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Fire of Prometheus
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:33:00 -
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hahahahaha no.
adapt.
the sniper is localized to one region of the map (albeit usually the redline). you (as infantry) are not.
whats stopping you from counter sniping? whats so hard about avoiding the sniper after they kill you once?
the reason why thale's one shot things is because people stack 3-4 complex dmg mods on one. jacking up its damage well into the 400's....accompanied with a headshot....thats an insta kill.
so: always be moving. as soon as you hear a sniper shot hit near you, run, jump and move in the most unorthodox fashion to cover.
all this coming from a sniper.
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:05:00 -
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lithkul devant wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:hahahahaha no.
adapt.
the sniper is localized to one region of the map (albeit usually the redline). you (as infantry) are not.
whats stopping you from counter sniping? whats so hard about avoiding the sniper after they kill you once?
the reason why thale's one shot things is because people stack 3-4 complex dmg mods on one. jacking up its damage well into the 400's....accompanied with a headshot....thats an insta kill.
so: always be moving. as soon as you hear a sniper shot hit near you, run, jump and move in the most unorthodox fashion to cover.
all this coming from a sniper. Obviously comming from a sniper, the reason your arguement sucks was already pointed out in several of my points which you did not bother to even read. Let me re-list them for your lazy ass. 1. To counter snipe in return you must risk being in a compromised position, aka someone with a Rail Rifle or something could kill you, the one in the red zone can not have someone with a RR kill them because they are out of range. 2. To be able to hit someone with the officer weapon sniper rifle in the red zone you need a proto or officer lvl sniper rifle, no other weapon will do. 3. It does not take a headshot for the officer lvl weapon to kill someone.
1. i do it all the time. become proficient with sidearms. avoid open spaces. be smart about counter sniping. dont be one of the hundreds of dumb@$$aults that dont think (although judging byb your response im certain you are)
2. no you dont. you are trying to hit them from to far then. you are in their optimal if you need a proto sniper. make a redline run if needed (last time i checked, a scout with a shotty and REs is pretty good at removing redline snieprs for <10k isk) i have killed plenty of redline snipers using nothing but an adv NT-511 sniper. (little hint: snipers dont look up)
3. i said COUPLED WITH A HEADSHOT its an insta kill. if you are being one shotted then thats you rfault for not playing smart. mlt suits and basic sutis with little to no tank are a snipers heaven. try and avoid long runs through open field. stick to cover (RUN ERRADICALLY)
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:23:00 -
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i get it. its unfare to new players.
but thats part of new eden. you get fed to the wolves and just because they have a better gun, doesnt mean you cant beat them. you dont need a dropship to kill a redline sniper. get on top of a tower. go get into an LAV and speed into the redline. use a scout suit (fast and sneaky)
if you kill a thale's sniper during a match. that sniper could potentially end up as salvage for you or one of your team mates. so essentially, what goes around comes around.
if you are using a scanner to kill a redline sniper. you have already alerted them of your presence. yo umust be sneaky to kill one.
heck, use a heavy frame to counter snipe if thats what you need.
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:34:00 -
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lithkul devant wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:i get it. its unfare to new players.
but thats part of new eden. you get fed to the wolves and just because they have a better gun, doesnt mean you cant beat them. you dont need a dropship to kill a redline sniper. get on top of a tower. go get into an LAV and speed into the redline. use a scout suit (fast and sneaky)
if you kill a thale's sniper during a match. that sniper could potentially end up as salvage for you or one of your team mates. so essentially, what goes around comes around.
if you are using a scanner to kill a redline sniper. you have already alerted them of your presence. yo umust be sneaky to kill one.
heck, use a heavy frame to counter snipe if thats what you need. You don't always need a dropship to do it, but often times you do, depending upon the map, I could personally show you maps where the only option is to use a dropship. I also am not wanting to eliminate the whole fed to the wolves thing as I want the proto sniper rifles still in pubs, I am just wanting the most powerful of the sniper rifles out which just blast away people in militias and can literally steer the entire match just like how tanks have now gotten to high and mighty (different topic all together and different issues) but just saying it would be like having a Thale during training academy when most of you started pointed at your head constantly, since their is basically no academy now.
1 thales cannot win a match. in fact, 16 thales cannot win a match.
you are correct, some maps it is ideal to use a dropship to enter the redline and kill the sniper, however, there infinite ways to kill a redline sniper.
with that being said, i suggest that we properly fix mathchmaking, grow the player base and then we will see how dominant these snieprs are. i ahvent pulled out a sniper in awhile tbh, i run commando with rr and ar or ScR and LR. if needed, ill tossa sniper on to counter snipe but other wise, the sniper is a very niche weapon.
dont look at it like the other team has a thales, look at it like they are down a player. the sniper cant stop multiple hacks simultaneously.
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.02.26 02:45:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:...Wall 'O Text...
1 thales cannot win a match. in fact, 16 thales cannot win a match.
you are correct, some maps it is ideal to use a dropship to enter the redline and kill the sniper, however, there infinite ways to kill a redline sniper. Yes, or even just spawn in with a Militia Snipe Rifle to take that Thales. Fire of Prometheus wrote:
with that being said, i suggest that we properly fix mathchmaking, grow the player base and then we will see how dominant these snieprs are. i ahvent pulled out a sniper in awhile tbh, i run commando with rr and ar or ScR and LR. if needed, ill tossa sniper on to counter snipe but other wise, the sniper is a very niche weapon.
First off, for matchmaking to be effective at all you need to actually have a player base to start with. The sniper rifle always has a place on the battlefield and can be a strong force multiplier by weakening the enemy forces by taking their shields, and by knocking them out before they get to your squad, blam one less enemy shooting your bros. They can also provide a source of intel that the scanner doesn't provide for you, voice reports of enemy movements. This is a valuable role and one that needs to be preserved. Fire of Prometheus wrote:
dont look at it like the other team has a thales, look at it like they are down a player. the sniper cant stop multiple hacks simultaneously.
The player that isn't killed isn't taking clones from the pool allowing you to push harder, weakening your enemies and causing fear in individuals like the OP of the thread. That player also has the task of pouring buckets of tears into the well so we can all feast on them, keep up the good work snipers.
not sure if youre with me or agaisnnt me but just to clarify, snipers are important (for the most part) and i DONT want thales banned from pubs (ive only used 1 once....on my proto commando for lolz)
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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