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Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1824	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:27:00 - [1] - Quote There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 2,415 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 84	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:29:00 - [2] - Quote Why does no one run injectors anymore... Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3873	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:30:00 - [3] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... "Why help others when you can help yourself?" -the slayer logi motto Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1825	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote I have a almost duplicate fit with an injector, some people are best left dead though I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 306	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:33:00 - [5] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... People just bleed out. They just stand there to die again. Or, in my case, I just get the needle mark but can never revive them. These are just a few reasons. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 272	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:33:00 - [6] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. No tears here. Even though I have a pretty poor gun game, I almost always finish in the top 5 or 10 in every match. Me and my trusty Six Kin Triage repper. And none of my suits are more than 30k. And those are what I call my fancy suits. My favorites are at 9k per. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 87	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:39:00 - [7] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. My suit is almost exactly the same, except I run packed AV grenades, an assault scream rifle, adv level rep nanohives instead of k-2s, and a standard injector instead of the uplink. Oh, and I use codebreakers and armour reppers instead of the armour plates. The only people that 1.8 hurts are the people that rely on the logi suits innate armour repper. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1826	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:42:00 - [8] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Karate chop My suit is almost exactly the same, except I run packed AV grenades, an assault scream rifle, adv level rep nanohives instead of k-2s, and a standard injector instead of the uplink. Oh, and I use codebreakers and armour reppers instead of the armour plates. I have several different set-ups, but the one I was using is easy fight wise and isk wise. Skilled into RR and SCR. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 87	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:42:00 - [9] - Quote Yea, logi suits get expensive fast... Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 569	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:44:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. Sorry but when i saw the 3 Enhanced shield extenders i couldn't focus on anything else in the post. FYI, NEVER fit 2 Enhanced shield extenders. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug

Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1827	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:53:00 - [11] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. Sorry but when i saw the 3 Enhanced shield extenders i couldn't focus on anything else in the post. FYI, NEVER fit 2 Enhanced shield extenders. I dint fit 2, i fit 3... I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1103	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:54:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. No, 1.8 is not going to hurt that kind of logi much if it all. But it damn sure will hurt at least one brand of true specialist logis: speed-hacker scout Min Logi. True, I am certainly guilty of, at times, pulling out my slayer logi RR fit and abusing it, and I agree that those abilities need to be nerfed. However, the uplink-dropping speed hacker min logi is truly going to die come 1.8- no more hack bonus, and uplinks becoming absolute trash when not dropped by an Amarr logi.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1879	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:57:00 - [13] - Quote I mostly use my logi suit on the dom map where the depot can't get orb'd. ADV Gal Logi 2 extenders 2 or 3 plates depending on the fit ADV scanner PRO injector Core Focused Flux GEK I'm usually top of the leaderboards if it's not a stomp either way, usually with over 4000wp. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1879	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:58:00 - [14] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. No, 1.8 is not going to hurt that kind of logi much if it all. But it damn sure will hurt at least one brand of true specialist logis: speed-hacker scout Min Logi. True, I am certainly guilty of, at times, pulling out my slayer logi RR fit and abusing it, and I agree that those abilities need to be nerfed. However, the uplink-dropping speed hacker min logi is truly going to die come 1.8- no more hack bonus, and uplinks becoming absolute trash when not dropped by an Amarr logi. Now you can put a dampener and codebreaker on a Min scout, while using an uplink, and have a better chance of not being scanned. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
HYENAKILLER X Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 636	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:05:00 - [15] - Quote Gal logi is losing armor rep. Are you kidding me? That absolutely sucks in in the worst way. Tanks are for pussies.
