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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.26 09:33:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Whut? I've one-shotted plenty of standard suits using a Dren shotgun and no damage mods. I don't even have any points in shotguns at all.
Just be as close as you can and when possible, aim for the head.
First of all having no points in SG operation is rather smart  because the higher your operation skill the less spread your SG has so its basicly more easy to kill someone.
Now to the damage the std SG does exactly 480 damge without damage mods IF all Pellets hit. And to be honest that's barely enough to kill a std suit with points in dropsuitsupgrades.
For instance a fully skilled gallente or caldari suit has 413 ehp without any module. So a single militia plate would be enough to withstand a SG shot to the body.
What the SG IMHO needs is a change in operation skill (mybe move the current prof skill to operation and make the prof skill either the usual 3% damage or make it +1 pellet per level) |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.26 10:42:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:The shotgun is UP... or OP... depending on what day you use it.
You are right the SG is not reliable but even when HD is on your side the SG is hardly OP in its current state with the small effective Range the SG is just a troll weapon (I get better results with knifes) |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.26 10:56:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:Medical Crash wrote:Frost Kitty wrote:Shotguns are fine. If you need tips on "How to Shotgun" feel free to message me in game. =^_^= No. The aiming is NOT fine. Shotguns are NOT fine. They need more damage, and DUST needs faster aiming. ...and less FPS drops, especially in CQC. And a wider FoV. In shotgun range the target merely needs a slight nudge to the side to strafe out of the narrow cone of visibility we have. Add a bit of lag and you don't even know what direction he strafed in...
CCP should give SGs the same love they gave HMG because SG'S aren't precision weapons . They are short Range area of denial weapons powerfull, large spread with limited range... |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.27 09:06:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:CCP should give SGs the same love they gave HMG because SG'S aren't precision weapons . They are short Range area of denial weapons powerfull, large spread with limited range... If Shotguns were shown to have no dispersion, then I am sure CCP would fix that bug just as they fixed the HMG once it was finally proven that the HMG had no more dispersion than a Laser Rifle. (I sort of wish they would bring the old HMG back as a Precision HMG as I finally got good with it once I figured out how it worked.) However, aside from some hit detection issues, it appears that Shotgun dispersion is working as intended.
Maybe dispersion is working as intended but the current implementation is stupid, the SG does not hit everything in the circle you need to be dead on target to get a hit. And to be honest the operation skill (spread reduction ) makes things worse.
The SG has so many flaws:
- a skill tree that does not benefit the SG
- unreliable HD (ok this is true for most singleshot weapons)
- rather low alpha (for a SG)
- ridiculous optimal range |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:23:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Scout Registry wrote:
Jolly's also a beast with a Rail Rifle.
Good players are good players.
"Look at so-and-so" isn't a measure of balance.
Which means you need skill to be good with a shotgun, not the shotgun be good for you.
This rather means good players can make crap weapons work...but at the same time they will be even better with a good weapon. That someone get kills with a SG doesn't mean the weapon is fine. I get kills with the laser and even with the PLC its possible and there are some guys doing great things with the PLC on occasion... |
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