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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:54:00 -
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I run nothing but Minmatar. Everything about the race just fits my style of battle. The min commando isn't bad. In fact, I've gone 36-1 in some matches with an advanced min commando with Combat Rifle and Mass Driver combo....the LOL 's you get when you mass drive a cloaked scout.
I admit the min suits sacrifice so much tank for, to be honest a very nil movement advantage that is easily overcome by kincats on other suits. However, you don't have to fit anything for that natural speed, leaving slots for other things. Min suits across the board should have more speed or more regenerative properties then other suits. Heck Min suits should have more slots to fit as compensation as well.
Commando's do really gain an advantage when using its racial weapon so its only natural that since i specced into combat rifle and mass driver; I picked the suit to best use those weapons. and it even gets a damage bonus as a perk. However, its not mandatory you can fit whatever weapon you want and it can work, you just don't get damage bonuses. I actually have used the plasma cannon on it as an AV fit. Commando Reload FTW
The min suits are not meant to sustain front to front combat. You need to move shoot and move again. Always finding angles that give you an advantage. If you start taking too much fire....YOU GET OUTTA THERE simple as that. NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
TL;DR
MIn suits are for flanking Everything else is for tanking Racial Weapon on Racial Commando is useful but not mandatory
8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion
Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears
OMG the Tears!! :)
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3724
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:11:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Morrigan Uroboros wrote:For the slower suits though, its a large health decrease for what seams to be a very minimal speed increase Now you know the Amarrian pain of a sizable speed decrease for a very minimal health increase.
Oh you poor things.
No.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
91
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:46:00 -
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Emperor1349 wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:I am thinking about using the min commando for building an AV suit and an area of denial suit. I wish the commando suit had a grenade slot so I could run the AV fit with a flux grenade: the explosives damage bonus only partially negates the low damage to shields.
Question: people on this thread have been talking about the racial bonus. I've been taking a much needed break from Dust, so i am not sure what that means. The commando suit gives a dmg bonus for explosive weapons (like MD and SL), but people are talking about the CR being awesome on this suit, but I can't see the CR being classified as an explosive weapon. So, my questions are what is the weapon 'racial bonus' and if that bonus is something other than the commando suit bonus, what weapons do min suits get this bonus for? Thanks! The minmatar also gets projectile bonus' for the Cr
got it, thanks.
Realized afterward that racial bonus refers to the suit bonus for the race (versus the universal suit bonus). Been too long since I played last. Thanks for answering the noob question.
How similar in style/range/dmg is the CR to AR? I've been an AR user since I strtd playing in 1.3. If the CR is at all similar to the AR, I cld see how the CR/MD combo would be awesome. I'd tank shields and just let the suit racial bonus be my two comp dmg mods.
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Taz-666
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:36:00 -
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I think I can confirm that min commando suit does offer a bonus for swarms damage.
I have checked by firing 1 volley of swarms at an installation with both Min commando suit and also from a different suit without bonuses. Min Com leaves 2404 armour left, just swarms leaves 2556 armour. |
SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
32
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:41:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:Morrigan Uroboros wrote:For the slower suits though, its a large health decrease for what seams to be a very minimal speed increase Now you know the Amarrian pain of a sizable speed decrease for a very minimal health increase. atm, health and damage is all that matters in winning Unless you are only playing Ambush this is very untrue. Sure it helps in survival but if the enemy is so dug in due to the inability to capture, you have lost the match. The research facility 'pit' has driven me nuts as I haul ass the moment i hit the ground, whereas everyone 'cept for my squad is dawdling around
Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
32
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:41:00 -
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Taz-666 wrote:I think I can confirm that min commando suit does offer a bonus for swarms damage.
I have checked by firing 1 volley of swarms at an installation with both Min commando suit and also from a different suit without bonuses. Min Com leaves 2404 armour left, just swarms leaves 2556 armour.