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1827	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:08:00 - [16] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Gal logi is losing armor rep. Are you kidding me? That absolutely sucks in in the worst way. Gal logis have 5, FIVE low slots. plenty of room to fit an armor rep..no issue there...next I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1879	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:08:00 - [17] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Gal logi is losing armor rep. Are you kidding me? That absolutely sucks in in the worst way. It's the logi bonus. Gal bonus was 5% reduction to CPU and PG usage of equipment. That's why I chose Gal. If we're going to get new hulls and turrets in a year's time or so, I'll be going Min logi, because the logi bonus is going to become 5% reduction to CPU and PG usage of equipment, and the Min logi bonus will improve the repair tool's range and rep rate. I'm still going to use at the very least, STD level for everything else. But knowing me, I'll probably have all PRO equipment again. But I also want a heavy with both HMG and forge, and a scout... I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1879	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:10:00 - [18] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Gal logi is losing armor rep. Are you kidding me? That absolutely sucks in in the worst way. Gal logis have 5, FIVE low slots. plenty of room to fit an armor rep..no issue there...next They may change the number slots. CCP said that's on the table. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
icdedppul PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 65	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:10:00 - [19] - Quote all logis are losing it.. however all Gal suits now gain inherent reps
George Moros Balkan Express Squad 312	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:10:00 - [20] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Sorry but when i saw the 3 Enhanced shield extenders i couldn't focus on anything else in the post. FYI, NEVER fit 2 Enhanced shield extenders. I dint fit 2, i fit 3... What Ares is trying to say is: 2 enhanced shield extenders: +66 HP for 5220 ISK, 72 CPU, 12 PG, 2 high slots 1 complex shield extender: +66 HP for 4275 ISK, 54 CPU, 11 PG, 1 high slot A fine example of "game balance". Pulvereus ergo queritor.

Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2851	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:16:00 - [21] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. I GÖú Kittens.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1879	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:17:00 - [22] - Quote icdedppul wrote: all logis are losing it.. however all Gal suits now gain inherent reps Really? I don't remember reading that. I thought it was the Gal light suits, or specifically the scout suit. Not saying you're lying, but source? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 228	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:20:00 - [23] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: No, 1.8 is not going to hurt that kind of logi much if it all. But it damn sure will hurt at least one brand of true specialist logis: speed-hacker scout Min Logi. True, I am certainly guilty of, at times, pulling out my slayer logi RR fit and abusing it, and I agree that those abilities need to be nerfed. However, the uplink-dropping speed hacker min logi is truly going to die come 1.8- no more hack bonus, and uplinks becoming absolute trash when not dropped by an Amarr logi. Scouts already hack more objectives than Min logi's currently. It has always seemed like a weak bonus on the 2nd slowest class in the game. Support bonuses make more sense, for a support class. Now the suit most likely to get to the objective first & undetected, get a bonus to what they do best, speed.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1879	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:20:00 - [24] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. I'm a tanker and I have PRO injectors. Depending on the map, you might get back up with 100% armor. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5096	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:32:00 - [25] - Quote DUST's worst actors? That belongs to the tankers. Anyways, my main concern with Logistics is the fact that you'll have to have Operation V just for your equipment to actually be worth a damn. Well that, and everyone's going to flock to Matari logistics. Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub [s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1416	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:34:00 - [26] - Quote i think the battle logi will be practically extinct next build if we geta respec i wont be running logi anymore. thats an effect less logi's in pubs. also combos like nano injector repper tool..gunna happen allot less often the average logi will be much less versatile in what they can bring to the table..so in short no its not really gunna nerf logi's themselves..its gunna nerf everyone else..the quality of logistical support is going to drop and while that may not effect logi's as they will still get there wp just in different ways..it will effect the teamates we support.. for example say i keep my logi i will be dropping repper tool completely scans to adv nanos to adv which also means no proto injectors..what does this mean well it means when u see mortedeamor in battle u can count on 0 nano hive support 0 repping 0 reviving 0 scans because i am amarian the only thing i will bring to the table is a randomly placed uplink before i swap to a usefull suit.. on that note who is going to spam amarr logi and stay in the suit when your only responsibility is uplinks? not me in fact i am not an uplink layer a well know tidbit about what i do asa logi i almost always ask the other logi to cover uplinks..why? because i am an amarr logi i am slow and not suited to getting those links out fast..not only am i not gunna get there fast i do not have the jumping ability as an amarr logi to navigate the roof's of dust effectively..for all these reasons i am actually more likely to just drop amarr logi altogether rather than deal with the adjustment now i have an adv minmatar logi..i have tryed to use it asa battle logi but just find it is not as effective at staying close to heavies and healing them while not being hit.. to be fair when ccp decided to limit logi gear and give bonuses to logi suits based on gear they never though further than what gear belongs to what race..they didnt think well what logi suits playstyle is best suited to repping heavies...hmm which logi is the best at running ahead and laying uplinks. they made this mistake because ccp is a rpg developer..they have 0 experience with fps but who knows lets watch and see..i am betting the logi's become more rare and also become much less versatile..im betting heavies will be sad when there squad mate carries no extra toys to assist them with. i know if i stick with logi i will laugh as i run past downed allies and say to myself dont you just wish ccp didnt make them so gear specific..to bad i cant rep you..to bad i wont revive you..blame ccp for making my slow ass amarrian logi a uplink layer A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Faunher Ivory Vanguard 136	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:38:00 - [27] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. And this is why nobody runs injectors anymore. Ungrateful peasants.
