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Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1831
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:55:00 -
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Faunher wrote:As a logi, who occasionally slays, I believe we do need a slot reconfiguration. I used to run Min Assault, but it is just paled in comparison with the Min Logis capability to slay.
I liked how in closed beta, the logi was generally weaker than the assault suits. I believe it should still be like that. Logistics suits should revolve around their equipment, and should succeed based on the ability to effectively exploit their equipment.
Yeah, I remember logis topping the board with negative KDR and being happy
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2407
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:01:00 -
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MY logi fit
Sever BPO Exile AR All MLT BPO: 2x shield extenders, 1x armor plate, 1x cardio reg, 1x locus nade, Injector, Repper, Uplink
0isk
typically get 5 kills and 5 deaths avg. I also get about 1400+WP and 300K.
This is how I fund my knifer suit.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
141
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:05:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Faunher wrote:As a logi, who occasionally slays, I believe we do need a slot reconfiguration. I used to run Min Assault, but it is just paled in comparison with the Min Logis capability to slay.
I liked how in closed beta, the logi was generally weaker than the assault suits. I believe it should still be like that. Logistics suits should revolve around their equipment, and should succeed based on the ability to effectively exploit their equipment. Yeah, I remember logis topping the board with negative KDR and being happy That is how I end most my matches, and I am perfectly content like that. That is one thing that has kept me playing Dust. When I first played, I remember seeing someone with a KD of 3/7 on the top of the leaderboard at the end of a match. Ever since then I was hooked. |
Rusty Shallows
1036
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:06:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. snip Dust 514 history should be that reason. Everyone doing competitive play pre-Uprising were in Caldari Assault Frames. Everything else was situational or niche. Slayer verses Support was pretty clearly defined where people running two equipment on Assault didn't even need those less combat effective Minmatar Logistic Frames.
The current problem with Logistics making marginally better Slayers stems from the attempted fix. As well as dealing with the other problem where there was only one Frame worth using which was the Caldari Assault Frame. Over buffing and nerfing at the same time, sound familiar? Hint, hint, wink, wink.
Looking at the 2013 nerfing trends and it isn't unreasonable to expect CCP to screw this up. A situation where Slayer Assaults are running top everything and Support Logis using middle gear. It wasn't that bad by the end of Chromosome but it works as a generalized comparison.
The Frame Type bonuses between Assaults & Logistics is a work of art, the Empire Frame Bonuses for both sets not as much. The anxiety for anyone running Logistics should be is that CCP could nuke their CPU/Grid while leaving the Assaults alone. Thereby leaving one Frame set with better base-stats and fitting options.
What really stinks about this is now that Light and Heavy Frames stand to be more viable even if we have a return to the old imbalance between Assaults & Logistics it won't be as noticeable to the community. The "not in a bad way" is the question. I'm fairly sure CCP is going to fail. The question is will it be to the point where real logistics become the new Scout, uncommon or rare. Or like the current arguments about Slayer Logis but reversed.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Bezimienni...
27
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:09:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. Yea Me, 50' or 80'. No s..... 30' |
Rinzler XVIII
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:10:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match.
My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK
Total: 45,990 ISK
I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match.
It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties.
Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill.
Hey hit me up in corp there are some problems with that fit and I can give you some pointers ..
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Rusty Shallows
1036
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:11:00 -
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Faunher wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. And this is why nobody runs injectors anymore. Ungrateful peasants. I'd rather lose a million ISK and the match rather than have your dirty needle hurt my precious KDR by one statistically insignificant point. Irrational? Yes. But them is the breaks having a permanent recorded. Blame CCP.
I still love your nanites.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1832
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:13:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match.
My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK
Total: 45,990 ISK
I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match.
It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties.
Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. Hey hit me up in corp there are some problems with that fit and I can give you some pointers ..
Yeah I aint to worried about my lil logi chick TBO, she gets great WP and still kills well. I was going to delete all 30 fittings soon and redesign them around a more upto date skills list, been running my current fit for months
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
89
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:37:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Faunher wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Why does no one run injectors anymore... **** injectors and anybody that uses them. And this is why nobody runs injectors anymore. Ungrateful peasants. I'd rather lose a million ISK and the match rather than have your dirty needle hurt my precious KDR by one statistically insignificant point. Irrational? Yes. But them is the breaks having a permanent recorded. Blame CCP. I still love your nanites.
