Did you say you weren't here for the lasers and MDs? |
Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.02.26 10:58:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Did you say you weren't here for the lasers and MDs?
im here for the cheap caldari hoes, nothin' else. but my route to get there is full of people hiding on roofs. |
Cmdr Wolfe
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
60
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Posted - 2014.02.26 11:01:00 -
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the game isnt "fun"... i play for the fast cars and women... what else? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1538
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Posted - 2014.02.26 11:14:00 -
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Fun is subjective. What you may find to be fun, others may not. The same applies vice versa. |
Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Auxiliaries
68
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Posted - 2014.02.26 11:21:00 -
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What about FGers on roofs trying to get rid of the tank infestation |
Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
823
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Posted - 2014.02.26 11:25:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Did you say you weren't here for the lasers and MDs? im here for the cheap caldari hoes, nothin' else. but my route to get there is full of people hiding on roofs. Caldari babes can drive a steep price for that booty. Not that I'm complaining, caldari women are the finest new eden has to offer, built like a rhok fit but damn sexy.
If you want cheap minmatar hoes are the way to go, why their so cheap you could even call them slaves |
Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
185
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Posted - 2014.02.26 11:34:00 -
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I'm sick of tanks on roofs. And the players that put them there.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1338
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Posted - 2014.02.26 12:26:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish.
CCP destroyed their own game by making only one way to win the game and that is all tryhards care about. The rest of us have fun with the toys in the game.
It's simple. You are either on a team with proto stompers or you are not. Either way your actions don't mean anything. Let the tryhards win the game. Grab a weapon or vehicle of your choice and have fun.
Yes, the rest of us are having fun. You are pushing the objectives.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
712
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Posted - 2014.02.26 12:31:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Did you say you weren't here for the lasers and MDs? im here for the cheap caldari hoes, nothin' else. but my route to get there is full of people hiding on roofs. I can help you clear the way if we can double team some of them.
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Scheherazade VII
285
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Posted - 2014.02.26 12:55:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish. CCP destroyed their own game by making only one way to win the game and that is all tryhards care about. The rest of us have fun with the toys in the game. It's simple. You are either on a team with proto stompers or you are not. Either way your actions don't mean anything. Let the tryhards win the game. Grab a weapon or vehicle of your choice and have fun. Yes, the rest of us are having fun. You are pushing the objectives. All this goes better with beer.
maybe beer is what im missing |
Scheherazade VII
285
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Posted - 2014.02.26 12:56:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Did you say you weren't here for the lasers and MDs? im here for the cheap caldari hoes, nothin' else. but my route to get there is full of people hiding on roofs. I can help you clear the way if we can double team some of them.
they say to never make eye-contact in a devil's threesome but i say high-fives all the way!
see you out back in 5. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2958
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:16:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish. CCP destroyed their own game by making only one way to win the game and that is all tryhards care about. The rest of us have fun with the toys in the game. It's simple. You are either on a team with proto stompers or you are not. Either way your actions don't mean anything. Let the tryhards win the game. Grab a weapon or vehicle of your choice and have fun. Yes, the rest of us are having fun. You are pushing the objectives. All this goes better with beer.
The matches are always filled with so many randoms I just don't understand this logic. Even when there is a good squad on the other side they have at least 6-8 randoms that queued solo. It happens quite often that there is only one squad on either side of the match.
At some point, you'd really think people would start to learn that the game favors team play. At least it gives you tools to compound your tactical abilities by being in a squad and using equipment and communication to gain an advantage.
It really doesn't take that much effort to find a group. There are some decent corps out there that have very low recruiting standards.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1746
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:22:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote: It really doesn't take that much effort to find a group. There are some decent corps out there that have very low recruiting standards.
Our only recruitment prerequisite is to speak/understand italian and still people accuse us of protostomping, go figure.