Daddrobit PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 524	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:49:00 - [28] - Quote Do we have the stats for the suits themselves yet? We don't know if CCP is going to nerf the PG/CPU and maybe even slot layout of logis in addition to all the equipment nerfing, and I have a bad feeling that they will. Either of those will be crippling. Regardless I won't be changing around my fit much so long as slot layout remains the same.. Min logistics Shield extender / Damage mod Shield Extender Shield Extender Shield Ectender Armor Rep Armor Plate / Armor Rep Armor Plate Armor Plate Advanced Weapon Nanohive Rep Tool Equipment Equipment. I change out the meta levels of my equipment and suit as needed, but that's the gist of what I do.
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1831	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:52:00 - [29] - Quote George Moros wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Sorry but when i saw the 3 Enhanced shield extenders i couldn't focus on anything else in the post. FYI, NEVER fit 2 Enhanced shield extenders. I dint fit 2, i fit 3... What Ares is trying to say is: 2 enhanced shield extenders: +66 HP for 5220 ISK, 72 CPU, 12 PG, 2 high slots 1 complex shield extender: +66 HP for 4275 ISK, 54 CPU, 11 PG, 1 high slot A fine example of "game balance". I only got shield extenders to level 5 a few weeks back, nnot been arsed to change my fittings I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Faunher Ivory Vanguard 138	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:54:00 - [30] - Quote As a logi, who occasionally slays, I believe we do need a slot reconfiguration. I used to run Min Assault, but it is just paled in comparison with the Min Logis capability to slay. I liked how in closed beta, the logi was generally weaker than the assault suits. I believe it should still be like that. Logistics suits should revolve around their equipment, and should succeed based on the ability to effectively exploit their equipment.

Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1831	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:55:00 - [31] - Quote Faunher wrote: As a logi, who occasionally slays, I believe we do need a slot reconfiguration. I used to run Min Assault, but it is just paled in comparison with the Min Logis capability to slay. I liked how in closed beta, the logi was generally weaker than the assault suits. I believe it should still be like that. Logistics suits should revolve around their equipment, and should succeed based on the ability to effectively exploit their equipment. Yeah, I remember logis topping the board with negative KDR and being happy I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
mollerz Minja Scouts 2407	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:01:00 - [32] - Quote MY logi fit Sever BPO Exile AR All MLT BPO: 2x shield extenders, 1x armor plate, 1x cardio reg, 1x locus nade, Injector, Repper, Uplink 0isk typically get 5 kills and 5 deaths avg. I also get about 1400+WP and 300K. This is how I fund my knifer suit. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Faunher Ivory Vanguard 141	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:05:00 - [33] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Faunher wrote: As a logi, who occasionally slays, I believe we do need a slot reconfiguration. I used to run Min Assault, but it is just paled in comparison with the Min Logis capability to slay. I liked how in closed beta, the logi was generally weaker than the assault suits. I believe it should still be like that. Logistics suits should revolve around their equipment, and should succeed based on the ability to effectively exploit their equipment. Yeah, I remember logis topping the board with negative KDR and being happy That is how I end most my matches, and I am perfectly content like that. That is one thing that has kept me playing Dust. When I first played, I remember seeing someone with a KD of 3/7 on the top of the leaderboard at the end of a match. Ever since then I was hooked.
Rusty Shallows 1036	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:06:00 - [34] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. snip Dust 514 history should be that reason. Everyone doing competitive play pre-Uprising were in Caldari Assault Frames. Everything else was situational or niche. Slayer verses Support was pretty clearly defined where people running two equipment on Assault didn't even need those less combat effective Minmatar Logistic Frames. The current problem with Logistics making marginally better Slayers stems from the attempted fix. As well as dealing with the other problem where there was only one Frame worth using which was the Caldari Assault Frame. Over buffing and nerfing at the same time, sound familiar? Hint, hint, wink, wink. Looking at the 2013 nerfing trends and it isn't unreasonable to expect CCP to screw this up. A situation where Slayer Assaults are running top everything and Support Logis using middle gear. It wasn't that bad by the end of Chromosome but it works as a generalized comparison. The Frame Type bonuses between Assaults & Logistics is a work of art, the Empire Frame Bonuses for both sets not as much. The anxiety for anyone running Logistics should be is that CCP could nuke their CPU/Grid while leaving the Assaults alone. Thereby leaving one Frame set with better base-stats and fitting options. What really stinks about this is now that Light and Heavy Frames stand to be more viable even if we have a return to the old imbalance between Assaults & Logistics it won't be as noticeable to the community. The "not in a bad way" is the question. I'm fairly sure CCP is going to fail. The question is will it be to the point where real logistics become the new Scout, uncommon or rare. Or like the current arguments about Slayer Logis but reversed. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 27	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:09:00 - [35] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. Yea Me, 50' or 80'. No s..... 30'
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 100	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:10:00 - [36] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. Hey hit me up in corp there are some problems with that fit and I can give you some pointers ..