Yea... that's more of the fact that people run away from me when I'm trying to rep them after reviving them. Also, if your standing in the middle of the open and not running for cover I am not liable to you dying again.
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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SteelheadPep
SAM-MIK
52
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:34:00 -
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You win, all of the logi suits are going to be nerfed and mercs like you can saunter over to the next slayer fit leaving real support logis to deal with the gimped suits (remember Cal logis) or spec into another class.Unless CCP adjusts the fitting to help the support class then there is going to be little incentive to use them. I confess that I do not possess the remarkable ability that you have, but try to learn, have fun, and do my best to help the team I'm on win.Hope to sqaudup with you in the future and maybe pickup some of your talents to help me become better. |
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3811
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:38:00 -
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i see no equipped armour rep.....do you by chance have level 5 callogi?
were there instances where not having the inherent armour rep would have been detrimental to your matches?
remove one of those armour plates and do not put anything in the slot.
that is how a 1.8 logi will feel.
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1838
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:43:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:i see no equipped armour rep.....do you by chance have level 5 callogi?
were there instances where not having the inherent armour rep would have been detrimental to your matches?
remove one of those armour plates and do not put anything in the slot.
that is how a 1.8 logi will feel.
It'll be fine, even with a few more deaths per match, profits there.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3811
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:47:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:i see no equipped armour rep.....do you by chance have level 5 callogi?
were there instances where not having the inherent armour rep would have been detrimental to your matches?
remove one of those armour plates and do not put anything in the slot.
that is how a 1.8 logi will feel. It'll be fine, even with a few more deaths per match, profits there. alright, just asking, i havent run logi in awhile and the fact that my ps3 quit on me means i cant test my theories myself
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1317
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:47:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:There is no arguement from any logistics player in the game that could make me believe 1.8 is going to hurt logistics in a bad way. All morning its been all profit, 1 man squad, 11million SP, support logi. Earning an orbital with ease every match.
My suit: Logistics C/1-series: 8,040 ISK 3x Enhanced shield extenders 7,830 ISK 2x Enhanced armor plate 4,830 ISK Rail rifle 1,500 ISK (proficiency 3) M1 Locus Grenade 1,200 ISK BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool 8,070 ISK AllotekStable uplink 10,575 ISK K-2 Nanohive 3,945 ISK
Total: 45,990 ISK
I have been scoring a minumum of 2600 points, 20 kills and average 3-4 deaths a match. Averaging 300k ISK earnings per match.
It is so easy, the class is so broke, and can do everything. Proto heavy....Rail rifle wins, getting hurt? duck into cover annnnnnd full health, throw some uplinks, follow a few fatties.
Hopefully 1.8 makes them hard to use, considering they are in reality a specialist class and should require at least 1oz of skill. Sorry but when i saw the 3 Enhanced shield extenders i couldn't focus on anything else in the post. FYI, NEVER fit 2 Enhanced shield extenders.
one complex is cheaper all around, it also provides exactly the same hp.
Who wants some?
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
884
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:17:00 -
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I'm not complaining about 1.8 Right now I run to the equipment my team needs and then my protection 2nd. Killing guy's is actually not in the design
I am slightly concerned that in running more rep mods I will cost more cpu/pg than the saving I'll get to equipment (I've never run Gal logi so don't really know the saving) but largely don't care - my rep tools are, generally speaking, getting better.
What I'm mostly concerned about is other classes trying to make use of the adjusted equipment. They're gonna need to invest far more SP and sacrifice more fitting for the same effect.
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1880
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Posted - 2014.02.26 01:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DUST's worst actors?
That belongs to the tankers.
Anyways, my main concern with Logistics is the fact that you'll have to have Operation V just for your equipment to actually be worth a damn.
Well that, and everyone's going to flock to Matari logistics. Lol okay
Infantry wants a vehicle overhaul, and isn't happy with the result.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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