DUST Search - PvP penalty's in other games

Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:

TheD1CK wrote:

Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game
And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity ....

GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs'
Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers
And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools

FiFa 14 - Ultimate team
You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game
(In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap)

Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs
Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered

Feel free to add other suggestions

How would the game tell if someone is farming???

GTA's system is to prevent harassing other players because the game is NOT kill everyone in sight 100% motivated. This game is two teams killing each other so punishing people because they are killing the other team isn't a good idea. Teamkilling on the other hand is something different that can be punished in whatever way seen fit.

In GTA, you don't get punished for killing enemies in a deathmatch too much, Dust shouldn't be the same. It's like telling everyone "that guy is new so if you kill him 3 times in a row, you are punished. He must be allowed to kill you at least once every time you kill him two times, everyone gets kills, everyone gets deaths, no one is allowed high deaths or high kills". Communism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lady Liberty save me from the heathens!

Patriotism! Yeah!

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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 746	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:09:00 - [1] - Quote Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an atomic bomber on my shoulder
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 121	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:19:00 - [2] - Quote As nice as something like this might be... No. I get penalized enough because PSN or Scotty likes ******* with me, I don't need to be losing more than just my suits and such because of internet problems. When the random sign outs no longer exist, this would be awesome, but until then, it's better left not existing. Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 691	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:22:00 - [3] - Quote FIFA and PvP in the same sentence lol Nemo me impune lacessit
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 747	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:29:00 - [4] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: FIFA and PvP in the same sentence lol I don't get your point? There is PvP in FIFA that can be quite competitive Just pointing out the payment deduction if you quit rather than take a trashing Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an atomic bomber on my shoulder
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 87	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:32:00 - [5] - Quote personally, yes. As far as CCP goes, though, no. Ain't gonna happen. They have no interest in giving truly negative repercussions to the stompers, scammers, etc. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 747	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:34:00 - [6] - Quote Yes being disconnected would be a big issue, but hopefully that is resolved SOONtm And if it's your own net connection causing it, well you still kind of deserve it As your bad connection effects others in your games Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an atomic bomber on my shoulder
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 122	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:44:00 - [7] - Quote Trust me, it's not. I've gotten disconnected a number of times by Scotty, and quite a few times just randomly being thrown out of the game. Net still continues to work fine throughout... and then there was that time period over several weeks were my game kept freezing at almost every turn... which turned out to be caused by being in too many chat rooms. Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2058	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:46:00 - [8] - Quote So I get penalised for leaving a match with a full proto squad on the other side? Joy Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Quik Django Nos Nothi 16	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:07:00 - [9] - Quote It won't happen. CCP loves the meta and will never penalise anyone for stomping, especially when you have no control over who you're up against and matchmaking is non-existent. As for leaving matches - I'm sure many people would rather not play than be forced to wait out a 20 minute game of being redlined... there goes your player base. Django Quik's alt if you hadn't figured that one out!
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 763	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:14:00 - [10] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: So I get penalised for leaving a match with a full proto squad on the other side? Joy Why should an experienced player drop out in that situation?? Leaving some fresh MLT fits ripe for farming ..... Shame on you Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an Atomic Bomber on my shoulder

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 763	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:17:00 - [11] - Quote I completely forgot what playerbase I am dealing with Dust Bunnies, hop on the bandwagon quick as lightning And sure as hell hop off before the going gets tough... Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an Atomic Bomber on my shoulder
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 235	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:12:00 - [12] - Quote Quik Django wrote: ...matchmaking is non-existent. I would be happier if matchmaking were non-existent. Right now, Scotty is actively putting stacked corp squads on one side and randoms on the other. If you knew going into a match that, by design, you could get any number of opponents in any combination depending on the queue (or maybe other factors, like location or security status), it'd be pretty cool.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2855	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:16:00 - [13] - Quote Reducing payouts for those who quit? Do noobs who quit everytime they are getting stomped would also he reduced payouts. Templar BPO(375Mil) EVE Pilot I feed off your tears
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 769	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:22:00 - [14] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Reducing payouts for those who quit? So noobs who quit everytime they are getting stomped would also get reduced payouts. Well the new players are usually bull-headed enough to stay... This would only impact the KDR farmers who run away from tough games A fairer solution would be to reduce ISK payments for each quit and then reset the deduction along with SP cap on Wednesday Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an Atomic Bomber on my shoulder
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7530	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:55:00 - [15] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game (In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap) Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions Dark Souls and Demon's Souls never had this and you could farm players in whatever gruesome way you chose....and Dark Souls still 2 years after release has its cult following greater than Dust. You should never be rewarded for losing or doing poorly. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 769	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:02:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dark Souls and Demon's Souls never had this and you could farm players in whatever gruesome way you chose....and Dark Souls still 2 years after release has its cult following greater than Dust. You should never be rewarded for losing or doing poorly. It's not rewarding those doing badly, the payment reduction would affect those Who quit upon joining a battle because they are afraid of doing badly... And yes Dark Souls was gruesome, but after 16 troll invasions in Gankroot Garden You get you **** together and head for Anor Londo .... In Dust players are stuck with the same spammers day in, day out (duna2002) I'd like to see encouragement for staying and blowing him up rather than 'I quit that team is stacked', join next server 'Oh goodie,20/0 v MLT suits I'm a boss' Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an Atomic Bomber on my shoulder
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2060	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:01:00 - [17] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: So I get penalised for leaving a match with a full proto squad on the other side? Joy Why should an experienced player drop out in that situation?? Leaving some fresh MLT fits ripe for farming ..... Shame on you Oh yeah, Ill just go against 6 people in a guarenteed lose, where they come out never having lost a suit. If I had a team with me, I'd make a go of it, get stuck in to a fair fight, but dropping out of a one sided battle? I shouldn't be penalised for leaving, I should be overly rewarded for slogging it out. Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 285	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:14:00 - [18] - Quote I think it' a better option to reward those who tough it out. Risk vs reward. You already losse your pay when you quit. And yeah when it's proto stomp after proto stomp and I'm solo I leave. Being punished for finally. Showing some sense does not sound like much fun. my name is boba and im a hoarder.
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 363	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:28:00 - [19] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game (In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap) Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions How would the game tell if someone is farming??? GTA's system is to prevent harassing other players because the game is NOT kill everyone in sight 100% motivated. This game is two teams killing each other so punishing people because they are killing the other team isn't a good idea. Teamkilling on the other hand is something different that can be punished in whatever way seen fit. In GTA, you don't get punished for killing enemies in a deathmatch too much, Dust shouldn't be the same. It's like telling everyone "that guy is new so if you kill him 3 times in a row, you are punished. He must be allowed to kill you at least once every time you kill him two times, everyone gets kills, everyone gets deaths, no one is allowed high deaths or high kills". Communism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lady Liberty save me from the heathens! Patriotism! Yeah! CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 414	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:40:00 - [20] - Quote I got a 2-day bad from public servers. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.

ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command 998	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:42:00 - [21] - Quote The GTA:V multiplayer penalty system is absolutely atrocious. AVERT YOUR EYES!
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 176	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:55:00 - [22] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game (In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap) Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions How would the game tell if someone is farming??? GTA's system is to prevent harassing other players because the game is NOT kill everyone in sight 100% motivated. This game is two teams killing each other so punishing people because they are killing the other team isn't a good idea. Teamkilling on the other hand is something different that can be punished in whatever way seen fit. In GTA, you don't get punished for killing enemies in a deathmatch too much, Dust shouldn't be the same. It's like telling everyone "that guy is new so if you kill him 3 times in a row, you are punished. He must be allowed to kill you at least once every time you kill him two times, everyone gets kills, everyone gets deaths, no one is allowed high deaths or high kills". Communism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lady Liberty save me from the heathens! Patriotism! Yeah! THOSE DAMN COMMIES COMIN FO US LOAD THE GUNS 'murica **** yeah Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 777	Posted - 2014.02.26 11:47:00 - [23] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: I got a 2-day bad from public servers. Really, thanks for spellcheck, you'l regret it when I stick my Nova Knives up your *** Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an Atomic Bomber on my shoulder
ALT2 acc 119	Posted - 2014.02.26 12:09:00 - [24] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: So I get penalised for leaving a match with a full proto squad on the other side? Joy have an mcc party Banned until the 10th Reason: I said "feg" I lol'd so dammed hard, it's not even funny, oh wait, yes it is.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1777	Posted - 2014.02.26 12:11:00 - [25] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game (In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap) Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions Please define. Am I "farming noobs" if I stand at a red CRU shooting the dumbasses who are still spawning on it despite the fact that I've been there killing them as they spawn? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 179	Posted - 2014.02.26 14:41:00 - [26] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game (In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap) Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions Please define. Am I "farming noobs" if I stand at a red CRU shooting the dumbasses who are still spawning on it despite the fact that I've been there killing them as they spawn? i love this tactic whether used by me or against and loe it even more when i get QQ mail Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1778	Posted - 2014.02.26 15:12:00 - [27] - Quote Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game (In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap) Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions Please define. Am I "farming noobs" if I stand at a red CRU shooting the dumbasses who are still spawning on it despite the fact that I've been there killing them as they spawn? i love this tactic whether used by me or against and loe it even more when i get QQ mail I still think it is funny when I get reviled as some mean, evil spawncamper. Yes, all of the evils in the world and I am evil for standing by a red spawn point and purging idiocy from the reddot genepool. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 182	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:29:00 - [28] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Dust514 has no system to reward players who want to enjoy the game And punish those who farm noobs at any opportunity .... GTA V has an epic feature 'dunce severs' Guys who are griefing others get a 2-day bad from public servers And are sent to a dunce server to join all the like-minded fools FiFa 14 - Ultimate team You receive coins per match, the amount is lowered everytime you quit a game (In Dust this could be reset along with SP cap) Something similar would help put some sense into Dust mercs Especially the guys who stomp on opportunity, but quit when endangered Feel free to add other suggestions Please define. Am I "farming noobs" if I stand at a red CRU shooting the dumbasses who are still spawning on it despite the fact that I've been there killing them as they spawn? i love this tactic whether used by me or against and loe it even more when i get QQ mail I still think it is funny when I get reviled as some mean, evil spawncamper. Yes, all of the evils in the world and I am evil for standing by a red spawn point and purging idiocy from the reddot genepool. DARWINISM !!!! Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 780	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:39:00 - [29] - Quote I made a suggestion, also asked for other input and suggestions... I haven't received much of either so I am going to leave this thread, to the Trolls that have infested it ... thanks... Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks And I would have an Atomic Bomber on my shoulder
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 183	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:53:00 - [30] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: I made a suggestion, also asked for other input and suggestions... I haven't received much of either so I am going to leave this thread, to the Trolls that have infested it ... thanks... you are welcome Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1782	Posted - 2014.02.26 22:48:00 - [31] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: I made a suggestion, also asked for other input and suggestions... I haven't received much of either so I am going to leave this thread, to the Trolls that have infested it ... thanks... I simply asked an honest question. In response to your OP, I think dunce servers is a dunce of an idea (for reasons pointed out above, namely PvP is the point here). I also think the coins idea is easily translated to LP. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta


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