At a certain point, OP is right. there's no fun in camping. But there's another point, unfortunately. When people plays, first off they want to have fun and at the same time they want to win. So, if your squad is against another squad of another corp, you already know they're going to camp certain strategically important points, so you try to take it first. It's bad level design, not a player's fault.
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
1964
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:28:00 -
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when ever i hear a comment like the op, I always picture two rams butting heads.
it honestly feels like what they want the game to play like.
just two masses of people running head long at each other shooting their guns indiscriminately. of course in my imagination every single gun is a standard AR and everyone is in gallente assault suits.
you talk about the way other people play, that honestly sounds like the most boring thing I could possibly imagine. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1339
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:40:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish. CCP destroyed their own game by making only one way to win the game and that is all tryhards care about. The rest of us have fun with the toys in the game. It's simple. You are either on a team with proto stompers or you are not. Either way your actions don't mean anything. Let the tryhards win the game. Grab a weapon or vehicle of your choice and have fun. Yes, the rest of us are having fun. You are pushing the objectives. All this goes better with beer. The matches are always filled with so many randoms I just don't understand this logic. Even when there is a good squad on the other side they have at least 6-8 randoms that queued solo. It happens quite often that there is only one squad on either side of the match. At some point, you'd really think people would start to learn that the game favors team play. At least it gives you tools to compound your tactical abilities by being in a squad and using equipment and communication to gain an advantage. It really doesn't take that much effort to find a group. There are some decent corps out there that have very low recruiting standards.
I play video games to get away from groups of ppl. This game fits that quite nicely. If I wanted team play I'd go play soccer or chess. I gave up on groups a long time ago because I'd rather move and communicate as much like my time in the military as possible. That isn't really going to happen with most players.
I can't use my mic most times anyway because I've got kids shouting and the T.V. blaring. HenceGǪ beer.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1519
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:48:00 -
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welcome to the wonderful world of "competitive play" only 2 things matter here K/Dr and the almighty isk.
GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥
Ko6 scout,
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2958
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:56:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish. CCP destroyed their own game by making only one way to win the game and that is all tryhards care about. The rest of us have fun with the toys in the game. It's simple. You are either on a team with proto stompers or you are not. Either way your actions don't mean anything. Let the tryhards win the game. Grab a weapon or vehicle of your choice and have fun. Yes, the rest of us are having fun. You are pushing the objectives. All this goes better with beer. The matches are always filled with so many randoms I just don't understand this logic. Even when there is a good squad on the other side they have at least 6-8 randoms that queued solo. It happens quite often that there is only one squad on either side of the match. At some point, you'd really think people would start to learn that the game favors team play. At least it gives you tools to compound your tactical abilities by being in a squad and using equipment and communication to gain an advantage. It really doesn't take that much effort to find a group. There are some decent corps out there that have very low recruiting standards. I play video games to get away from groups of ppl. This game fits that quite nicely. If I wanted team play I'd go play soccer or chess. I gave up on groups a long time ago because I'd rather move and communicate as much like my time in the military as possible. That isn't really going to happen with most players. I can't use my mic most times anyway because I've got kids shouting and the T.V. blaring. HenceGǪ beer.
But you are playing a game that the mechanics are 90% geared toward team play. Then complain when solo isn't rewarding.
I believe the definition of insanity fits here.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
232
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Posted - 2014.02.26 15:16:00 -
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Until the payout system in pubs is changed to reward those teams that win the match more so than those that lose them then people will always place KDR above all else, going toe to toe with multiple opponents as you push forward is too much attrition for most players to stomach.