Because swarms are sooo effective these days
Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
32
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:43:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Emperor1349 wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:I am thinking about using the min commando for building an AV suit and an area of denial suit. I wish the commando suit had a grenade slot so I could run the AV fit with a flux grenade: the explosives damage bonus only partially negates the low damage to shields.
Question: people on this thread have been talking about the racial bonus. I've been taking a much needed break from Dust, so i am not sure what that means. The commando suit gives a dmg bonus for explosive weapons (like MD and SL), but people are talking about the CR being awesome on this suit, but I can't see the CR being classified as an explosive weapon. So, my questions are what is the weapon 'racial bonus' and if that bonus is something other than the commando suit bonus, what weapons do min suits get this bonus for? Thanks! The minmatar also gets projectile bonus' for the Cr got it, thanks. Realized afterward that racial bonus refers to the suit bonus for the race (versus the universal suit bonus). Been too long since I played last. Thanks for answering the noob question. How similar in style/range/dmg is the CR to AR? I've been an AR user since I strtd playing in 1.3. If the CR is at all similar to the AR, I cld see how the CR/MD combo would be awesome. I'd tank shields and just let the suit racial bonus be my two comp dmg mods.
I like the CR as it is more KBM friendly. The AR has more spread than the shotgun when using KBM in my opinion
Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
108
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:53:00 -
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Morrigan Uroboros wrote:With my great love of the minmatar weaponry, and the commando class starting to look like it will finally be as good as it originally sounded, whats the verdict on the minmatar commando? The EHP looks rather low compared to the other suits, for a slight increase in speed, and trying to fit proto kincats with two light weapons seams like a chore, the PG seams a little low for a suit designed to run two light weapons, and a pg expansion is defiantly out of the question with only 1 low slot till proto. I see no option but two shield extenders on the highs, where as a galente or caldari could go for a damage mod with a much greater natural tank with a nice amount of slots for versatility, and seams like it could outclass the minmatar suit even with the explosive weaponry, never mind the blaster tech. Anyone else thinking our beloved rusted duck tape covered dropsuits might be outclassed again?
Use a Plasma Cannon if you are having PG problems :)
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED
YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN
-Romulus H3X
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
91
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Posted - 2014.03.30 13:46:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: I like the CR as it is more KBM friendly. The AR has more spread than the shotgun when using KBM in my opinion
I tried KBM last night for the first time. I've never played a FPS using KBM, but since I've used a mouse all day at work for the last 15 years, I figured it would be better for aiming than the DS3.
I was horrible at KBM. I can see how aiming would be easier; despite my complete lack of experience, i was already by the second match getting better long distance aiming for the MD projectile than I ever got with the DS3, but movement was brutal. The mental switch from analog sticks to digital keys messed with my head. I imagine I would eventually get used to it, but after three matches I gave up. The learning curve to switch to KBM is too much for an online game, particularly one with mostly seasoned players in it. I need to find a FPS with PVE that supports KBM so I can dial back the difficulty while I fumble through the controls like a 2 year old learning to walk.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
91
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Posted - 2014.03.30 13:52:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:
I like the CR as it is more KBM friendly. The AR has more spread than the shotgun when using KBM in my opinion
But I did enjoy the CR. I think I am going to level into the MD, CR, and Min Commando suit, and leave my AR for my Dren logi suit (The Armor Rep bonus on the min logi suit just does not align with the flanking speed of the suit for me to level back into it for now). |
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
470
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Posted - 2014.03.30 13:55:00 -
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As someone who put my dropsuit together with duct tape, the back part of an old TV, and some chicken wire....I'm just glad it works.
We can pickle that.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
806
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Posted - 2014.03.30 14:28:00 -
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Minmatar Commando is awesome. Aside from having buffs to two awesome weapons, it has better speed...and that's usually where people stop the analysis. They forget though that the only suit that MATCHES the Min Sentinel and Commando stamina regen rate is the Amarr scout. Think about that for a second!
I can't wait to spec fully into Min Commando. Min suits may not have the best stats for you @nal number crunchers but good gawd are the fun to play.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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