Rusty Shallows 1036	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:11:00 - [37] - Quote Faunher wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. And this is why nobody runs injectors anymore. Ungrateful peasants. I'd rather lose a million ISK and the match rather than have your dirty needle hurt my precious KDR by one statistically insignificant point. Irrational? Yes. But them is the breaks having a permanent recorded. Blame CCP. I still love your nanites. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1832	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:13:00 - [38] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. Hey hit me up in corp there are some problems with that fit and I can give you some pointers .. Yeah I aint to worried about my lil logi chick TBO, she gets great WP and still kills well. I was going to delete all 30 fittings soon and redesign them around a more upto date skills list, been running my current fit for months I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 89	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:37:00 - [39] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Faunher wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. And this is why nobody runs injectors anymore. Ungrateful peasants. I'd rather lose a million ISK and the match rather than have your dirty needle hurt my precious KDR by one statistically insignificant point. Irrational? Yes. But them is the breaks having a permanent recorded. Blame CCP. I still love your nanites. Yea... that's more of the fact that people run away from me when I'm trying to rep them after reviving them. Also, if your standing in the middle of the open and not running for cover I am not liable to you dying again. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 52	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:34:00 - [40] - Quote You win, all of the logi suits are going to be nerfed and mercs like you can saunter over to the next slayer fit leaving real support logis to deal with the gimped suits (remember Cal logis) or spec into another class.Unless CCP adjusts the fitting to help the support class then there is going to be little incentive to use them. I confess that I do not possess the remarkable ability that you have, but try to learn, have fun, and do my best to help the team I'm on win.Hope to sqaudup with you in the future and maybe pickup some of your talents to help me become better.

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3811	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:38:00 - [41] - Quote i see no equipped armour rep.....do you by chance have level 5 callogi? were there instances where not having the inherent armour rep would have been detrimental to your matches? remove one of those armour plates and do not put anything in the slot. that is how a 1.8 logi will feel. Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1838	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:43:00 - [42] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: i see no equipped armour rep.....do you by chance have level 5 callogi? were there instances where not having the inherent armour rep would have been detrimental to your matches? remove one of those armour plates and do not put anything in the slot. that is how a 1.8 logi will feel. It'll be fine, even with a few more deaths per match, profits there. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3811	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:47:00 - [43] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: i see no equipped armour rep.....do you by chance have level 5 callogi? were there instances where not having the inherent armour rep would have been detrimental to your matches? remove one of those armour plates and do not put anything in the slot. that is how a 1.8 logi will feel. It'll be fine, even with a few more deaths per match, profits there. alright, just asking, i havent run logi in awhile and the fact that my ps3 quit on me means i cant test my theories myself Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1317	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:47:00 - [44] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match. My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK Total: 45,990 ISK I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match. It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties. Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. Sorry but when i saw the 3 Enhanced shield extenders i couldn't focus on anything else in the post. FYI, NEVER fit 2 Enhanced shield extenders. one complex is cheaper all around, it also provides exactly the same hp. Who wants some?
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 884	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:17:00 - [45] - Quote I'm not complaining about 1.8 Right now I run to the equipment my team needs and then my protection 2nd. Killing guy's is actually not in the design I am slightly concerned that in running more rep mods I will cost more cpu/pg than the saving I'll get to equipment (I've never run Gal logi so don't really know the saving) but largely don't care - my rep tools are, generally speaking, getting better. What I'm mostly concerned about is other classes trying to make use of the adjusted equipment. They're gonna need to invest far more SP and sacrifice more fitting for the same effect. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1880	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:01:00 - [46] - Quote Atiim wrote: DUST's worst actors? That belongs to the tankers. Anyways, my main concern with Logistics is the fact that you'll have to have Operation V just for your equipment to actually be worth a damn. Well that, and everyone's going to flock to Matari logistics. Lol okay Infantry wants a vehicle overhaul, and isn't happy with the result. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim


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