Since I grabbed my fat suit, though, I'm loving it.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1164
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Posted - 2014.02.26 15:35:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish. CCP destroyed their own game by making only one way to win the game and that is all tryhards care about. The rest of us have fun with the toys in the game. It's simple. You are either on a team with proto stompers or you are not. Either way your actions don't mean anything. Let the tryhards win the game. Grab a weapon or vehicle of your choice and have fun. Yes, the rest of us are having fun. You are pushing the objectives. All this goes better with beer. The matches are always filled with so many randoms I just don't understand this logic. Even when there is a good squad on the other side they have at least 6-8 randoms that queued solo. It happens quite often that there is only one squad on either side of the match. At some point, you'd really think people would start to learn that the game favors team play. At least it gives you tools to compound your tactical abilities by being in a squad and using equipment and communication to gain an advantage. It really doesn't take that much effort to find a group. There are some decent corps out there that have very low recruiting standards. I play video games to get away from groups of ppl. This game fits that quite nicely. If I wanted team play I'd go play soccer or chess. I gave up on groups a long time ago because I'd rather move and communicate as much like my time in the military as possible. That isn't really going to happen with most players. I can't use my mic most times anyway because I've got kids shouting and the T.V. blaring. HenceGǪ beer.
SHUT DA FRONT DOOR... When did Chess offer "Teamplay?" The Hell kinda chess you playing?
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1371
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Posted - 2014.02.26 15:38:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Until the payout system in pubs is changed to reward those teams that win the match more so than those that lose them then people will always place KDR above all else, going toe to toe with multiple opponents as you push forward is too much attrition for most players to stomach.
Since I grabbed my fat suit, though, I'm loving it.
pretty much... DUST has slowly eroded a majority of players drive to "Win" There just wasn't much point in it until FW... and that is such a huge ISK sink to be competitive that the average mercenary doesn't participate..
The drive and passion I had at the start of DUST made me shoot for winning at all costs... Letter needed to be hacked in a hostile area? meh ill do it...
Now? screw that ill just stand around the letter and milk kills until a blueberry comes and hacks it... A redberry will just spawn on my back and kill me before i could defend myself anyway... no matter if I completely cleared the objective several times myself...
Winning in Pub's isn't necessary and will cost you more ISK then its worth currently.. Most tankers, Full time Proto-Users don't care about MCC health or who is going to win because it has little personal bearing on them... We get better results protecting ourselfs not risking for a win and milking kills.
And that is sad... and a huge contributing factor to why DUST isn't "Fun" anymore.... Because winning just doesn't matter.. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2958
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Posted - 2014.02.26 15:47:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Until the payout system in pubs is changed to reward those teams that win the match more so than those that lose them then people will always place KDR above all else, going toe to toe with multiple opponents as you push forward is too much attrition for most players to stomach.
Since I grabbed my fat suit, though, I'm loving it. pretty much... DUST has slowly eroded a majority of players drive to "Win" There just wasn't much point in it until FW... and that is such a huge ISK sink to be competitive that the average mercenary doesn't participate.. The drive and passion I had at the start of DUST made me shoot for winning at all costs... Letter needed to be hacked in a hostile area? meh ill do it... Now? screw that ill just stand around the letter and milk kills until a blueberry comes and hacks it... A redberry will just spawn on my back and kill me before i could defend myself anyway... no matter if I completely cleared the objective several times myself... Winning in Pub's isn't necessary and will cost you more ISK then its worth currently.. Most tankers, Full time Proto-Users don't care about MCC health or who is going to win because it has little personal bearing on them... We get better results protecting ourselfs not risking for a win and milking kills. And that is sad... and a huge contributing factor to why DUST isn't "Fun" anymore.... Because winning just doesn't matter..
DING, DING, DING
we have a winner
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
64
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:16:00 -
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We each play our own game, I suppose.
Though I've only squaded up a handful of times, I don't have anything against it in principle. My issues stem from lack of a mic, the need to wait on the squad leader to (often times cherry) pick battles, and the idea that my team knows any better than I do the most effective strategy for winning a match (ie, I don't take orders well).
There is definitely a camp within the Dust community that believes that Dust is entirely, at its core, about team play; and while I won't deny that team play is an integral part of the game (especially at present), it certainly isn't required to have a good time, or even be effective in battle, making a meaningful contribution. From what I've seen, a lot of the folks that wax righteous about team play are often times the same folks that ***** about playstyles that don't involve running with the frontline. In other words, the game they want is some sort of futuristic version of Braveheart with automatic rifles. I'm trying for Day of the Jackal meets Pulp Fiction.
