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Royalgiedro
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Posted - 2014.02.26 04:13:00 -
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lithkul devant wrote:As the title states I would like the officer sniper rifle banned from pub matches, this would not include Factional matches or PC battles, The reasons I would like this gun banned for the time being will now be listed.
1. Can be used in areas where no one can kill them, such as behind the red line on top of a mountain without using the same weapon or the proto version, which is a heavy inbalance. (Same arguement about rail tanks, but that's for another person to argue. (To counter the sniper in the red zone, the sniper in question must expose himself to the middle of the map typically which also means a possible death, where as the red line sniper with the officer weapon does not have this disadvantage)
2. This weapon can 1 hit kill many of the suits in the game and again their is no recourse unless you are using the proto or officer weapon in return.
3. Scanning can not adequetly locate the sniper (max scanning range goes up to roughly 100m officer sniper rifles easily out range this), especially if the sniper is behind the red line, which makes locating a sniper beyond reasonably difficult.
4. Charged Sniper Rifles have a high and low to the damage they deliver, the officer version does not it is pure damage at the high end. It will 1 shot kill most the suits in the game including many of the advanced level suits, which is beyond what a new player should be expected to have.
5. People just starting the game are not going to understand why they are just dead in 1 shot constantly.
6. No other officer weapon can kill with such impunity as the officer sniper rifle can. Even the officer forge or plasma cannon you have to least be in the match area on most maps in order to be effective, the officer sniper rifle does not have this limitation. (Also try hitting an infintry man with a forge gun from 300m-400m away if you can do it consistently awesome for you I bow to your godly shots)
I understand that officer weapons are very hard to get, but this gun is in short over powered and game breaking, no other officer weapon can do what it does as effectively, I am not asking that sniper rifles be removed from the game or from any game mode, what my request is that 1 gun be banned from the mode that the most new players enter. An arguement could be made that no officer weapons should be allowed within pub matches, that at the earliest they should be allowed in factional warfare, but I am not asking for that, just that the worst offender be removed or at least restricted in some format. I hope this request is considered and not flammed by every sniper who abuses this weapon in pub matches.
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Royalgiedro
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Posted - 2014.02.26 04:19:00 -
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lithkul devant wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:lithkul devant wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:hahahahaha no.
adapt.
the sniper is localized to one region of the map (albeit usually the redline). you (as infantry) are not.
whats stopping you from counter sniping? whats so hard about avoiding the sniper after they kill you once?
the reason why thale's one shot things is because people stack 3-4 complex dmg mods on one. jacking up its damage well into the 400's....accompanied with a headshot....thats an insta kill.
so: always be moving. as soon as you hear a sniper shot hit near you, run, jump and move in the most unorthodox fashion to cover.
all this coming from a sniper. Obviously comming from a sniper, the reason your arguement sucks was already pointed out in several of my points which you did not bother to even read. Let me re-list them for your lazy ass. 1. To counter snipe in return you must risk being in a compromised position, aka someone with a Rail Rifle or something could kill you, the one in the red zone can not have someone with a RR kill them because they are out of range. 2. To be able to hit someone with the officer weapon sniper rifle in the red zone you need a proto or officer lvl sniper rifle, no other weapon will do. 3. It does not take a headshot for the officer lvl weapon to kill someone. 1. i do it all the time. become proficient with sidearms. avoid open spaces. be smart about counter sniping. dont be one of the hundreds of dumb@$$aults that dont think (although judging byb your response im certain you are) 2. no you dont. you are trying to hit them from to far then. you are in their optimal if you need a proto sniper. make a redline run if needed (last time i checked, a scout with a shotty and REs is pretty good at removing redline snieprs for <10k isk) i have killed plenty of redline snipers using nothing but an adv NT-511 sniper. (little hint: snipers dont look up) 3. i said COUPLED WITH A HEADSHOT its an insta kill. if you are being one shotted then thats you rfault for not playing smart. mlt suits and basic sutis with little to no tank are a snipers heaven. try and avoid long runs through open field. stick to cover (RUN ERRADICALLY) Okay....I think somewhere you lost the point of my post, the reason why I am asking for this item to be considered for "PUBS ONLY" is for the new players, I want to keep the officer sniper rifles in Fac Wars and PC, because these modes are for the more experienced players, people who actually know what they are doing. To be able to even get to some of the redline snipers you must be willing to use and sacrifice a dropship, as often times they can be more then 100m behind the redline and up on top of a mountain. This gives them more then 300m of kill zone within the general feild of gameplay.
they get hunted in factional. |
Royalgiedro
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Posted - 2014.02.26 07:27:00 -
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Meee One wrote:True Adamance wrote:Meee One wrote:+1
Snipers are one of the most unreasonable groups in dust,and refuse to give up an inch to save a mile in dust. They even have the nerve to request a buff to their already OP weapon. When have sniper rifles been OP? There's a significant difference between OP and simply annoying. Any weapon with the ability to OHK (one hit kill) is OP. And thales can do it at 0 risk to the user. You are a perfect example of an unreasonable sniper.
Guys, on the forums everything but flaylock pistols since 1.7 has been labeled OP by someone. It all depends on how you use them. Anyways the TTK in this game is like COD now with many weapons. Boundless combat rifles, Kaalakiota Rail Rifles, Vizium Scrambler rifle, they are all super OP yet you're complaining about the sniper? You can hide from the sniper. You can't hide from the Boundless combat rifle user with a proto scanner who will kill your 900 HP in 2seconds flat. |
Royalgiedro
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Posted - 2014.02.26 07:29:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Meee One wrote:True Adamance wrote:Meee One wrote:+1
Snipers are one of the most unreasonable groups in dust,and refuse to give up an inch to save a mile in dust. They even have the nerve to request a buff to their already OP weapon. When have sniper rifles been OP? There's a significant difference between OP and simply annoying. Any weapon with the ability to OHK (one hit kill) is OP. And thales can do it at 0 risk to the user. You are a perfect example of an unreasonable sniper. Lol. That's perhaps the silliest definition of OP I have ever heard. BTW, Snipers in Dust have never been OP, nor are they now, even with a Thale's.
True, especially since Thales only can OHK in the body against militia suit level of health. |
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