I have tons of fun playing solo. Getting back-to-back headshot kills against a squad leader his logi with a charge rifle from 400m is super fun. Try it some time!
Have you seen my baseball?
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
392
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:18:00 -
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I don't do that but I can assume that some of those players are tired of playing the same modes over and over again so this is the new fun for them.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
8
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:38:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:
But you are playing a game that the mechanics are 90% geared toward team play. Then complain when solo isn't rewarding.
I believe the definition of insanity fits here.
90% is not 100%. Under the description of Public Contracts, it says "For lone mercs or small squads". Lone mercs have their place.
CRNWLLC wrote:We each play our own game, I suppose.
Though I've only squaded up a handful of times, I don't have anything against it in principle. My issues stem from lack of a mic, the need to wait on the squad leader to (often times cherry) pick battles, and the idea that my team knows any better than I do the most effective strategy for winning a match (ie, I don't take orders well).
There is definitely a camp within the Dust community that believes that Dust is entirely, at its core, about team play; and while I won't deny that team play is an integral part of the game (especially at present), it certainly isn't required to have a good time, or even be effective in battle, making a meaningful contribution. From what I've seen, a lot of the folks that wax righteous about team play are often times the same folks that ***** about playstyles that don't involve running with the frontline. In other words, the game they want is some sort of futuristic version of Braveheart with automatic rifles. I'm trying for Day of the Jackal meets Pulp Fiction.
I have tons of fun playing solo. Getting back-to-back headshot kills against a squad leader his logi with a charge rifle from 400m is super fun. Try it some time!
^WOW! Word for word, thats exactly how I play Dust. Me too i have a corp that i sometimes squad with, but I just cant sync my style of doing things with them. Sometimes I need some serious outfitting time and they are all impatient to go, other times Im impatient to go while they are all on coffee break.
I just wish it was more like playing in squads is something you because you want to, and not because you have to. |
Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
154
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:51:00 -
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playing right was only fun for about 1 1/2 years. sadly this games only real appeal now is trolling both blue and red
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
155
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:24:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:this goes out to all the people who constantly spam tanks and camp on roofs. really? do you really have to do that?
do you have such little fun playing this game that you have to resort to never setting foot on the ground, never pushing the objective, never working as a team.
why take the fun out of the game? are you actually having fun camping on the roof and spamming infantry with a blaster tank at the objective? how about everyone gets down to the objective and fights for it!
the players are destroying this game. don't make it no fun for anyone else, we all play this game, stop being so bloody selfish. CCP destroyed their own game by making only one way to win the game and that is all tryhards care about. The rest of us have fun with the toys in the game. It's simple. You are either on a team with proto stompers or you are not. Either way your actions don't mean anything. Let the tryhards win the game. Grab a weapon or vehicle of your choice and have fun. Yes, the rest of us are having fun. You are pushing the objectives. All this goes better with beer. The matches are always filled with so many randoms I just don't understand this logic. Even when there is a good squad on the other side they have at least 6-8 randoms that queued solo. It happens quite often that there is only one squad on either side of the match. At some point, you'd really think people would start to learn that the game favors team play. At least it gives you tools to compound your tactical abilities by being in a squad and using equipment and communication to gain an advantage. It really doesn't take that much effort to find a group. There are some decent corps out there that have very low recruiting standards. those kind of corps are the worst. a gaggle of noobs with nothing in common except a co dependence on each other. take 6 experienced lone wolfs into a squad and watch the magic unfold,
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2872
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:25:00 -
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Camping is in every game, Dust if field day when you compare camping here to other games.
Templar BPO(350Mil)
EVE Pilot
I feed off your tears
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1766
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:36:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:maybe beer is what im missing
Confirming that beer makes DUST more enjoyable. Also: whiskey.
Enjoy responsibly, kids.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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